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  • kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27738

    #316
    Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

    Originally posted by Sooners319
    I think we can point out how often that a real QB will escape pressure and take off and acknowledge that it happens at a significantly higher rate than what you see in M18.

    I mean, if we wanted to go that route (which I'm sure wasn't your exact intention), how often to we see QB's sit in the pocket for 5+ seconds until a sack occurs?


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    Please see the first paragraph in my post that you quoted.

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    • Sooners319
      Banned
      • Aug 2017
      • 4

      #317
      Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

      Originally posted by kehlis
      Please see the first paragraph in my post that you quoted.


      I see that and I also should have asked what the day one patch brings that will alleviate the issues? Not saying they won't, I'm legitimately curious and hoping that it does.


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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #318
        Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

        Originally posted by young22
        It doesn't happen every game on M12. But it will never ever happen on 17, or 18 from what I've seen. On 12, guys move, and will take off.

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        That's an assumption not a fact.

        If we want to help make the game better, we need to operate with known variables and obstacles. Not a hypothesis based nothing that the devs can recreate or test.

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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #319
          Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

          Originally posted by Sooners319
          I see that and I also should have asked what the day one patch brings that will alleviate the issues? Not saying they won't, I'm legitimately curious and hoping that it does.


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          They haven't said specifics but with the videos I've seen from those who are playing with the day 1 patch the problem isn't nearly as prevalent as it seemed with earlier videos.

          (I'm on ps4 so so I'm stuck with waiting until Thursday)

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          • bcruise
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2004
            • 23274

            #320
            Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

            Originally posted by young22
            It doesn't happen every game on M12. But it will never ever happen on 17, or 18 from what I've seen. On 12, guys move, and will take off.

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            I can say factually that the CPU AI in '18 is capable of taking off towards open space and running 25+ yards (in the PS4 day 0 patched version). Probably a lot more as well, but....it was Carson Wentz. Maybe Cam or Russell throw out some jukes to actually go the distance. Who knows? That part's all hypothetical.

            Does it do it as much as most of us would like? Probably not. But for me at least as long as the threat is there it will force me to gameplan for it.

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            • D81SKINS
              MVP
              • Dec 2014
              • 1671

              #321
              Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              That doesnt matter to me given that we can edit the rosters.
              See that's game to game, I'm talking about them adjusting during the game.
              DPP was fluid during the game, On 25.
              Unless, you can edit traits during the game??

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              • D81SKINS
                MVP
                • Dec 2014
                • 1671

                #322
                Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                DPP started on m12, M25 also has it.



                Now that video gets me pumped to play either 12, 13, or 25!
                They all kept DPP in the game.
                Bring this back w/ T&R trait(rarley, sometimes, often).
                Along w/ a better gameplan for the CPU Teams, we would have something special.
                Last edited by D81SKINS; 08-20-2017, 04:03 PM.

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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23441

                  #323
                  Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                  Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                  wow, he could have ran for like 50 yards. terrible AI from the QB

                  Sadly at least in EA Access version, I see some form of this happen at least once or twice per a half every game I played. It is the same bad logic that happened in the old Madden and NCAA football games.

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                  • young22
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 2083

                    #324
                    Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                    Originally posted by bcruise
                    I can say factually that the CPU AI in '18 is capable of taking off towards open space and running 25+ yards (in the PS4 day 0 patched version). Probably a lot more as well, but....it was Carson Wentz. Maybe Cam or Russell throw out some jukes to actually go the distance. Who knows? That part's all hypothetical.

                    Does it do it as much as most of us would like? Probably not. But for me at least as long as the threat is there it will force me to gameplan for it.
                    We'll see. From what I've seen, CPU QB AI isn't very good. I have yet to play the game though, I've just watched gameplay.

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                    • young22
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 2083

                      #325
                      Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                      Originally posted by D81SKINS
                      DPP started on m12, M25 also has it.



                      Now that video gets me pumped to play either 12, 13, or 25!
                      They all kept DPP in the game.
                      Bring this back w/ T&R trait(rarley, sometimes, often).
                      Along w/ a better gameplan for the CPU Teams, we would have something special.
                      Madden 12 was great. Has some issues with OP one handed picks, and the old issue of wideouts not attacking the ball much, as aggressive catch didn't exist yet, but I've been playing it all day, and it still holds up with good sliders. Players feel more unique.

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                      • bcruise
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #326
                        Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                        Originally posted by young22
                        We'll see. From what I've seen, CPU QB AI isn't very good. I have yet to play the game though, I've just watched gameplay.

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                        I wasn't commenting on whether or not it was good - there's no way I can do that from just watching streams and videos. I was simply saying I have seen the QB take off and run - I posted the example I was referring to in this thread on the previous page. And I know that the settings for that were All-Pro default sim, played on the PS4 Pro with the day 0 patch.

                        The frequency is the problem, it's not that it won't run period.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #327
                          Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                          Originally posted by D81SKINS
                          See that's game to game, I'm talking about them adjusting during the game.
                          DPP was fluid during the game, On 25.
                          Unless, you can edit traits during the game??
                          I'm not a big fan of in game adjustments there. If a QB is bad at picking up the blitz, he may be somewhat more aware of it but it doesnt mean that his ability to avoid a sack will change much during the game.

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                          • bad_philanthropy
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 12167

                            #328
                            Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                            I want this to be a possibility without it also breaking the game. It's simply a variable I don't ever have to consider.

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                            • Millennium
                              Franchise Streamer
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 9889

                              #329
                              Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                              I'm getting ready to go live. We'll be doing a lot of CFM and vs CPU if you want to see this in action on the PS4 Pro. I'll be looking specifically at the QB AWR as well.

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                              • Gotmadskillzson
                                Live your life
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 23441

                                #330
                                Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                                Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                                I want this to be a possibility without it also breaking the game. It's simply a variable I don't ever have to consider.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMq4wKl3xl8
                                Haven't saw running like that in Madden from a QB since Madden 12. It would be nice, very nice.

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