So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

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  • LBzrule
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 13085

    #16
    Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

    Originally posted by Pared
    One would wonder why he was singing the company line while he was a GC and just NOW lashing out against it.

    This is the same thing I and others have known for years. No shocker here.

    EDIT: One thing to note - what he is doing is certainly capable of drawing a lawsuit. Very, very risky.
    Well when you are down for CD you actually feel like you are going to get to contribute to something. Then he probably did all of that work and now he probably feels like he wasted his time.

    Per the lawsuit, that's why I don't say much LOL. I just simply accept that the game is going to be whatever it is.

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    • TheBuddyHobbs
      Banned
      • Apr 2013
      • 2312

      #17
      Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

      Originally posted by LBzrule
      Well when you are down for CD you actually feel like you are going to get to contribute to something. Then he probably did all of that work and now he probably feels like he wasted his time.

      Per the lawsuit, that's why I don't say much LOL. I just simply accept that the game is going to be whatever it is.
      This pretty much says it all without saying anything.

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      • FaceMask
        Banned
        • Oct 2013
        • 847

        #18
        Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

        This is old news. There have been a few others who've spoken up and said practically the same things back before there even was a Gamechanger program, and they didn't wait until they were cut or left on their own, but far fewer have spoken up than have stayed quiet unfortunately, because I think a lot of these guys are hoping for a career in gaming and are willing to put up with the charade to maintain that opportunity and the small perk it gives them every year.

        What you can and can't say really has to do with the specifics of an individual NDA. Unfortunately, a lot of people sign them without understanding them and they either say too much and get into trouble, or say nothing because they think anything they say will draw a lawsuit, which is usually not the case unless the NDA specifically states it to be.

        The general comments he's made I doubt would draw a suit, but a couple of personal specifics he brought up with names is a BIG mistake which may have little to do with the specific NDA he signed, but everything to do with just being general grounds for a suit. However, I tend to think that people who would spend that long involved in that program and not realize what it really is after seeing how the game has turned out year after year, probably wouldn't see the issue of balance until it's too late.

        I'll end by saying this; the only people who can be Gamechangers are the people who actually work on the game every day. Everybody from the outside can give suggestions, but it's up to the developers at the end of the day, and more directly what the higher-ups above them allow them to do.
        Last edited by FaceMask; 02-06-2014, 09:00 AM.

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        • KANE699
          EA Sports' Equipment Guru
          • Jul 2007
          • 3447

          #19
          Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

          Let the man speak, I can tell you it does not seem to be coming off as pure hate just because he isn't a part of the program anymore.
          Please take note that most of what I say and post is made in satire.

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          • howboutdat
            MVP
            • Nov 2012
            • 1908

            #20
            Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

            anyone got a link to the madden 15 video footage? i heard them talking about it on their radio show on coach's page , but i cant find a link for a madden 15 video anywhere. seems they saw some big issue in the video, id like to see it for myself....
            Yup, i said it !



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            • PVarck31
              Moderator
              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #21
              Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

              Originally posted by howboutdat
              anyone got a link to the madden 15 video footage? i heard them talking about it on their radio show on coach's page , but i cant find a link for a madden 15 video anywhere. seems they saw some big issue in the video, id like to see it for myself....
              Pretty sure there is no Madden 15 videos out there.

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              • howboutdat
                MVP
                • Nov 2012
                • 1908

                #22
                Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                Originally posted by PVarck31
                Pretty sure there is no Madden 15 videos out there.
                maybe only the game changers have them then, i was listening to coach's ruckous and two other game changers radio program, and they were all talking about it. so maybe its only something they can , at this time see, but we will see later on in a few months. guess only time will tell
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                • EASPORTS_AJ
                  EA Sports Community Manager
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 103

                  #23
                  Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                  Originally posted by howboutdat
                  maybe only the game changers have them then, i was listening to coach's ruckous and two other game changers radio program, and they were all talking about it. so maybe its only something they can , at this time see, but we will see later on in a few months. guess only time will tell
                  I can assure you that footage of a future Madden title does not exist -- with a Game Changer or otherwise.
                  Last edited by EASPORTS_AJ; 02-06-2014, 03:47 PM.

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                  • mestevo
                    Gooney Goo Goo
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19556

                    #24
                    Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                    Originally posted by KANE699
                    Let the man speak, I can tell you it does not seem to be coming off as pure hate just because he isn't a part of the program anymore.
                    I'd be more interested in what he has to say if he did more than just post youtube videos and come across like someone's upset ex-girlfriend turned hopeful Youtube celebrity.

                    The extremes for and against EA are silly and just pandering to one side or the other.

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                    • howboutdat
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1908

                      #25
                      Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                      Originally posted by mestevo
                      I'd be more interested in what he has to say if he did more than just post youtube videos and come across like someone's upset ex-girlfriend turned hopeful Youtube celebrity.

                      The extremes for and against EA are silly and just pandering to one side or the other.
                      i totally agree. thats why i was wondering if anyone could see this video they was talking about , all three was talking about it , sounded like a video for the upcoming game , since the start of the radio show he was talking about seahawks stomping the broncos, which just happend. cant recall the other two in the program both of them are game changers though. and was sounding off about how someone was out of place in the video..... so i was hoping to see for myself what the fuss was about... i personally have seen madden going in a better direction the last two maddens. while sure at times things seem to move rather slow there.. like they seem like they could move faster, im just glad to be getting better maddens the last two years myself and hope that continues...
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                      • KANE699
                        EA Sports' Equipment Guru
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3447

                        #26
                        Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                        Originally posted by mestevo
                        I'd be more interested in what he has to say if he did more than just post youtube videos and come across like someone's upset ex-girlfriend turned hopeful Youtube celebrity.

                        The extremes for and against EA are silly and just pandering to one side or the other.

                        Doesn't mean it may not necessarily be true.
                        Please take note that most of what I say and post is made in satire.

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                        • Gotmadskillzson
                          Live your life
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 23441

                          #27
                          Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                          I just watched, The Happy Scientist Show video he did. OMG.....

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                          • TheBuddyHobbs
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 2312

                            #28
                            Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                            Originally posted by mestevo
                            I'd be more interested in what he has to say if he did more than just post youtube videos and come across like someone's upset ex-girlfriend turned hopeful Youtube celebrity.

                            The extremes for and against EA are silly and just pandering to one side or the other.
                            So this guy confirms what we already thought was happening at EA, but it's still silly of us to feel that way?

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                            • DeuceDouglas
                              Madden Dev Team
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 4297

                              #29
                              Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                              Who do we believe? People are going to believe what they want to believe.

                              I couldn't really care less for all this middle-school type, "I got dumped so I'm going to 'expose' you" crap. Does any of this seem childish to anybody else? I've never watched any of this guys vids but the OP says he crapped on people for criticizing the GameChangers program. But now he's all "F*** Madden"? Just seems like a bid for attention to me but like I said, I couldn't possibly care less about this type of nonsense.

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                              • Brandwin
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 30621

                                #30
                                Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                                Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                                I just watched, The Happy Scientist Show video he did. OMG.....
                                I just watched that. I am not sure how much is true but

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