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  • 4thQtrStre5S
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 3051

    #511
    Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
    Those completion percentages are not simple matters of accuracy though. The chart itself even implies that by the low completion percentage in the bottom left.

    You cannot fix completion percentage by only adjusting the QB accuracy sliders.
    Actually, in Madden, you can..

    Edited Cutler and Rodgers to:

    Cutler:
    SAC: 63
    MAC: 62
    DAC: 61

    THA: 62

    Rodgers:
    SAC: 65
    MAC: 65
    DAC: 65

    THA: 65

    Played a CPU v CPU game, 15 minute quarters, All-Pro, with all default settings...

    Cutler: 50.0% completion. 161 yards. 0 td. 0 int. 5.0 avg per pass. 23 yd long.
    Rodgers: 70.0% completion. 254 yards. 2 td. 0 int. 8.4 avg per pass. 51 yd long.

    Packers won 37-0

    The QB Accuracy ratings give a zone of how well a QB may do, independent of other team players, but with more normal settings, we will see more normal results in comparison with NFL results...

    Ultimately ALL attributes need to be brought into realistic lines using scouting reports and NFL stats for veterans...But it can be done...Madden players generally have good 40 times, but their 10 yard and 20 yard splits are way off because acceleration is messed up..In Madden players reach top speed in about 5 yards, while NFL player hit top speed at about 15 to 20 yards..

    there was a total of 13 sacks..indicating other attribute issues are present; though there are still issues with OL/DL interactions, as most sacks come from the left side at a very high rate.
    Last edited by 4thQtrStre5S; 05-21-2015, 07:06 PM.

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    • Greg Putnam
      Rookie
      • Mar 2013
      • 8

      #512
      Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

      Originally posted by Steve_OS

      Amazon has just released some of the new features for Madden NFL 16. There are some details on Total Control Passing, receiver and defender controls, playmaker broadcast and more.

      Check out the details below and let us know what you think.

      Be the playmaker in Madden NFL 16 with all-new controls that allow you to dominate in the battle for air supremacy. New QB mechanics including body-relative throws and touch passes provide unprecedented depth and control while under center. Combined with a new risk/reward catch and pass-defend system, get ready for the biggest WOW moments in franchise history.

      KEY FEATURES

      New to Madden

      Battle for Air Supremacy

      Total Control Passing - Place the ball where only your receiver can get it with body-relative throws including high-point, low-point, back-shoulder, and the ever-popular touch pass. Become the ultimate dual-threat and terrorize defenses with new pressure avoidance and QB scramble controls.

      Receiver/Defender Controls - Dictate the outcome of each passing play while the ball is in the air for the first time ever in Madden. For receivers, go for the highlight reel with the ‘aggressive’ catch or move the chains with the ‘possession catch’. On defense, disrupt the outcome of each play using the new ‘play ball’ and ‘hit receiver’ mechanics. Receivers and defenders deliver the most authentic exchanges to date with new press and zone-chuck interactions, contextual hand-fighting, and a variety of 2-man interactions at the catch point including pass interference penalties, tip balls, knock outs and simultaneous possession catches.

      Playmaker Broadcast

      Integrated Broadcast Graphics – Your playmaker highlight reel has arrived with new player spotlights, dynamic goals and achievements, and innovative on-the-field cameras bringing you closer to the game than ever before. Making plays has never been this much fun and rewarding!

      GAME MODES

      Connected Franchise – Whether playing solo or online with friends, your quest to build an NFL dynasty comes complete with a brand new scouting and draft system as well as all-new dynamic goals throughout each game. Develop players with Game Prep and build your teams’ confidence through performance and front office transactions. Balance keeping players’ confidence up, to increase abilities and build player XP.

      Madden Ultimate Team – Build your ultimate team with your favorite NFL players from the past and present while dominating the opposition in head-to-head seasons, solo challenges, and more. Earn coins to buy packs through the online store, where you can trade and auction off items on the road to building the Ultimate Team. Engage with the NFL year round thanks to live content and service updates in the fastest growing mode in Madden.

      Skills Trainer – With 60+ tutorials and drills, Skills Trainer focuses on teaching the strategy behind different passing and run concepts, as well as how to play Madden for new users to the series. Fan favorite Gauntlet mode returns with all-new Boss Battles, Extra Life challenges and opportunities to jump or fall levels in a single play.

      UPDATE: Pre-order info added based on details posted on EA's site.

      "Madden NFL 16 is now available for pre-order at all major retailers, and fans who place their orders now will receive $15 in Ultimate Team content including 10 Pro Packs and a Playmaker Pack for use in Madden Ultimate Team (MUT). The Playmaker Pack grants fans with an Elite player who they can use to give their Ultimate Team an extra boost right out of the gate and start making the huge plays right away.

      Those looking for even more content can upgrade to the Deluxe Edition, which ups the ante with 36 Pro Packs and a Playmaker Pack, all for $69.99."
      I like to play these games from the point of view of a broadcaster/beat writer. So it's VERY VERY important that the game play itself, cpu vs cpu with as little input from me as possible. I very much like NOT KNOWING the outcome ahead of time. After my heart transplant, I have pretty bad hand tremors making manual input nearly impossible. Will this game allow me to do this, to play out the 2015 season like this? And this is also needed by me for ALL ps4 sports games.
      Last edited by Greg Putnam; 05-21-2015, 09:58 PM.

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      • capa
        Banned
        • Jul 2002
        • 5321

        #513
        Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

        Originally posted by Greg Putnam
        I like to play these games from the point of view of a broadcaster/beat writer. So it's VERY VERY important that the game play itself, cpu vs cpu with as little input from me as possible. I very much like NOT KNOWING the outcome ahead of time. After my heart transplant, I have pretty bad hand tremors making manual input nearly impossible. Will this game allow me to do this, to play out the 2015 season like this? And this is also needed by me for ALL ps4 sports games.
        I am a Coach mode only player but I also enjoy watching cpu vs cpu..especially with my classic teams roster set.

        I will tell you this...Madden was not made for cpu vs cpu...because the cpu AI is lacking in so many ways. They want you to play human vs human and preferably online. The issue is not only the cpu AI but also playbooks which are filled with plays that just cannot be executed correctly the way they are drawn up. The cpu will wind up using a very small subset of all plays, and you will often see games with very low scores and tons of punts.

        I am also hoping M16 is a better version so that those of us who enjoy Coach mode or cpu vs cpu can get some enjoyment out of this title finally.

        C

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        • SolidSquid
          MVP
          • Aug 2014
          • 3159

          #514
          Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

          Originally posted by capa
          I am a Coach mode only player but I also enjoy watching cpu vs cpu..especially with my classic teams roster set.

          I will tell you this...Madden was not made for cpu vs cpu...because the cpu AI is lacking in so many ways. They want you to play human vs human and preferably online. The issue is not only the cpu AI but also playbooks which are filled with plays that just cannot be executed correctly the way they are drawn up. The cpu will wind up using a very small subset of all plays, and you will often see games with very low scores and tons of punts.

          I am also hoping M16 is a better version so that those of us who enjoy Coach mode or cpu vs cpu can get some enjoyment out of this title finally.

          C
          While I'm an offline only guy I control my team and completely agree with you. The CPU AI is so boring, every team plays the same no matter the scheme/playbook. Play calling is very predictable, third and 12 you know there's an 80% chance the CPU runs a screen play. Teams that feature a read or triple option offense like the Redskins and 49ers barely even use those plays.

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          • 4thQtrStre5S
            MVP
            • Nov 2013
            • 3051

            #515
            Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

            Originally posted by capa
            I am a Coach mode only player but I also enjoy watching cpu vs cpu..especially with my classic teams roster set.

            I will tell you this...Madden was not made for cpu vs cpu...because the cpu AI is lacking in so many ways. They want you to play human vs human and preferably online. The issue is not only the cpu AI but also playbooks which are filled with plays that just cannot be executed correctly the way they are drawn up. The cpu will wind up using a very small subset of all plays, and you will often see games with very low scores and tons of punts.

            I am also hoping M16 is a better version so that those of us who enjoy Coach mode or cpu vs cpu can get some enjoyment out of this title finally.

            C

            I agree 100%... EA/Tiburon wants everyone to be playing online, Human v. Human...Therefore, little resources will be put into any sort of CPU A.I., playbooks and play calling...

            Essentially, we are being pushed in a fashion not unlike many linear games...Which is a bummer, I like open world/sand box games...

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            • Big FN Deal
              Banned
              • Aug 2011
              • 5993

              #516
              Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

              Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
              I agree 100%... EA/Tiburon wants everyone to be playing online, Human v. Human...Therefore, little resources will be put into any sort of CPU A.I., playbooks and play calling...

              Essentially, we are being pushed in a fashion not unlike many linear games...Which is a bummer, I like open world/sand box games...
              I disagree it's like other games, the difference being, while other companies push and have those type things in their games, right down to MUT type modes, they also offer other, just as well done, modes, unlike Madden. With Madden the other modes that they can't somehow directly leverage the gamer for money in some way, are woefully lacking/incomplete and it seems intentional. This business practice of leaving out and not fleshing out things enough to insure a buy of the next edition is way more prominent in Madden than other sports sims, from other companies.

              For example, some people were just discussing the playcalling AI and it seems rather odd that after implementing Custom Gameplans, which not only User v CPU players used but also I think they effected simmed games for any Franchise, access to creating/modifying them has since been removed/restricted.

              Madden is already options lite and the options they do have that can be used to attempt to customize the game don't function well, they don't want us making Madden into our game, they want to monetize us with their game.

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              • ODogg
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2003
                • 37953

                #517
                Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                I think this thread shows some of you guys simply wish madden to be a real simulation and it's never going to be. You want Project Cars and all you will ever get is Need for Speed.

                The sooner you either accept that and just play it as a game or simply give up I the series the better off you will be I think.

                I think my tipping point was about three years ago, I quit analyzing and trying to determine "what was wrong" and how it could be fixed and instead just play it like one would play a Mario game. I've been much happier with the product since then.


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                • SolidSquid
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 3159

                  #518
                  Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                  Originally posted by ODogg
                  I think this thread shows some of you guys simply wish madden to be a real simulation and it's never going to be. You want Project Cars and all you will ever get is Need for Speed.

                  The sooner you either accept that and just play it as a game or simply give up I the series the better off you will be I think.

                  I think my tipping point was about three years ago, I quit analyzing and trying to determine "what was wrong" and how it could be fixed and instead just play it like one would play a Mario game. I've been much happier with the product since then.


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                  I'm glad you found something that works for you but me and I'm sure others simply want a game that plays true to the sport. It's a video game first and foremost so we will never be able to have a "true simulation" as you call it. However is it unrealistic to expect real football strategies to work in the game? Is it unrealistic to expect the game to honor things such as weight, strength, and momentum?

                  Basically Id be happy if the fundamental chess match that the game of football really is was respected. The example I always use is calling a cover 3 defense and watching a tight end seam route burn you for a td bc your safety is in la la land, when in reality that's exactly the play cover 3 is designed to take away.

                  I see other games respect their respective sports while maintaining the fun of a video game, EA should be treated no differently than those companies. The only difference is EA holds all the cards in the football video game world and unfortunately for us competition is really the only thing that fosters innovation.

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                  • PeoplesChampGB
                    All Star
                    • May 2012
                    • 6003

                    #519
                    Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                    Working penalties would be nice, ODogg. I dont understand why they cant appease both crowds with options. Thats my only qualm.
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                    • jerwoods
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2997

                      #520
                      Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                      Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                      There definitely are other factors, but considering EA/Tiburon, I am giving the easiest method..LOL

                      The accuracy, according to EA is merely a location mechanic of where the ball will end up in a square target area; but lowering the short, medium and long accuracies does bring overall completion percentages into a realistic range..

                      I am going to try some more testing with Jay Cutler as the CPU QB...Editied his passing accuracies as follows:

                      SAC: 80
                      MAC: 68
                      DAC: 41

                      THA: 63

                      Cutler's lifetime throw accuracy is: 61.7...

                      Aaron Rodgers passing attributes will be adjusted also, as follows:

                      SAC: 80
                      MAC: 75
                      DAC: 40

                      THA: 65

                      Rodgers' lifetime Pass Accuracy is: 65.8%
                      this is a great idea but rodgers deep ball is underrated

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                      • StefJoeHalt
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 1058

                        #521
                        Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                        Play calling is a major issue..what's worse is that with a overhaul of the "star" system..or play calling percentages I believe CPU coach could come to life...now will it be perfect no..but I think if they took the time to redue this minor issue we would all be better off..I have checked the playbooks year after year and do not think it has been touch since they implement the "star" system..I would guess one week of a complete rework of this system would work..now that is just implementation..that is not scouting coaches etc..but simple solution would be to allow us the community do it..which we all know would be done...most play books have over 200 plays..and I was guess offensive side they only use 50-70 plays..defensive side is another issue..calling cover 0 1/3 of the time is crazy..now as an example..Gus Bradley is well known from his Seattle days and now Jag days to play conservative..but they send 5+ more then half the time....Gus Bradley is a plain cover 3 cover 1 high safety caller...(not all the time but this is his base)..I see cover 3 from the Jags maybe 15% and cover 1 high maybe 10%..if I'm lucky.. again just an example


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                        • johnnyg713
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                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1465

                          #522
                          Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                          With the new catching mechanics, I wonder if the user will be automatically switched to the receiver this year. Would only make sense to slow the game speed down a little to have the user react when the ball is in the air. Ball travel speed might also be slowed significantly

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                          • videogamelover
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 63

                            #523
                            Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                            the features sound cool and stuff but there's no point on getting hyped when only 5% of the features will be available on xbox 360 and Playstation 3 versions.

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                            • PeoplesChampGB
                              All Star
                              • May 2012
                              • 6003

                              #524
                              Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                              ^ might be time to upgrade.
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                              • timisone
                                Worst Gamer Ever
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 518

                                #525
                                Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                                How about editing rosters inside CCM? Weren't we told that this was being worked on?

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