Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

If the game, as far as implementing the basic fundamentals, is still a work in progress, then IMO, the game should only cost about $19.99, until they get the basics correct..Very simple..I didn't buy a car that didn't run, under the label, it is a work in progress; I buy a car cause the fundamentals that make it a car actually work to standard..

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

This is how I feel the new penalties are going to turn out. They're hyping PI and defensive holding because we haven't seen it in years, or ever in defensive holding's case, but they are both penalties that get called on teams less than once per game. If we start seeing 5 PI calls and 3 holding calls a game, it's a complete failure. Sliders should help alleviate this but sliders haven't worked properly in years either so it could all just end up being a wash and making things worse.

I would not be surprised that once one PI or defensive holding penalty is called, the tourney/head to head players will cry so much that it will be patched within the first month.

[jpdavis82]

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I find it very difficult that they have been working on these issues, those in bold, for very long at all..The physics is basically faux physics in Madden which is based on getting animations to react a certain way; there is absolutely no true physics mechanism in game..

OL/DL interaction is again animations and those animations are not even in step with attributes, which has been shown many times in videos...

The WR/DB interaction is way off, and it is easy to figure out the basics of WR/DB interactions with google and/or youtube...

The problem seems to be a combination of many things, but most importantly is, IMO, a very poor gaming engine...Other games do much better on all aspects of physics, yet MAdden still relies on simple animations linked together...

I doubt anything will change for M16; though believing this, I still pre-ordered Madden 16...

Seriously, the programmers can't even make WR's aggressive enough to actually compete with DB's for the ball...SMH...THis is either poor programming or a deliberate attempt at forcing people to user WR catching; though even user catching is difficult cause WR's do not break out of their animations in time..

I'm assuming when you say the WR/DB interaction is way off that you're referring to M15, because you haven't even begun to see how they are in M16.

[DeuceDouglas]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

I would not be surprised that once one PI or defensive holding penalty is called, the tourney/head to head players will cry so much that it will be patched within the first month.

I can already picture people online figuring out how to constantly trigger PI animations and have that be the next new cheese. Playing games where the opponent scores 60 points on you on 27 total yards and 70 PI penalties.

[4thQtrStre5S]

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I'm assuming when you say the WR/DB interaction is way off that you're referring to M15, because you haven't even begun to see how they are in M16.

ANd the fact remains, I have to pay to see it...And WR/DB interactions are just one thing...

Look when you have a chance, as it seems you have seen some beta builds or something, and notice if, when DB's are in press cover, if their first move is to back pedal, or, if the WR goes inside or outside, the DB moves laterally to the LOS while keeping their body square with the LOS...

In M15 the DB immediately turn their hips, which is not proper cover technique...

[jpdavis82]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

ANd the fact remains, I have to pay to see it...And WR/DB interactions are just one thing...

Look when you have a chance, as it seems you have seen some beta builds or something, and notice if, when DB's are in press cover, if their first move is to back pedal, or, if the WR goes inside or outside, the DB moves laterally to the LOS while keeping their body square with the LOS...

In M15 the DB immediately turn their hips, which is not proper cover technique...

I'm just going to echo what Sim said last week, no football game has ever done WR/DB interactions as well as M16 does. I've seen things APF/2k and any other football game, have never done.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

I'm just going to echo what Sim said last week, no football game has ever done WR/DB interactions as well as M16 does. I've seen things APF/2k and any other football game, have never done.

I wouldn't be so worried if I could play a demo before buying, but that won't happen, so to even test the game I have to buy it...I could rely on reviews, but those can be bias/bought, and for every good review there is a bad review.

[IndyColts2]

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Offensive Holding is in as well for both run and pass blocking.

What about defensive holding during these new WR/DB interactions ? And if it's actually in the game does it work for LBs/TEs too?

[jpdavis82]

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What about defensive holding during these new WR/DB interactions ? And if it's actually in the game does it work for LBs/TEs too?

In his previous post, Rex was asked about defensive holding and then he made the post about offensive holding for run and pass plays too. So, to answer the question yes and I believe so, can't remember for sure.

[IndyColts2]

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What about defensive holding during these new WR/DB interactions ? And if it's actually in the game does it work for LBs/TEs too?

That's why I asked. Cause he was asked what type of holding is in the game and he only said offensive holding for run and pass blocking. I want him to clarify cause people got excited afterwards but he never said defensive holding

[IndyColts2]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

Let me clarify this for you guys. We have added new functionality to total control passing this year. We are building additional layers onto what was already there.

The new passing mechanics this year are the ability to throw low and high passes (relative to the receivers body) we also added touch passes which have a higher arc and a sharper drop. It is used for putting balls over the heads of underneath zone defenders and in front of deep zone defenders.

Are the defenders going to react to passes when the button is pressed or when the QB actually passes the ball? As it is now if I press A and the QB starts his windup then defenders are already collapsing to the intended receiver which shouldn't be the case. I can't throw the seam on 4 verts vs. cov 3 because as soon as I press the button defenders collapse quicker than they should. That and if I lob the pass it's basically an automatic pick. With these new passing mechanics will the "touch pass" actually allow me to drop the ball in the hole over the LB and before the safety without CBs running from the sideline making a pick?

[jpdavis82]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

Are the defenders going to react to passes when the button is pressed or when the QB actually passes the ball? As it is now if I press A and the QB starts his windup then defenders are already collapsing to the intended receiver which shouldn't be the case. I can't throw the seam on 4 verts vs. cov 3 because as soon as I press the button defenders collapse quicker than they should. That and if I lob the pass it's basically an automatic pick. With these new passing mechanics will the "touch pass" actually allow me to drop the ball in the hole over the LB and before the safety without CBs running from the sideline making a pick?

Can't answer these questions yet, hopefully soon.

[Skyboxer]

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That's why I asked. Cause he was asked what type of holding is in the game and he only said offensive holding for run and pass blocking. I want him to clarify cause people got excited afterwards but he never said defensive holding

He was asked if D holding was the holding he was referring to ...
he said "as well as O holding.. pass and run" so it "seems" with the way he answered that as well as D holding there is O holding for not only run but pass plays.

[Candyman5]

Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed - Total Control Passing and More

At this point, with adding those WR/DB interactions in, a correctly-called Pass Interference system is an absolute must.

Yeah, I need to some help stopping Rodgers somehow in our league.

[howboutdat]

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Here is another thing id love to see in the game, Real Defensive Disguise ,one that works. It was in madden 25 but it didnt work at all. You could call it pre snap on defense, and your defenders all stood in the same place, never moved an inch. Many guys know how to read a defense well. It would be nice if they would put in a real defensive disguise that actually works, where you could hit it before even your guys line up or after, and actually watch them line up to show something different than what your running. I used to just laugh , they claimed that was in madden 25, yet it never , ever worked.

Sure in Madden 15, they added actual set plays that were meant to do this, however there arent that many of them , and id like to be able to throw off my opponent at any time with any play call i choose. So i really hope they add it as a pre snap adjustment that actually works this time. Would make playing a human much more exciting , if your defenses could mask what they are really going to do pre snap.