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  • slthree
    MVP
    • Sep 2003
    • 2529

    #1

    If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in "comeback code" Video for you

    There is lots of talk about CPU cheating/comeback code. I play on Varsity and don't have that issue, although I thought I was seeing it unfold before my eyes.

    I was up 24-22 on Miami in game 1 of my FSU dynasty with 2 or 3 minutes to go. Early in the game I kept Miami in check with a lot of different zone looks, sometimes with blitzing.

    However, they started calling different plays and began picking apart my zones. That's how they got it to 24-22. I switched up to man "D" and held them to three straight punts and 1 pick.

    But, on their last drive Miami started getting smart again and changed the playcalling to exploit the man coverage.

    As they were driving for the winning FG or TD, all I could think was: "Man, the AI does come back at will". I felt the game was all but lost. Then, I remembered the advice that I, and many others here, have given to combat this problem. We always tell people to vary the defensive calls.

    So, after having run man "D" for 6-8 plays straight (as Miami marched right down the field) I called for a zone to see if it mattered. See the results for yourselves:

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  • hcopenhagenh
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 423

    #2
    Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

    Nope. Don't think it mattered.

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    • kingkilla56
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2009
      • 19395

      #3
      Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

      Originally posted by hcopenhagenh
      Nope. Don't think it mattered.
      lol agreed.
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      • booker21
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 4928

        #4
        Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

        what a pointless thread.. really.

        It`s the same if i say..
        Ohh you say there is no pass rush!! look!....and i post one of the single Sacks i did on the season.

        Or worst..
        you think the cpu Can`t run the ball!!.. LOOK proof they run perfect.. and i post a Long run from the cpu...
        really really this means nothing.
        English, is not my first language.

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        • TrevJo
          Pro
          • Jul 2007
          • 785

          #5
          Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

          That has nothing to do with cheating or comeback codes whatsoever.

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          • Scott812313
            MVP
            • Jun 2009
            • 1877

            #6
            Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

            Originally posted by slthree
            There is lots of talk about CPU cheating/comeback code. I play on Varsity and don't have that issue, although I thought I was seeing it unfold before my eyes.

            I was up 24-22 on Miami in game 1 of my FSU dynasty with 2 or 3 minutes to go. Early in the game I kept Miami in check with a lot of different zone looks, sometimes with blitzing.

            However, they started calling different plays and began picking apart my zones. That's how they got it to 24-22. I switched up to man "D" and held them to three straight punts and 1 pick.

            But, on their last drive Miami started getting smart again and changed the playcalling to exploit the man coverage.

            As they were driving for the winning FG or TD, all I could think was: "Man, the AI does come back at will". I felt the game was all but lost. Then, I remembered the advice that I, and many others here, have given to combat this problem. We always tell people to vary the defensive calls.

            So, after having run man "D" for 6-8 plays straight (as Miami marched right down the field) I called for a zone to see if it mattered. See the results for yourselves:


            <EMBED src=http://ll-999.ea.com/beta-easports-static/3.2.1.3.4.3/flash/mdMediaPlugin/mediaplayer.swf width=640 height=360 type=application/x-shockwave-flash flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2/ncaa10/328704/991A0001_3_FLV_VIDEO_whg.flv&link=http://beta.easports.com/media/play/video/8040751&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&image =" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent"></EMBED>EA Sports: NCAA Football 10 Video
            To borrow a phrase from "NBA Street", "Turn up your difficulty level playa"!
            "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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            • BA2929
              The Designated Hitter
              • Jul 2008
              • 3342

              #7
              Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

              So, because of one instance in a Varsity level game.... this doesn't exist? That's like everyone on here saying that Ryan Leaf was a terrible NFL QB, then you post a video of him throwing a TD pass and saying he's great.
              "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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              • Scott812313
                MVP
                • Jun 2009
                • 1877

                #8
                Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                I mean, honestly, who plays on Varsity? AA on this year's game is incredibly easy, as was Heisman on last year's. Heisman this year is definitely a challenge if you are using sliders, regardless of what anyone may say to the contrary.
                "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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                • klb835
                  Banned
                  • May 2009
                  • 63

                  #9
                  Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                  Hey guys, I don't know what you all are talking about. Winning the lottery is easy. I don't see why everyone hasn't won by now. Hold on let me go video tape my winning ticket.



                  that will hold you over for now

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                  • slthree
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2529

                    #10
                    Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                    I love the comments, the false bravado, of losers who never played football.

                    I play on Varsity and am having a great time with the game. The point is people complain of cheating and comeback code and how the cpu picks their zones apart.

                    I don't see that on Varsity which is why I play on Varsity.

                    LOL at the guys who feel playing a video game on a high level is an accomplishment.

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                    • klb835
                      Banned
                      • May 2009
                      • 63

                      #11
                      Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                      Lol at the guy that plays on varsity and INT's the computer one time. And claims he's the smartest alive. You did it buddy!!! Can we go on espn for a 5 minute interview on how you disabled the computer comebacks?? Oh you intercepted him once!!!!!!! nevermind maybe next time

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                      • LionsFanNJ
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 9464

                        #12
                        Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                        lol @ the big macho heisman or bust guys lol.
                        HELLO BROOKYLN.
                        All Black Everything

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                        • Scott812313
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1877

                          #13
                          Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                          Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
                          lol @ the big macho heisman or bust guys lol.
                          lol @ the guy's who play anything other than Heisman and aren't:

                          1. Blind
                          2. 8 years old
                          3. Mentally "challenged"
                          "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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                          • gavejorn
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 29

                            #14
                            Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                            There is actually a piece of code programmed in the game that enables the AI to turn up its 'A' game. You can toggle this on or off in Madden '09 in the menu before starting a Franchise. The same code (slightly modified) exists in NCAA Football, but can't be turned off.

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                            • BA2929
                              The Designated Hitter
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3342

                              #15
                              Re: If you think the CPU cheats. If you believe in &quot;comeback code&quot; Video for you

                              Originally posted by slthree
                              I love the comments, the false bravado, of losers who never played football.

                              I play on Varsity and am having a great time with the game. The point is people complain of cheating and comeback code and how the cpu picks their zones apart.

                              I don't see that on Varsity which is why I play on Varsity.

                              LOL at the guys who feel playing a video game on a high level is an accomplishment.
                              How do you know people haven't played football because of a post on a message board? I didn't know we had Miss Cleo in our midsts. - You don't see it on Varsity because it's the 2nd easiest level on the game. The CPU shouldn't have to resort to cheats or comebacks because the user shouldn't have the skill to get up by enough on Varsity. However, the CPU does on AA and Heisman..... to make it more difficult. Playing on a higher difficulty isn't an accomplishment as much as it's a fun factor for players. You have fun on Varsity, they have fun on Heisman. But please don't come on here with your INT videos trying to make a point when there is no point to be made. The cpu cheats and has amazing comebacks on the higher levels to up the difficulty, enough said.
                              "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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