Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[TDenverFan]

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Pffft....Harvard vs. Yale. Now that is a rivalry. The rest of these are upstarts from the 20th century.

Lehigh-Lafayette (2 Local FCS Schools) has a few years on even Harvard-Yale (Or any other D1 Rivalry, for that matter).

But I digress.

How long do you think it will be before Baylor caves?

[Perfect Zero]

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I don't get the "state pride" thing when it comes to these games. The University of Texas at Austin is about as Texan as a Mercedes driving squash player. Anytime Texas loses, it's a good day for the State.

I wonder how much this "hate" thing will matter if Oklahoma goes to the PAC. Stoops just said that it would probably affect the game, and more conference games means less time to beat up on the Sam Houston State's of the world. Heck, but the end of this whole thing Texas might have to rely on "rivalries" such as Texas Tech and Baylor.

In any case, superconferences are coming. Do I want them? Hell no; I've been trying to fight them for years. However, the whole tradition thing just doesn't matter at all. Oblong conferences, blue fields, Nike-type "OMG IT'S FREAKING HI-LIGHER YELLOW THAT'S SO AWESOME!!!1!1!!!1" jerseys, you name it and some school has just about trashed it. When you get to these superconferences, you might as well go to playoff games because there isn't going to be much out of conference. Same seven teams every year, "league within a league" is going to push it to that.

Somebody said that it's almost minor league football. I'd say that we're almost there. If you start paying the players like people want to do, you might as well call it that. College football as we want it died a while ago. Welcome to the world that has been created in its place.

[Jr.]

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Good read on the possible future with superconferences. The article makes some interesting points.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1103732.html

[Perfect Zero]

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Good read on the possible future with superconferences. The article makes some interesting points.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1103732.html

Eh... the problem with this article is that it writes itself from the fan's perspective. Yeah, it would be great to see Florida vs. Wisconsin or Oklahoma vs. Ohio State in September, but that isn't going to happen. Instead, what you are going to see are nine to ten in-conference games and three to two (yeah, two) out of conference games against the D1-AA or lower D1 schools. In fact, it makes it worse for rivalries because teams are going to want to go for undefeated records so that they have a chance for the national championship. Forget about Oklahoma vs. Texas; let's get ramped up for some more Oklahoma vs. Tulsa!

With 64 elite teams, there will clearly be no disguising where the power of FBS football resides. Moreover, these Superconferences will begin playing a de facto playoff of their own. The two divisions of eight teams will square off throughout the season, after which two teams will emerge at the top. These eight teams will square off in four conference championship games, crowning one victor each (as they have in the past for the SEC/ACC).

Are you kidding me? There is no way in hell any of these new superconferences are going to go for that. You're going to get the same excuses as before. "Our kids have to study for exams," "Our fanbase can't travel to all of these places to all parts of the country," "Think of the physical and mental injury risk!" All you are going to get with superconerences are four contenders and hurt feelings. Welcome to the same thing that we have today.

All the superconferences do is create two seven to eight team conferences and adds in some teams from the other side from time to time. Same problems as before with the postseason.

[Herbsinator]

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Oklahoma State Legislature will not let those two schools split up much like Kansas St and Kansas split up. It would be devastating to Okie Lite to get dropped as they would most likely not end up in a one of the big conferences if that occurred. Why do you think Baylor got into the Big 12, the state legislature got involved and ensured that Baylor got in. Not because it was a good fit or they were a rival for Texas.

Remember how everyone said the Texas legislature wouldn't let aTm and Texas to spilt up?

[Sportsbuck]

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The Big Ten just concluded a call with representatives from the University of Oklahoma Board of Regents, initiated by Oklahoma.

The call confirmed that the Big Ten would NOT extend an invitation to Oklahoma to join the conference.

From Northwestern's rivals guys.

[lonewolf371]

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From Northwestern's rivals guys.

Hopefully that will put to rest any rumors of the B1G excessively reaching out of its geographic area.

[Jr.]

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Eh... the problem with this article is that it writes itself from the fan's perspective. Yeah, it would be great to see Florida vs. Wisconsin or Oklahoma vs. Ohio State in September, but that isn't going to happen. Instead, what you are going to see are nine to ten in-conference games and three to two (yeah, two) out of conference games against the D1-AA or lower D1 schools. In fact, it makes it worse for rivalries because teams are going to want to go for undefeated records so that they have a chance for the national championship. Forget about Oklahoma vs. Texas; let's get ramped up for some more Oklahoma vs. Tulsa!

If superconferences happen, then a playoff is on the way. There's way too much money to be had for the schools with a playoff.

If that happens, I agree with that article that the top 2 teams from each conference would get a playoff spot, therefore losses in OOC games wouldn't be detrimental. Win your conference, you get a shot at the title.

I think his take makes a lot of sense as a fan and for the schools involved. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I agree that this is where college football is headed.

[Tovarich]

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Going back to the BYU tweet-that account has zero to do with the school-you can find BYU's real accounts on their website, that one is not real. I think it's just run by fans.

That said, it could be legit, but that's not the school saying it.

Big 10 probably said no to Oklahoma because they said Oklahoma State has to come too, and it seems a lot like the PAC is the only conference willing to take Oklahoma State too. The SEC could too, but I guess. It seems more and more likely to me that the Big 12 stays together-not because of Baylor holding anyone hostage though-Baylor is reminding me of the Family Guy episode when Quagmire marries Peter's maid. Baylor is the maid, holding a knife to itself, threatening to kill itself if Oklahoma won't promise to marry them, and then promise never to divorce them again. I can see BYU or Houston joining to replace TAMU, and then maybe West Virginia going as 14 in the SEC, and life going on as is. Everyone took Oklahoma's comments of exploring their options as they were leaving-I think they may decide not to do this. But rumors will continue every offseason until the other 9 stand up to Texas. And Texas concedes. I'm holding my breath.

I'd say the Big 10 does nothing until Notre Dame is coming aboard-then they could go any direction, Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, Missouri, Texas, Rutgers, Pitt, Syracuse, Maryland-who knows.

[lonewolf371]

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I think the Big Ten said no to Oklahoma because they really, honestly, don't care for Oklahoma. It's not that complicated when you think about it.

[Redacted01]

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OU and Okie State are not AAU members. That is a huge in factor in Big Ten membership, except if Notre Dame were to ever join. Nebraska just lost theirs but they were members at the time of agreeing to join. Now they will probably have to ditch that if they go to 16, but for now, they can be as selective as they want. The Big Ten is in the same position as the SEC; you have 12, you have a good 12, there is no reason to add unless something great is ripe for the taking, and nothing in the Big 12 is ripe with the big baby bears, ISU, etc... holding up the inevitable.

[lonewolf371]

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Even though they're not AAU, I don't think anyone is worried about what Notre Dame would add academically. Oklahoma is in that area where AAU membership would really help their case. I think the worse thing though is just how far away and decidedly non-Midwest they are.

[fpac]

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From Northwestern's rivals guys.

Pretty sure this didn't happen as people here are saying OU's next regent meeting isn't until September 19 and I would assume this would be all over the news here.

Either way there's about 0% chance OU goes to the Big 10.

[Perfect Zero]

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If superconferences happen, then a playoff is on the way. There's way too much money to be had for the schools with a playoff.

If that happens, I agree with that article that the top 2 teams from each conference would get a playoff spot, therefore losses in OOC games wouldn't be detrimental. Win your conference, you get a shot at the title.

I think his take makes a lot of sense as a fan and for the schools involved. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I agree that this is where college football is headed.

I've heard that there's "too much money on the table" for college football playoffs for years now. If there really was that much money, it would be in by now. No conference feels like it's obligated to go forth with a playoff. It's hard enough to get your fanbase to go to one game out of the way at a neutral site. It's going to be even harder if you multiply that by two or three.

And even if somehow the university presidents do a 180 and get a playoff, it's the same problem that you have now. What if the two top teams from the SEC are from the West? Does a 11-1 Louisiana State team stay home while a 9-3 South Carolina team gets a pass? How can you account for all of the universities that may not be in a superconference? Even if an out of conference game was not that important, you'll still try to pad your stats to get fans into the stadium for a guaranteed win and for a warm-up game. Superconferences will act as the playoff itself. The more things change, the more they will stay the same.

[Cardot]

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It's hard enough to get your fanbase to go to one game out of the way at a neutral site. It's going to be even harder if you multiply that by two or three.

Playoff rounds should be on campus.

Even if an out of conference game was not that important, you'll still try to pad your stats to get fans into the stadium for a guaranteed win and for a warm-up game.

If you want fans, I would think that a matchup against a top ranked team from another confernce would be a better draw than a cupcake. And better yet, since it won't count against your conference record, it won't hurt your NC aspirations even if you lose.