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  • Brightline
    Banned
    • Jul 2013
    • 382

    #181
    Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

    Originally posted by jeremym480
    From what I can tell from threads here and on Twitter these are some issues that they acknowledged:

    Gameplay
    - Tuning update for Aggressive catches being overpowered
    - A fix for random Encroachment Penalties

    CFM
    - Ratings boost from drive goals with some players having ratings of 100+
    - Regression not working properly (mainly from o-lineman)
    - Rookies not adjusted to current roster (mainly inflated speed and deep accuracy)
    - Re-signing contracts being off... someone on Twitter claimed that Dez Bryant signed a 5 year deal for 2 mil/year.
    - Placing a player on IR no longer opens up a roster spot
    - QB's getting 15+ carries a game while simming

    Other
    - Custom playbooks not working online
    Thanks for explaining. I have bought Madden for 16 straight years and 19 times total, so maybe I am part of the problem but I also have the perspective to comment.

    This is all very unfortunate. I am not one to call people lazy or make assertions about things of which I have no knowledge. But the bottom line is that there are certain things that we need to accept.

    1) A decision was made a beginning with CCM to rebuild franchise mode, and the focus of that mode is not sim. That is not to say, they they wont make an effort to throw the sim crowd a bone or whatnot but sim is certainly not the goal. There are far too many examples I could give to prove this, but I think we all know it.

    2) The goal of CFM is to make a fun mode that is accessible to casual and new players, but also has something for the hardcore and sim crowd.

    3) CFM (and Madden in general) suffer from a lack of direction. For example, Year 1- Build CCM. Year 2-Add Owner Mode. Year 3-Build on Owner Mode. Year 4- De-emphasize Owner Mode.

    4) All games have bugs, but the only real additions to CFM this year were scouting and drive goals. Drive goals seem to have broken the game. And the incoming rookies will, in a few years, ruin the mode. This is not "buggy", this is a cataclysmic failure by any metric.

    5) The way this game was released is not acceptable.

    6) Either the Madden team is not big enough, dont have enough resources or, despite what I assume are their best efforts, cannot get the job done.

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    • RickyRozay
      Rookie
      • Oct 2012
      • 11

      #182
      Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

      Originally posted by SolidSquid
      Lol what? I don't get it
      Cuz thats the day this game becomes a paperweight/trade bait

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      • SolidSquid
        MVP
        • Aug 2014
        • 3159

        #183
        Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

        Originally posted by BTW
        Imagine if a concept like this was included with OTAs, training camp, and practice squads for developing players.

        I know it'll never happen, but wish they could take an entire year off and come back hard with Madden 18. Release a roster patch for next year's new players, but don't actually release a full game.

        B
        why can't we have this already?

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        • bkrich83
          Has Been
          • Jul 2002
          • 71572

          #184
          Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

          Originally posted by BTW
          Imagine if a concept like this was included with OTAs, training camp, and practice squads for developing players.

          I know it'll never happen, but wish they could take an entire year off and come back hard with Madden 18. Release a roster patch for next year's new players, but don't actually release a full game.

          B
          Practice squads would be huge for player development or stashing that rookie who doesn't fit in your roster right now but may in the future.

          As far as OTA's and Training Camp and that stuff, wouldn't care for it, but I know a lot of others would. Full disclosure I skipped the Spring Game stuff they had back in the old versions of NCAA as well.
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          • Rocky
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 6896

            #185
            Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

            Originally posted by CM Hooe
            Personally, I don't think its reasonable to declare the abject failure of a particular game design over a bug which will be gone in two weeks.
            Trust me man, there are a whole host of other reasons why I can "declare the abject failure of a game design" but I don't think they fall within the scope of this thread.

            But it's half sad, half hilarious that a developer would advise gamers to start their CFM's late because of things that many never wanted in the first place. It sucks in particular because this is Madden's greatest gameplay jump in a while.
            "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #186
              Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

              Originally posted by Brightline
              Thanks for explaining. I have bought Madden for 16 straight years and 19 times total, so maybe I am part of the problem but I also have the perspective to comment.

              This is all very unfortunate. I am not one to call people lazy or make assertions about things of which I have no knowledge. But the bottom line is that there are certain things that we need to accept.

              1) A decision was made a beginning with CCM to rebuild franchise mode, and the focus of that mode is not sim. That is not to say, they they wont make an effort to throw the sim crowd a bone or whatnot but sim is certainly not the goal. There are far too many examples I could give to prove this, but I think we all know it.

              2) The goal of CFM is to make a fun mode that is accessible to casual and new players, but also has something for the hardcore and sim crowd.

              3) CFM (and Madden in general) suffer from a lack of direction. For example, Year 1- Build CCM. Year 2-Add Owner Mode. Year 3-Build on Owner Mode. Year 4- De-emphasize Owner Mode.

              4) All games have bugs, but the only real additions to CFM this year were scouting and drive goals. Drive goals seem to have broken the game. And the incoming rookies will, in a few years, ruin the mode. This is not "buggy", this is a cataclysmic failure by any metric.

              5) The way this game was released is not acceptable.

              6) Either the Madden team is not big enough, dont have enough resources or, despite what I assume are their best efforts, cannot get the job done.
              A bone is being thrown and I doubt if it's the last one.

              Rex Dickson ‏@RexDEAFootball 3h3 hours ago
              @DAHARM Thanks for the feedback. Formation Subs is very high on our list of priorities moving forward.

              Not a matter of if, just when.

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              • PhillyPhanatic14
                MVP
                • Jun 2015
                • 4825

                #187
                Re: KolbeL (EA Dev) says to WAIT to start your CFM

                I'm all about supporting EA and this game and last year's game, but didn't they say that they had two guys working all year with the only task of "tuning" in franchise mode? And specifically tuning confidence? It's hard to believe that they never checked their depth charts during the game once throughout the whole year to see this issue... I'm playing with Marriota who gets like 500+ yards a game because his short and medium accuracy are over 100 in the game. Clearly a rookie shouldn't be doing that because Peyton Manning doesn't even do that. If these devs really spent the whole year tuning they should have caught this. Did they not learn from the sack issue last year?...

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                • Instant C1a55ic
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                  • 2957

                  #188
                  Re: KolbeL (EA Dev) says to WAIT to start your CFM

                  Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                  I'm all about supporting EA and this game and last year's game, but didn't they say that they had two guys working all year with the only task of "tuning" in franchise mode? And specifically tuning confidence? It's hard to believe that they never checked their depth charts during the game once throughout the whole year to see this issue... I'm playing with Marriota who gets like 500+ yards a game because his short and medium accuracy are over 100 in the game. Clearly a rookie shouldn't be doing that because Peyton Manning doesn't even do that. If these devs really spent the whole year tuning they should have caught this. Did they not learn from the sack issue last year?...
                  Let me ask you this, would you have known if it wasnt pointed out here? I sure wouldnt have known cause I honestly do not even do many subs.
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                  • RebelHog
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1022

                    #189
                    Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

                    Originally posted by jhigginsluckow
                    Does he mention how long we're going to have to wait? I doubt they are going to refund a month's worth of the price of the game even though we can't play it the way we should be able to for that month. And I doubt he's going to be willing to convince my bosses to switch my vacation I have coming up in a week so I can play my CFM after the patch.
                    When you start placing a 60 dollar video game ahead of your job situation, you really need to re-evaluate your life. Not trolling here, but wow.

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                    • rush02721
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 113

                      #190
                      Re: KolbeL (EA Dev) says to WAIT to start your CFM

                      I just came back from getting the game. With trade in of 3 games I was able to get the game, and preorder FIFA with a few bucks to spare. I'm disappointed that I can't start a CFM but glad I didn't really spend a dime on this game

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                      • Twinkie12
                        Rookie
                        • May 2015
                        • 63

                        #191
                        Re: KolbeL (EA Dev) says to WAIT to start your CFM

                        I bought the game fully knowing about the CFM issues. Im a big franchise mode guy, but I can keep myself busy playing MUT and online head to head. It really is unbelievable though that in game player's ratings jump into the 100's. I know nothing about software testing but this is so basic. This is nothing like a weird foul ball glitch at one stadium or a lack of fouls called. This is the majority of players playing at super human levels IN GAME during franchise mode. Like I said, unreal...

                        Can you imagine if light hitting middle infielders all of a sudden had 99 PWR and were bombing HR in the Show? Or if Michael Kidd-Gilchrist hit a goal of scoring 8 points and then his 3 PT rating went to 110? Those are the equivalents for other games.

                        As others have said too, it sucks cause in game it plays amazing. I'm still having a blast, but it sucks other people have to wait.

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                        • howboutdat
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1908

                          #192
                          Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          A bone is being thrown and I doubt if it's the last one.

                          Rex Dickson ‏@RexDEAFootball 3h3 hours ago
                          @DAHARM Thanks for the feedback. Formation Subs is very high on our list of priorities moving forward.

                          Not a matter of if, just when.
                          While i agree its a matter of when .Seems like every time i hear "going forward" from EA ,it literally means MAYBE next year. Dont get me wrong , while id like to see this fixed this year, since it hasnt worked right since i dont know when( why have something even in a game if its useless, beats me) but at this point its low on my poll of things they got to fix for 16.
                          Yup, i said it !



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                          • PhillyPhanatic14
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 4825

                            #193
                            Re: KolbeL (EA Dev) says to WAIT to start your CFM

                            Originally posted by Instant C1a55ic
                            Let me ask you this, would you have known if it wasnt pointed out here? I sure wouldnt have known cause I honestly do not even do many subs.
                            I could tell based on how ridiculous Marriota was playing. I believe I'm pretty good at Madden, but I shouldn't be breaking the single game yardage and TD records in back to back games on All-Pro with 5 minute quarters and with a rookie quarterback on the first day the game is released.

                            It's a weird bug because it affects everyone on your team. I have a backup d-lineman that never plays and has a rating of a 79 and he is an 89 in-game because of this.

                            It's not game-killing and I'll still play my CFM until they release the patch, but it seems weird that they kept making a point to say they had two guys specifically tuning franchise mode the entire year and here we are on Day 2 dealing with a major issue.

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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71572

                              #194
                              Re: KolbeL (EA Dev) says to WAIT to start your CFM

                              Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                              I could tell based on how ridiculous Marriota was playing. I believe I'm pretty good at Madden, but I shouldn't be breaking the single game yardage and TD records in back to back games on All-Pro with 5 minute quarters and with a rookie quarterback on the first day the game is released.

                              It's a weird bug because it affects everyone on your team. I have a backup d-lineman that never plays and has a rating of a 79 and he is an 89 in-game because of this.

                              It's not game-killing and I'll still play my CFM until they release the patch, but it seems weird that they kept making a point to say they had two guys specifically tuning franchise mode the entire year and here we are on Day 2 dealing with a major issue.
                              They haven't been able to reproduce it on less than 8 minute qtrs.
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                              • PhillyPhanatic14
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 4825

                                #195
                                Re: KolbeL (EA Dev) says to WAIT to start your CFM

                                Originally posted by bkrich83
                                They haven't been able to reproduce it on less than 8 minute qtrs.
                                They might want to try harder then cuz I'm pretty sure Marriota's short and medium accuracy are not around 105....

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