2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

[Jr.]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

These talking bag Tostitos commercials are terrible

[bkrich83]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

I agree.

With that said, the second best team in the Pac-12 should have beaten our champion. I think it's hilarious that some of these morons are ripping the Pac-12.

Oregon and Stanford are top 5 teams and the third best team (USC) didn't even go bowling this season. I would say the top 3 of the Pac-12 is as good as anyone. Then there is a drop off.

Why is the SEC so great when they are a two team league? I mean, Bama has only beaten three teams with a winning record all year.

There is a reason that the Pac-12 gave up some points this bowl season. They actually played teams with offenses.

Some of you people kill me.

Pac 12 had 3 Legit Top 10 teams, conference was not quite as bad as some make them out to be.

[untrugby]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

In OT after a layoff and some short fields. . They also held OSU to 150 yards below their season average, and 13 rush yards on 15 attempts.

not just one game, the avergae given up for all 7 pac 12 bowl games was 38 points per game. no one is saying the pac 12 doesnt have good offenses. It just seems they have entirely given up on playing defense

[BigDofBA]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Faced a couple of pretty good offenses today. Should have gone 2-0 in BCS games today. But I thought both Pac 12 teams represented the conference well.

Agreed. My opinion of the Pac-12 went up after watching these BCS games.

Stanford is a damn good team and they had just as good of an argument as OSU did for playing for it all imo.

It's been proven you don't have to even win your conference and you can lose at home to the #1 team in your league and still play for it. Why not give Stanford a shot?

[bad_philanthropy]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Pac 12 had 3 Legit Top 10 teams, conference was not quite as bad as some make them out to be.

Do you think the Pac-12 South was not really as bad as is perceived?

[untrugby]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Ahhh there it is.

Nothing to see here.

i guess making a joke is frowned upon?

[BigDofBA]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

not just one game, the avergae given up for all 7 pac 12 bowl games was 38 points per game. no one is saying the pac 12 doesnt have good offenses. It just seems they have entirely given up on playing defense

Look who the Pac-12 played. They played some of the best offenses in college football.

Oklahoma State
Wisconsin
Baylor

I don't even have to look up stats to know that all of three of those teams are probably top 10 offensively.

Some of those stats are skewed by the Baylor game btw. Stats are overrated. By the same token, I think only one SEC team has scored 30 and that was South Carolina. They scored 30 exactly. So basically those offense suck so it makes their defenses look a lot better. See how stats can be misleading?

If Pac-12 offense suck then we have to say their offenses are awesome.

Stanford 38
Oregon over 40
Washington over 50

[bkrich83]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Do you think the Pac-12 South was not really as bad as is perceived?

Outside of USC it was terrible. Pac 12 South is not the entire conference, and with USC it still contained a legit Top 10 team.

[Ramminyou]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

FYP. </url>

At least you're honest about it.

[bigtxambition]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Freaking IDIOT kicker for Stanford missed an easy cheap shot FG in OT. What a moron! I hope they cut his DUMB ***!

[bkrich83]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Look who the Pac-12 played. They played some of the best offenses in college football.

Oklahoma State
Wisconsin
Baylor

I don't even have to look up stats to know that all of three of those teams are probably top 10 offensively.

Some of those stats are skewed by the Baylor game btw. Stats are overrated. By the same token, I think only one SEC team has scored 30 and that was South Carolina. They scored 30 exactly. So basically those offense suck so it makes their defenses look a lot better. See how stats can be misleading?

If Pac-12 offense suck then we have to say their offenses are awesome.

Stanford 38
Oregon over 40
Washington over 50

Those 3 teams they played were #2, #4 and #14 in total offense in the country.

[Psyblast]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Freaking IDIOT kicker for Stanford missed an easy cheap shot FG in OT. What a moron! I hope they cut his DUMB ***!

For some reason I do not believe this will happen.

[AUChase]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Freaking IDIOT kicker for Stanford missed an easy cheap shot FG in OT. What a moron! I hope they cut his DUMB ***!

I'm sure you could suit up and knock it down...

[1GATOR FAN]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Lol and here we go again let it go guys it's done decided... Bama got in that's it.

Guess the past 5 SEC champions carried Bama and the voters into to picking them. Both were deserving but life goes on...

[Jr.]

Re: 2012 Fiesta Bowl, #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs. #4 Stanford (11-1)

Freaking IDIOT kicker for Stanford missed an easy cheap shot FG in OT. What a moron! I hope they cut his DUMB ***!

Considering he attends Stanford University, I'd say he's probably really smart.

Kicking ability has nothing to do with intellect