50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

[walter323]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Playing in an OD that is in year 10 on Heisman. Half of the user teams are jacked up 99 OVR from 10 seasons of recruiting. We are using the base sliders from here. Are there any adjustments that should be made to still make the CPU games competitive?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Playing in an OD that is in year 10 on Heisman. Half of the user teams are jacked up 99 OVR from 10 seasons of recruiting. We are using the base sliders from here. Are there any adjustments that should be made to still make the CPU games competitive?

I think you should still get good games when matchups allow. Bear in mind that 99 overall teams SHOULD win most of their games with thus set as it is intended to reflect ratings.

One user has been using them in his long going dynasty using a stacked Miami team and on his twitch streams, has had some really good games.

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Here is a breakdown through my first 6 seasons. I am going to just post random stats, it would take me a few hours to type everything out that I have wrote down.

Ohio State

Overall record 71-10 first 3 years without adjustments was 38-3
Big 10 championships 3
Bowl record 4-2
National championship games 1-2

Total stat averages osu/cpu

Score 37 - 19
Fds 22 - 18
Total offense 445.1 - 330.1
Rushing attempts 46 - 25 (first 3 years for cpu were really low)
Yards 246.7 - 113.9
Avg 5.3 - 4.5 (yr 1-3 less than 2.0 for cpu)
Tds 186 - 78

Pass attempts 21 - 21
Pass completions 16 - 15
Yards 196 - 208
Tds 138 - 78
Ints 48 - 96

3rd downs 50% - 30%
Red zone tds 240 - 42
Turnovers 84 - 138
T.o.p 26:00 - 14:00

1-3 years before adjusting cpu rba to 100 cpu averaged only 49 plays to my 79.
After adjustments 3-6 yrs total plays were 64 - 59 (cpu).

Other notes
- cpu had 18 100 yard rushers
- 7 100 yard wrs
- 3 300 yard passers

Best offensive season leaders
Passing 2014
Braxton Miller (due to injuries I just rolled with him)
234/324-2735 72% 22 tds 6ints
also had 222 carries for 1110 yards 11 tds

Rushing 2016
Mike Weber 286-1685 16tds beat Elliot by 2 yards from 2014 who was injured in week 9.

Recieving 2017
Jordan Miles 50-986 13 tds

Total offense
Braxton Miller 3,845 yards 33 total touchdowns.

Out of the 10 losses 4 were to Alabama with the avg score being 17-14 I also beat them 3 times by an average of 31-17.

I neglected to recriut solid o line just because I didn't think the ratings really matter in this last season going 10-3 I really struggled to run the ball and hold up in pass pro with and average o line rating of only a 76. I averaged less than 350 yards a game and only around 150 on the ground.

I am really considering taking over at the University of Tennessee as the roster is depleted and they have had 4 straight losing seasons! If anyone wants more stats or a breakdown just shoot a message on what specifically you would like to know. Absolutely love this set with my personal adjustments every game had a different feel and I had that feeling I couldn't just randomly play and expect to win!

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Here is a breakdown through my first 6 seasons. I am going to just post random stats, it would take me a few hours to type everything out that I have wrote down.

Ohio State

Overall record 71-10 first 3 years without adjustments was 38-3
Big 10 championships 3
Bowl record 4-2
National championship games 1-2

Total stat averages osu/cpu

Score 37 - 19
Fds 22 - 18
Total offense 445.1 - 330.1
Rushing attempts 46 - 25 (first 3 years for cpu were really low)
Yards 246.7 - 113.9
Avg 5.3 - 4.5 (yr 1-3 less than 2.0 for cpu)
Tds 186 - 78

Pass attempts 21 - 21
Pass completions 16 - 15
Yards 196 - 208
Tds 138 - 78
Ints 48 - 96

3rd downs 50% - 30%
Red zone tds 240 - 42
Turnovers 84 - 138
T.o.p 26:00 - 14:00

1-3 years before adjusting cpu rba to 100 cpu averaged only 49 plays to my 79.
After adjustments 3-6 yrs total plays were 64 - 59 (cpu).

Other notes
- cpu had 18 100 yard rushers
- 7 100 yard wrs
- 3 300 yard passers

Best offensive season leaders
Passing 2014
Braxton Miller (due to injuries I just rolled with him)
234/324-2735 72% 22 tds 6ints
also had 222 carries for 1110 yards 11 tds

Rushing 2016
Mike Weber 286-1685 16tds beat Elliot by 2 yards from 2014 who was injured in week 9.

Recieving 2017
Jordan Miles 50-986 13 tds

Total offense
Braxton Miller 3,845 yards 33 total touchdowns.

Out of the 10 losses 4 were to Alabama with the avg score being 17-14 I also beat them 3 times by an average of 31-17.

I neglected to recriut solid o line just because I didn't think the ratings really matter in this last season going 10-3 I really struggled to run the ball and hold up in pass pro with and average o line rating of only a 76. I averaged less than 350 yards a game and only around 150 on the ground.

I am really considering taking over at the University of Tennessee as the roster is depleted and they have had 4 straight losing seasons! If anyone wants more stats or a breakdown just shoot a message on what specifically you would like to know. Absolutely love this set with my personal adjustments every game had a different feel and I had that feeling I couldn't just randomly play and expect to win!

Awesome stuff JP....I get my butt kicked plenty on the OP setup, but I am so happy that you found the adjustments you needed to make things work for you. I know how much you struggled (along with many of us) to find a set you really enjoyed.

Although I too am a Buckeye fan...Tennessee is a really fun place to play - I really think you should take that job

Resurrecting a power program can often be one of the most fun types of dynasties...

[Von Dozier]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I am really considering taking over at the University of Tennessee as the roster is depleted and they have had 4 straight losing seasons! If anyone wants more stats or a breakdown just shoot a message on what specifically you would like to know. Absolutely love this set with my personal adjustments every game had a different feel and I had that feeling I couldn't just randomly play and expect to win!

What tweaks did you make?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

What tweaks did you make?

JP changed CPU RBA to 100 and User TAK to 25.

[jp18]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

JP changed CPU RBA to 100 and User TAK to 25.

Exactly this^^^^^^. For me it just provides a little more challenge to stop the run. It has helped the cpu stick with the run a little more than what I was experiencing. I think it just fits my laystyle better. I always play with the safety and while the cpu rba as josh has it is certainly fine but I am to good stopping the run using the safety and I tried using a lineman a couple of games but after 15+ years of always playing safety I just couldn't adjust to it. The only very noticeable difference after playing with the rba at 100 is the initial first couple of plays the cpu can be a little overpowering but once the user gets a few run stuffs it settles in. Fatigue also plays a part but I can live with no rotation there usually the cpu runs the #1 back into the ground anyway which imo hurts them later in the game. Every now and again the qbs and rbs hit you with that dreaded stiff arm but after studying the ratings it usually is only the guys with a higher rating. It also provides a bit more wiggle from backs where I now am not sure which direction they will go resulting in more missed tackles.

Josh I am with you I really think I am going to take the Vol job they have become the Purdue of the big 10 and while my coach skills are still fairly low I think it will be a huge challenge!

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Exactly this^^^^^^. For me it just provides a little more challenge to stop the run. It has helped the cpu stick with the run a little more than what I was experiencing. I think it just fits my laystyle better. I always play with the safety and while the cpu rba as josh has it is certainly fine but I am to good stopping the run using the safety and I tried using a lineman a couple of games but after 15+ years of always playing safety I just couldn't adjust to it. The only very noticeable difference after playing with the rba at 100 is the initial first couple of plays the cpu can be a little overpowering but once the user gets a few run stuffs it settles in. Fatigue also plays a part but I can live with no rotation there usually the cpu runs the #1 back into the ground anyway which imo hurts them later in the game. Every now and again the qbs and rbs hit you with that dreaded stiff arm but after studying the ratings it usually is only the guys with a higher rating. It also provides a bit more wiggle from backs where I now am not sure which direction they will go resulting in more missed tackles.

Josh I am with you I really think I am going to take the Vol job they have become the Purdue of the big 10 and while my coach skills are still fairly low I think it will be a huge challenge!

I've always played on the defensive line myself (like you, I just can't change after so many years) and I think that one playstyle difference is so key. Having dynamic safety play in the run game can really alter the gameplay mechanics tremendously (I think of the Steelers for all those years with Polamalu) and much more so than a defensive lineman (assuming one doesn't cheese or exploit the game - which I don't). I think that is why you always struggled to find a challenge (until now).

Man....all this NCAA talk is getting me all jazzed to play some (Madden has been consuming me since the new patch came out).

[NewNapkin]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

How do you control your D-Lineman, Josh? I control LB's whenever I play online, but I like to let my players play to their ratings in dynasty. However, I feel like it is too easy to dominate the line in both Madden and NCAA. I get off the edge too easily as a DE, and I push the O-linemen right into the QB as a DT. How do you go about actually controlling them?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

How do you control your D-Lineman, Josh? I control LB's whenever I play online, but I like to let my players play to their ratings in dynasty. However, I feel like it is too easy to dominate the line in both Madden and NCAA. I get off the edge too easily as a DE, and I push the O-linemen right into the QB as a DT. How do you go about actually controlling them?

I pretty much fully control them. The one thing I avoid doing is using that inside pass rush using the RE where you can dip inside the LT without him engaging. I really feel that the LT not engaging is a bit of an exploit, so I don't abuse it.

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

One thing I have been playing with has been setting OPI/DPI to 51/50. I have seen some beautiful catches and pass breakups. An unintended effect has been that CPU QB play has been better in both pocket awareness and pass distribution without seeing Robo QB.

Would love people familiar with these sliders give this change a shot for a few games and provide feedback.

[bridgesro]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I've started using these sliders recently and I've noticed a big difference in the game being much more even to the level of play between teams. The one issue I have so far is the number of sacks per game - it seems unusually high regardless of team ratings. The DL just slices through the OL like butter, giving each team nearly 10 sacks a game on average. Any thoughts on what I can do to help this while still keeping the balance in place?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I've started using these sliders recently and I've noticed a big difference in the game being much more even to the level of play between teams. The one issue I have so far is the number of sacks per game - it seems unusually high regardless of team ratings. The DL just slices through the OL like butter, giving each team nearly 10 sacks a game on average. Any thoughts on what I can do to help this while still keeping the balance in place?

I haven't seen that issue personally. Are the sacks coming versus weak lines? Are you usering the d-line?

Try the adjustment I posted above...I have seen much better pocket awareness so this might help.

[bridgesro]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I haven't seen that issue personally. Are the sacks coming versus weak lines? Are you usering the d-line?

Try the adjustment I posted above...I have seen much better pocket awareness so this might help.

I'll give the adjustments a shot. I haven't been controlling the d-line myself - not great at playing defense, lol.

[bridgesro]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

That adjustment has helped lower sacks. Not as much pass coverage, so I might try increasing it a little - maybe 55/54 or 60/59.