50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

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  • jp18
    MVP
    • Apr 2014
    • 2031

    #331
    Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

    Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
    Great set Josh. Really resisted heisman and couldn't find a good AA set so decided to try them.

    Tenn 48 BGSU 17

    Really played well and was close until after 2nd half, my team got hot and defense stepped up.

    One thing, they called QB option like crazy and the QB had 16 runs while HB had only 14. Any idea if this is normal? Or even how to focus QB so he will atleast hand it off.

    Also for those asking, 2015-2016 community rosters are great! Just have to change some coach settings.
    Go into your game adjustments and set your qb contain and option defense to agressive for the qb. They will hand the ball off a lot instead of the qb keeping it, I prefer running a spy just so the option doesn't become useless to the qb.

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    • J_Mac_III
      Just started!
      • Jan 2016
      • 2

      #332
      Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

      Originally posted by JoshC1977
      Yeah, penalties are broken...you might get an occasional clipping or false start (a holding call once in a while), but that's about it.

      I primarily use the 2013 roster I posted on the OP (PS3). If you're on 360, I have no idea which roster will be the most stable - but yes, sometimes rosters can cause freezes...but also, using custom playbooks can also cause issues.
      Actually I have been getting more penalties with your sliders than with my penalty sliders jacked up in the 90s. I actually got called for offensive pass interference and had a false start in my last game.

      Also noticed that in the first half I came out audibling to a run in certain shotgun sets when I had numbers. In the second half the defense countered those formations by keeping an extra lb in the box. Good stuff!

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      • JoshC1977
        All Star
        • Dec 2010
        • 11564

        #333
        Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

        Originally posted by J_Mac_III
        Actually I have been getting more penalties with your sliders than with my penalty sliders jacked up in the 90s. I actually got called for offensive pass interference and had a false start in my last game.

        Also noticed that in the first half I came out audibling to a run in certain shotgun sets when I had numbers. In the second half the defense countered those formations by keeping an extra lb in the box. Good stuff!
        Oh yeah....the AI will adjust to what you're running. And, if you don't stop certain plays....they will run them over and over.

        The adaptive AI is one of the most unsung bright spots about this game.
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        • UravenzownU
          Rookie
          • Apr 2011
          • 644

          #334
          Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

          Originally posted by jp18
          The only very noticeable difference after playing with the rba at 100 is the initial first couple of plays the cpu can be a little overpowering but once the user gets a few run stuffs it settles in. Fatigue also plays a part but I can live with no rotation there usually the cpu runs the #1 back into the ground anyway which imo hurts them later in the game. Every now and again the qbs and rbs hit you with that dreaded stiff arm but after studying the ratings it usually is only the guys with a higher rating. It also provides a bit more wiggle from backs where I now am not sure which direction they will go resulting in more missed tackles.
          After watching the naty game (great game by the way) i decided to try the CPU RBA at 100 and User tack at 25, and just wanted to chime in that I am seeing exactly what JP is seeing

          A little OP at 1st but once you stuff them a few times the CPU running game comes back down to earth
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          • jp18
            MVP
            • Apr 2014
            • 2031

            #335
            Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

            Josh, I see you changed up the opi/dpi numbers. What exactly prompted the change. Skimming through the thread I didn't see much about it. I will have to give it a shot!

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            • NKRDIBL
              Rookie
              • Jul 2010
              • 307

              #336
              Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

              Originally posted by jp18
              Josh, I see you changed up the opi/dpi numbers. What exactly prompted the change. Skimming through the thread I didn't see much about it. I will have to give it a shot!
              I do not want to speak for Josh, but I do believe it was making more realistic WR/DB interaction, more diving break ups/ better animations etc.

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              • JoshC1977
                All Star
                • Dec 2010
                • 11564

                #337
                Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                Originally posted by jp18
                Josh, I see you changed up the opi/dpi numbers. What exactly prompted the change. Skimming through the thread I didn't see much about it. I will have to give it a shot!
                It was actually something Matt had come up with in the community thread. It was initially started to reduce the number of times DBs would stop in the middle of routes (so more fluidity in coverage). It did that, but also seemed to improve the DB animations as NKRDIBL stated. As an unintended positive effect, QB awareness seemed to be a bit better in the pocket.
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                • jp18
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 2031

                  #338
                  Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                  Originally posted by JoshC1977
                  It was actually something Matt had come up with in the community thread. It was initially started to reduce the number of times DBs would stop in the middle of routes (so more fluidity in coverage). It did that, but also seemed to improve the DB animations as NKRDIBL stated. As an unintended positive effect, QB awareness seemed to be a bit better in the pocket.
                  I plugged it in and started playing with it at 50/51 and yes I noticed a difference right away. Just a random dynasty game with Auburn vs Alabama I was down 21-0 mid 2nd quarter with 65 yards through the air, didn't need to go any further than that. Good find!

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                  • JoshC1977
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 11564

                    #339
                    Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                    Originally posted by jp18
                    I plugged it in and started playing with it at 50/51 and yes I noticed a difference right away. Just a random dynasty game with Auburn vs Alabama I was down 21-0 mid 2nd quarter with 65 yards through the air, didn't need to go any further than that. Good find!
                    Yeah, it's a fun adjustment. Going up against elite DBs can be tough, but mis-matches really shine through too (it's quite gratifying to be able to hit that bomb every now and then or to mix-match your depth chart to exploit your opponent).
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                    • jp18
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 2031

                      #340
                      Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                      Originally posted by JoshC1977
                      Yeah, it's a fun adjustment. Going up against elite DBs can be tough, but mis-matches really shine through too (it's quite gratifying to be able to hit that bomb every now and then or to mix-match your depth chart to exploit your opponent).
                      Unfortunately for me I had no mismatches to use in that game, not to mention bamas dline only sacked me 6 times in my first 9 attempts. Pretty sure I was well into the negative category on rushing. Just about to go back in a get another game or two in playing all the way through.

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                      • JoshC1977
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 11564

                        #341
                        Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                        Originally posted by jp18
                        Unfortunately for me I had no mismatches to use in that game, not to mention bamas dline only sacked me 6 times in my first 9 attempts. Pretty sure I was well into the negative category on rushing. Just about to go back in a get another game or two in playing all the way through.
                        Man....6 sacks?!

                        That's the tough thing....now you have to try to force some balls into coverage and count on your WRs to make plays.

                        Now....just checking because you said 50/51....you DO have OPI at 51 and DPI at 50, right? (I can't remember the order on NCAA). I'm pretty sure you said it right, but I just wanted to make sure because having DPI higher is a totally different animal - and not in a good way.
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                        • TheBleedingRed21
                          Game Dev
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 5071

                          #342
                          Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                          Hey Josh,

                          On the .csv you posted, do I just open the dynasty file and import the .csv for the coaches to be correct? Just importing will make them in the right spot, correct?
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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #343
                            Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                            Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                            Hey Josh,

                            On the .csv you posted, do I just open the dynasty file and import the .csv for the coaches to be correct? Just importing will make them in the right spot, correct?
                            I don't know if it would work on a dynasty file. I think you would need to add it to a roster file.

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                            • jp18
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 2031

                              #344
                              Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                              Originally posted by JoshC1977
                              Man....6 sacks?!

                              That's the tough thing....now you have to try to force some balls into coverage and count on your WRs to make plays.

                              Now....just checking because you said 50/51....you DO have OPI at 51 and DPI at 50, right? (I can't remember the order on NCAA). I'm pretty sure you said it right, but I just wanted to make sure because having DPI higher is a totally different animal - and not in a good way.
                              Yeah, idk why I typed it that way. Opi 51 dpi 50

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                              • jp18
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 2031

                                #345
                                Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

                                Played two full games with opi/dpi at 51/50. First was Penn St. (User) @ Wisconsin. Went into ot and ended up losing on an A. Lynch fumble down on the goaline. Wisc ended up kicking a fg to win it 10-7 best defensive game I have ever played. Both teams had around 300 yards but the difference was the Badgers run game with around 220. Stave was a mess but made a few plays when it counted. On to my side of it.....wow the Psu oline is absolutely horrible I had time for one route two if I was out running around. I tried to use motion to decipher between man and zone but that didn't help much. Forced a couple balls that were knocked down and threw 1 pick on 19/37 for around 280 or so yards. The oline though was so bad I was sacked 9 times which several I should have just thrown away. The match ups heavily favored the Badgers.

                                Second game I was N. Texas vs Marshall I was playing defense and let my son play offense to really pay attention to the cpu d (I am much better on d than o) anyhow he couldn't run much at all and gave Marshall a pick 6 so while I had it contained up to that point we fumbled on the next drive. He wanted to try d so I let him and Marshall went down the field in 3 plays lol to make it 14-0. We ended up turning it over again and shortly there after it was 21-0. He quit and I tried to make a comeback end result 56-3. I ended 9/33 passing I have only been close to being shut out 1 other time when I was actually trying to score. In the end I kicked a fg from the Marshall 7 with a 1st down but only 6 seconds to go so I had to get points. Really liking the change combined with what the couple changes I made.

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