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  • KANE699
    EA Sports' Equipment Guru
    • Jul 2007
    • 3447

    #76
    Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

    Problem here is, what's across the street?
    Please take note that most of what I say and post is made in satire.

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #77
      Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

      This is going off topic, but Ian and others have seemed to find something.

      Now, back on topic, there are some points on those videos to be taken, but you have to sift through them to get to them.

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      • N51_rob
        Faceuary!
        • Jul 2003
        • 14805

        #78
        Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

        Originally posted by KANE699
        Problem here is, what's across the street?

        For game developers there are plenty of options. I mean hell Candy Crush is about to launch an IPO.

        If you are speaking specifically about making another football game then yes there is nothing. But it's not like EA is the only developer out there.

        Now if you are speaking as a consumer who wants options in the Video Game Football market, there is nothing across the street but it's been that was since 2005.


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        • Bruce LeRoy
          Banned
          • Nov 2013
          • 78

          #79
          Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

          The situation is worst than I thought, according to this guy the Game Changers are a big reason for the problems. He states it starts from the bottom up, not the other way around. He claims most of the GC's are non-sim, arcade, tournament style players that don't want the game to change much, want to keep it the same for the most part so they can pick up and play (not have to learn football or new controls) and take advantage of bugs in the game. This is crazy if true, I guess we will see come E3 if next-gen Madden 15 does not undergo a major surgery.

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          • JaymeeAwesome
            Dynasty Guru
            • Jan 2005
            • 4152

            #80
            Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

            Originally posted by Bruce LeRoy
            The situation is worst than I thought, according to this guy the Game Changers are a big reason for the problems. He states it starts from the bottom up, not the other way around. He claims most of the GC's are non-sim, arcade, tournament style players that don't want the game to change much, want to keep it the same for the most part so they can pick up and play (not have to learn football or new controls) and take advantage of bugs in the game. This is crazy if true, I guess we will see come E3 if next-gen Madden 15 does not undergo a major surgery.

            We already know Madden 15 won't have any major surgery because this is the final year of their 3 year plan starting with Madden 13. We should expect to see minor improvements to finish out their vision. Madden 16 is the one you should be excited for.
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            • NicVirtue
              Rookie
              • Oct 2011
              • 453

              #81
              Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

              Originally posted by JaymeeAwesome
              We already know Madden 15 won't have any major surgery because this is the final year of their 3 year plan starting with Madden 13. We should expect to see minor improvements to finish out their vision. Madden 16 is the one you should be excited for.
              I thought Madden 25 was the beginning of Cam Webbers 3 year plan. Even if so, I doubt the game would be much different 2 years later.

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              • Bruce LeRoy
                Banned
                • Nov 2013
                • 78

                #82
                Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                Originally posted by JaymeeAwesome
                We already know Madden 15 won't have any major surgery because this is the final year of their 3 year plan starting with Madden 13. We should expect to see minor improvements to finish out their vision. Madden 16 is the one you should be excited for.
                Hold on, I thought Madden 25 was the first year of another BS 3 year plan?

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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #83
                  Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                  Originally posted by Bruce LeRoy
                  Hold on, I thought Madden 25 was the first year of another BS 3 year plan?
                  Not when Cam Weber joined in 2011. He came in towards the middle of 12.

                  http://www.operationsports.com/featu...-gm-cam-weber/

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                  • Bruce LeRoy
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 78

                    #84
                    Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    Not when Cam Weber joined in 2011. He came in towards the middle of 12.

                    http://www.operationsports.com/featu...-gm-cam-weber/
                    I know for a fact that in fairly recent interviews Cam and or his team stated that Madden 25 was the first year of a 3 year plan. Didn't he say that at E3 last year? Not that I believe anything that comes out of their mouths anyway.

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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #85
                      Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                      I'm sick of three year plans.

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                      • Kramer5150
                        Medicore Mike
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 7395

                        #86
                        Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        I'm sick of three year plans.
                        Exactly...how many "3 year plans" have we had now? Look at the product and it's easy to see that this is nothing more than an excuse instead of saying the ever popular "wait till next year" let's make it sound more professional "we have a 3 year plan" ......although we are STILL getting the "wait till next year" excuse from some of the members here.

                        I don't give a flying frogs fat butt WHO makes a football game...but I do wish somebody else would/could....these excuses date clear back to the PS2/Xbox days...I've never heard of a game in all my life (and it's a long one...lol) that has had THIS many excuses and year after year after year it was "wait till next year"...
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                        • roadman
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 26339

                          #87
                          Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                          Originally posted by CowherPower
                          Exactly...how many "3 year plans" have we had now? Look at the product and it's easy to see that this is nothing more than an excuse instead of saying the ever popular "wait till next year" let's make it sound more professional "we have a 3 year plan" ......although we are STILL getting the "wait till next year" excuse from some of the members here.I don't give a flying frogs fat butt WHO makes a football game...but I do wish somebody else would/could....these excuses date clear back to the PS2/Xbox days...I've never heard of a game in all my life (and it's a long one...lol) that has had THIS many excuses and year after year after year it was "wait till next year"...
                          I take it you've never been a Cub or Browns fan. lol

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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #88
                            Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                            Originally posted by Bruce LeRoy
                            I know for a fact that in fairly recent interviews Cam and or his team stated that Madden 25 was the first year of a 3 year plan. Didn't he say that at E3 last year? Not that I believe anything that comes out of their mouths anyway.
                            If that's the case, you are one up on me with news from E3 last year. I remember mum was the word, even from CGer's.

                            Not much in the way of marketing last year for Madden. Maybe the budget was reduced.

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                            • Kramer5150
                              Medicore Mike
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 7395

                              #89
                              Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                              Originally posted by roadman
                              I take it you've never been a Cub or Browns fan. lol
                              At least those 2 teams have made it to the playoffs... and in the Browns case,the AFC championship.

                              IMO,Madden is still stuck in the preseason....
                              People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                              “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                              “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                              • PGaither84
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 4393

                                #90
                                Re: So who do we believe when it comes to the GameChanger program?

                                Is this new to anyone? Does anyone wonder why BeZo and I weren't asked back after Madden 11? Does anyone remember adembroski [AJ?] from back in the day? Remember him getting a job at EA? Remember him quiting and going on a rant the next day? How about KaneDB?


                                I don't have time to do an in depth reply, and I still want to watch these videos, but trust me, I will later if anyone still cares what I have to say. I just saw this topic in the next gen forums so, I have some catching up to do.
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