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  • Scott812313
    MVP
    • Jun 2009
    • 1877

    #31
    Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

    Lemme guess though...You've "always" been a Steeler's fan im sure?
    "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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    • CWSapp757
      SimWorld Draft Class Guru
      • Aug 2008
      • 4651

      #32
      Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

      Since the day I was born Great One. Not by choice, but because my father is from Pittsburgh so he kinda pushed the whole Steeler thing on me. Of course I'm sure you won't believe me and continue to call me "bandwagon boy", but I wanted to share that information anyway.
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      • CWSapp757
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        • Aug 2008
        • 4651

        #33
        Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

        But I try not to even be an obsessed fan the way I used to. Trying to practice being more of a casual fan.
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        • Scott812313
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 1877

          #34
          Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

          Fair enough. I don't see why i am being attacked when I just made a simple statement about the lack of AI on varsity settings. I apologize for the insult, as i was reacting to everyone "ganging" up on me for no reason. I also never claimed to be the best player, I admitted to losing multiple times to the cpu. But i never did lose to them last year, which is why this game is much more enjoyable this year on the Heisman level.
          "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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          • CWSapp757
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            • Aug 2008
            • 4651

            #35
            Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

            I can live with that. I think the comment about only blind people or mentally challenged people playing this on Varsity may have rubbed some the wrong way. Personally, I have no issue with ya. You're probably a better player than me cause I admit that with the right sliders I have been enjoying Varsity as opposed to the AA difficulty I have been playing on for the past few years. I will say that I did try to play on Heisman once and it just felt like the computer was cheating me. That's just my personal opinion though.
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            • Temp GO BLUE
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 14

              #36
              Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

              to the guy who posted this originally: have you ever seen a football game before? what you just described is pretty much the definition of the objective in football, keep your opponent guessing, if you settle in to one thing, MOST of the time the other guy catches on and punishes you. if youve been showing a real life qb one thing over and over, and then suddenly change it up, theres a good chance something good is going to happen for you!!! hell, even brady and manning are somewhat victim to it, manning moreso, but still, THAT IS THE POINT OF THE GAME!!!! LOL

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              • ElroyJetson
                MVP
                • Apr 2007
                • 1860

                #37
                Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                computer has comeback written all over it , im beating a guy online 38-13 he quits this is just starting the 4th quarter, i had my gameplan to conservative and i fumbled 4 straight times and the computer took the lead 41-38 with 13 seconds left , no matter what I did i would fumble the ball i was winning 38-31 with 30 seconds left the computer had 3 timeouts so i went to hand the ball off but somehow the d-end hops the snap sacks me causes a fumble and the line breaks not 1 but 3 tackles to score and take the lead
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                • Dbrentonbuck
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 634

                  #38
                  Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                  Anyone who says there is no kind of come back AI is playing a different game than I am. Every time I go up by a big margin over even a sorry team I can count on 2 things

                  1. My guy will fumble no matter how much I protect the ball. The only way to stop this is to run out of bounds which is the one thing you shouldn't do if you are leading.

                  2. They will have a play where no matter what you do, they will find the endzone by breaking multiple tackles. This can by a WR breaking LB tackles, then CB tackles and finally SS tackle to get in the endzone or a RB breaking the DL, the LB, The CB, and the SS tackles. No matter what you try to do, you cannot tackle them.

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                  • Temp GO BLUE
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 14

                    #39
                    Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                    Originally posted by Temp GO BLUE
                    to the guy who posted this originally: have you ever seen a football game before? what you just described is pretty much the definition of the objective in football, keep your opponent guessing, if you settle in to one thing, MOST of the time the other guy catches on and punishes you. if youve been showing a real life qb one thing over and over, and then suddenly change it up, theres a good chance something good is going to happen for you!!! hell, even brady and manning are somewhat victim to it, manning moreso, but still, THAT IS THE POINT OF THE GAME!!!! LOL
                    to clarify, what the original post said, is what i was yelling about, what he described is just football,strategy, and play calling...what most of you are talking about, i completely agree with, but i usually dont notice the trend start unless i give them some sort of spark on my own--i.e. interception, sacked 3 times in a row, etc..which is somewhat cool considering that momentum plays a bigger roll in college football than the NFL, that being said, it DEF has some issues with what everyone has been talking about with fumbles and broken tackles or what not. just like how in the last 2 minutes of a half, they will always put together some sort of drive no matter what, just have to play around it--like know this and dont give them the ball till there is like only 10-20 secs left

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                    • Temp GO BLUE
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 14

                      #40
                      Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                      Originally posted by Dbrentonbuck
                      Anyone who says there is no kind of come back AI is playing a different game than I am. Every time I go up by a big margin over even a sorry team I can count on 2 things

                      1. My guy will fumble no matter how much I protect the ball. The only way to stop this is to run out of bounds which is the one thing you shouldn't do if you are leading.

                      2. They will have a play where no matter what you do, they will find the endzone by breaking multiple tackles. This can by a WR breaking LB tackles, then CB tackles and finally SS tackle to get in the endzone or a RB breaking the DL, the LB, The CB, and the SS tackles. No matter what you try to do, you cannot tackle them.

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                      a good way to get around this is to let them get down to around the 10 yd line or so, set your zone coverage to aggressive, show blitz everytime to protect against the run, while calling only zone coverages.(especially from the 7d line) from the 10 you can do it with 3 or four down lineman, from the 5 and closer i would only use 4 or 5 dwnlineman for the sake of stopping the run...its not fool proof, but id say it ups your chances of stopping them 60-70 percent, game trying to cheat and everything!!1 lol

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                      • TrevJo
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 785

                        #41
                        Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                        Originally posted by gavejorn
                        There is actually a piece of code programmed in the game that enables the AI to turn up its 'A' game. You can toggle this on or off in Madden '09 in the menu before starting a Franchise. The same code (slightly modified) exists in NCAA Football, but can't be turned off.
                        I call BS.

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                        • hellbent
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 93

                          #42
                          Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                          Originally posted by Dbrentonbuck
                          Anyone who says there is no kind of come back AI is playing a different game than I am. Every time I go up by a big margin over even a sorry team I can count on 2 things

                          1. My guy will fumble no matter how much I protect the ball. The only way to stop this is to run out of bounds which is the one thing you shouldn't do if you are leading.

                          2. They will have a play where no matter what you do, they will find the endzone by breaking multiple tackles. This can by a WR breaking LB tackles, then CB tackles and finally SS tackle to get in the endzone or a RB breaking the DL, the LB, The CB, and the SS tackles. No matter what you try to do, you cannot tackle them.

                          If you have never seen this, then I would like to trade copies with you
                          I've seen both and have found that with #1 changing your gameplan to conservative helps a ton. I also avoid giving the ball to my fullback as for some reason EA has thought for years that all fullbacks fumble like Alstott or Bettis did early in their careers. QBs also tend to fumble more frequently, too, so I avoid running with them if possible when clinging to a lead.

                          #2 has been in every challenging football game I've ever played, but the better games don't have it happen every game. So far, it happens about one in 4 games to me on average, and never in the 4th quarter. Maybe I've been lucky so far.

                          I don't think there is necessarily a hard-coded "comeback" code that kicks in, though I am certain there IS momentum (though it is not transparent in the form of a meter anymore) and the CPU calls more "money" plays for them down the stretch when trailing.

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                          • gavejorn
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 29

                            #43
                            Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                            Originally posted by TrevJo
                            I call BS.

                            Ok, don't believe me then. I don't care.

                            I'm just trying to give some hints to you people, but whatever...

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                            • mvandor
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 777

                              #44
                              Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                              I honestly don't know if there is "comeback code" but I would NOT be surprised if there is to try and keep more games competitive.

                              What I do believe is there is overriding individual game code that determines the nature of each game. For example, the CPU seems to predetermine if a game will be a defensive game, a run-fest, a pass-fest, or CPU goin' off on you.

                              If not, each game would play similarly to team/player ratings, you could play a CPU versus CPU matchup 10 times and see a similar contest. But that's never been what occurs.

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                              • bkrich83
                                Has Been
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71582

                                #45
                                Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

                                I have yet to see any hint of comeback code.

                                LOL @ the guy who's pounding his chest for playing Heisman and talking down to people for playing lesser levels. Some people just don't get it.
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