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  • CKW11
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    • Mar 2009
    • 1540

    #16
    Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

    Originally posted by canes21
    After playing too much and staying up way too late, I've got a set that I have played a good amount of games on. I've had a wide variety of games with these and the box scores have all looked good. Unfortunately, I'm an idiot and didn't save my spreadsheet tracking my stats, so I can't provide them this go around.

    I still think we'll be making updates to this set as I think some areas of the game can be made better with more tweaks, but I feel good enough to put these on here as a rough 1.0 set. I haven't played much today yet, so I honestly don't know if the update today messed with gameplay and will make these any better/worse, but we'll be able to find that out pretty quickly. I'm hoping to get around 10 games in between today and tomorrow, and I will save the spreadsheet this time, so I can have a decent sample size to look at so I can see what the stats say needs to be fixed.

    v1.0

    Game Settings
    Difficulty: Heisman
    Quarter Length: 12 Minutes
    Accelerated Clock: On
    Minimum Play Clock Time: 20 Seconds
    Defensive Ball Hawk: Off
    Defensive Heat Seeker Assist: Off
    Injuries: 42
    Fatigue: 72
    Player Speed parity Scale: 95

    Penalties
    Offside: 60
    False State: 65
    Offensive Holding: 65
    Facemask: 65
    Illegal Block in the Back: 65
    Roughing the Passer: 50
    Defensive Pass Interference: 95

    *I'm assuming like Madden that once we're in Dynasty mode we can change these values by 1-point increments. We're stuck with 5-point increments in the main menu for whatever reason.

    Player Skill
    QB Accuracy: 36
    Pass Blocking: 42
    WR Catching: 49

    Run Blocking: 30
    Ball Security: 45

    Reaction Time: 76
    Interceptions: 13
    Pass Coverage: 72

    Tackling: 49

    Special Teams all at 50

    CPU Skill
    QB Accuracy: 21
    Pass Blocking: 10
    WR Catching: 49

    Run Blocking: 100
    Ball Security: 45

    Reaction Time: 76
    Interceptions: 13
    Pass Coverage: 72

    Tackling: 51

    Special Teams all at 50


    Are you noticing a large discrepancy in the amount of plays ran by teams who run a lot of tempo/no huddle vs teams that don’t? I’m noticing the accel clock isn’t applied when running no huddle..


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    • BarfytheOwl
      Pro
      • Sep 2016
      • 608

      #17
      Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

      I'm up 17-10 on Pitt with Syracuse at half, but I wanted to point out a really cool thing I saw, I've never seen a play like this in an EA football game. I got a sack off the left edge, and as I shed the block the QB started to roll to his right towards his dump off in the flat. I jumped and caused the QB to pull the ball back and eat the sack. It wasn't a forced dual animation, it looked very natural.

      Sacks seem a little high, 6 in the first half, but it's Syracuse and Pitt, so. Not the best or most talented OLs.

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      • jdb7623
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        • Jun 2003
        • 186

        #18
        Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

        Curious if you're seeing the AI calling more audibles. Is the AI on heisman smarter with playcalling and audibles?

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        • canes21
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 22895

          #19
          Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

          Originally posted by D Tom
          Do you mess with auto subs at all? Or is the fatigue slider made with default values in mind?
          Current setup right now is

          QB 0/1
          RB 85/92
          WR 80/87
          FB/TE 82/75
          OL 0/1

          DT 85/92
          DE 85/92
          LB 75/82
          CB 75/82
          S 75/82


          Originally posted by CKW11
          Are you noticing a large discrepancy in the amount of plays ran by teams who run a lot of tempo/no huddle vs teams that don’t? I’m noticing the accel clock isn’t applied when running no huddle..


          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
          High tempo teams are running more plays, which they should. Accelerated clock won't run when teams run no huddle as accelerated clock's purpose is to simulate the time teams would take to huddle.
          “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


          ― Plato

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          • BarfytheOwl
            Pro
            • Sep 2016
            • 608

            #20
            Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

            EA really needs to fix the kick return logic, or we're gonna need to make kickoff power high enough that they don't return it

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            • canes21
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 22895

              #21
              Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

              Originally posted by BarfytheOwl
              I'm up 17-10 on Pitt with Syracuse at half, but I wanted to point out a really cool thing I saw, I've never seen a play like this in an EA football game. I got a sack off the left edge, and as I shed the block the QB started to roll to his right towards his dump off in the flat. I jumped and caused the QB to pull the ball back and eat the sack. It wasn't a forced dual animation, it looked very natural.

              Sacks seem a little high, 6 in the first half, but it's Syracuse and Pitt, so. Not the best or most talented OLs.

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              6 sacks between both teams? The CPU pass blocking has been pretty stout which is why I have the value so low right now, but maybe Miami's DL isn't rated all that well at pass rushing. This is something I am keeping an eye on.

              That play sounds awesome, though.

              I just finished up a game vs WVU, first game I am tracking stats for on this set, and let's just say that I choked that game away in the 2nd half and the adaptive AI once again made me its *****. I went from being up 14-7 at the half to losing 17-24. My 2nd half adjustments are apparently terrible as this is a common theme, lol. I am loving it.
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              • BarfytheOwl
                Pro
                • Sep 2016
                • 608

                #22
                Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                Originally posted by canes21
                6 sacks between both teams? The CPU pass blocking has been pretty stout which is why I have the value so low right now, but maybe Miami's DL isn't rated all that well at pass rushing. This is something I am keeping an eye on.

                That play sounds awesome, though.

                I just finished up a game vs WVU, first game I am tracking stats for on this set, and let's just say that I choked that game away in the 2nd half and the adaptive AI once again made me its *****. I went from being up 14-7 at the half to losing 17-24. My 2nd half adjustments are apparently terrible as this is a common theme, lol. I am loving it.
                Yeah between both. I *do* user the edge, that could be part of it on my end, but I've only gotten 1 sack myself and am winning my rush on maybe a 35% clip, and Pitt has more sacks than I do.

                So I think it's probably more on the level of talent on both teams, and me holding the ball too long.

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                • Playmakers
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 15344

                  #23
                  Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                  Originally posted by canes21
                  I haven't seen much QB running in general. I've also played Improviser and Scrambling QB's only to this point, no Field Generals. I think QB's overall could stand to look to run a little more. They are suffering from the issue that plagued Madden a year or so ago where they drift back too much when nobody is open instead of looking to run.
                  This is very concerning

                  Thanks for the feedback
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                  • Helios12787
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1628

                    #24
                    Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                    I've seen a decent amount of scrambling from the CPU QB watching A&S's stream. Granted I don't know number of scramble attempts and such, but it didn't seem like they were taking unnecessary sacks with running room available.

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                    • BarfytheOwl
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 608

                      #25
                      Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                      31-24 Cuse over Pitt. The Adaptive coaching AI is not a joke, they shut me out in the 2nd half until late in the 4th when I got the go ahead score.

                      K. McCord (SU) - 17/26, 65%, 229, 2 TD
                      N. Yarnell (PITT) - 27/45, 60%, 344, 3 TD/1 INT

                      L. Allen (SU) - 22/105, 1 TD
                      Y. Willis (SU) - 3/19
                      R. Hammond Jr. (PITT) - 18/76

                      T. Peña (SU) - 5/51, 2 TD
                      O. Gadsden II (SU) - 5/79
                      K. Mumpfield (PITT) - 10/96, 1 TD
                      D. Reynolds (PITT) - 7/73, 1 TD
                      C. Lee (PITT) - 4/88, 1 TD

                      F. Diggs (SU) - 7 tackle, 2 TFL, 2.5 sack
                      B. Ingraham (SU) - 4 tackle, 2 TFL, 1 sack
                      K. Jobity Jr. (SU) - 5 tackle, 1 TFL, 0.5 sack
                      J. Bellamy (SU) - 6 tackle, 1 INT, 1 FF, 1 TD
                      J. Barron (SU) - 11 tackle, 1 TFL
                      M. Wax (SU) - 11 tackle, 1 TFL
                      N. James (PITT) - 5 tackle, 2 TFL, 1.5 sack
                      M. Bradley (PITT) - 1 tackle, 0.5 sack
                      N. Matlack (PITT) - 6 tackle, 2 TFL, 1.5 sack
                      N. Johnson (PITT) - 3 tackle, 0.5 sack
                      K. Thompson (PITT) - 13 tackle, 2 TFL

                      B. Denaburg (SU) - 1/2 FG, 4/4 XP
                      B. Sauls (PITT) - 1/2 FG, 3/3 XP

                      Penalties: (SU) 3/35, (PITT) 6/55

                      Gonna play a game between 2 better teams next, see if the sack totals go down with better OL talent.

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                      Last edited by BarfytheOwl; 07-16-2024, 02:55 PM.
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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22895

                        #26
                        Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                        I'm an idiot and didn't include the sacks or tackles for loss for my WVU game in my spreadsheet. I will have it for the remainder of games. I have a hunch we'll end up tinkering with the pass blocking value for both the User and CPU after getting a good enough sample size in. Also have a hunch I may have lowered the interception slider too much, but we'll wait and see after I get a decent amount of games in on the set.
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                        • BarfytheOwl
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 608

                          #27
                          Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                          Originally posted by canes21
                          I'm an idiot and didn't include the sacks or tackles for loss for my WVU game in my spreadsheet. I will have it for the remainder of games. I have a hunch we'll end up tinkering with the pass blocking value for both the User and CPU after getting a good enough sample size in. Also have a hunch I may have lowered the interception slider too much, but we'll wait and see after I get a decent amount of games in on the set.
                          Decided to go FSU v. The U for my "better teams" game. 7-7 already, and Ward has run on me a few times, though only one wasn't by design.

                          Should be 7-3 but I destroyed the kicker trying to block the FG.

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                          • CKW11
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1540

                            #28
                            Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                            Originally posted by canes21
                            Current setup right now is



                            QB 0/1

                            RB 85/92

                            WR 80/87

                            FB/TE 82/75

                            OL 0/1



                            DT 85/92

                            DE 85/92

                            LB 75/82

                            CB 75/82

                            S 75/82









                            High tempo teams are running more plays, which they should. Accelerated clock won't run when teams run no huddle as accelerated clock's purpose is to simulate the time teams would take to huddle.


                            Yeah i guess I’m just used to madden having the 8-9ish second run off even in no huddle situations.

                            I played a team last night that ran no huddle a lot and we ended up running a combined 165 plays lol felt like way too many.


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                            • canes21
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 22895

                              #29
                              Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                              Originally posted by CKW11
                              Yeah i guess I’m just used to madden having the 8-9ish second run off even in no huddle situations.

                              I played a team last night that ran no huddle a lot and we ended up running a combined 165 plays lol felt like way too many.


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                              Definitely a little high at 165. If you want to look at how many plays/game teams averaged last year, this page will allow you to sort it and everything.

                              https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...m-offense.html
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                              • letsgopens66
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                                • Aug 2010
                                • 844

                                #30
                                Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                                First ODU dynasty game in the books, lost 49-17 to USCe. *******s were running out the clock but then passed with 80 seconds left to score a 60 yard TD so that inflated things. I guess run up the middle so that was a lil annoying.

                                Sellers was 18/25 for 275 yards, 3 TDs and 1 INT. He rushed 8 times for 24 yards and 2 TDs.

                                They ran Raheim Sanders 36 times for 206 yards, 2 TDs.

                                For me…
                                Grant Wilson was 12/21 for 153 yards, 1 TD

                                Devin Roche led rushing with 74 yards on 15 attempts.

                                Overall I was outgained 518-271. We each had two turnovers. They had 6 sacks and I had 2.

                                Good game overall aside from the last min BS passing TD on their side. ODU is bad bad
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