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  • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    MVP
    • Dec 2009
    • 4682

    #346
    Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

    Originally posted by Houston
    I have played madden for a long time over 20 years in fact.

    Anyways not claiming to be the madden best player ir tournament worthy, but I have done rosters and sliders/settings for years as well.

    I know how Madden works as far as settings and sliders go and I dont play rank matches or Play Now all my games are played and tested inside CFM only.

    I really didnt have issues with how the game played from MADDEN 17, 18 and 19 with my own setup my sliders fixed coverage it was realistic and tough. Even had penalties at a realistic rate as I play on 15 mins and 15 runoff.

    Anyways during the trial EA access I liked the pass rush, pass coverage then, but I can tell all of you right now on 8/02/19 thats pass coverage is broke.

    I have tried parity scale adjusting, several variations of sliders like pass coverage from 65, 85 and even 100 doesnt tighten it up at all.

    Parity scale from 25 , 45, 85 and even 100 does nothing to close the gap. Pass reaction as well adjusted it. The thing with pass reaction this year lower u go the harder it is to run, but dies nothing for pass coverage.

    So I thought what can I do now to close the time a QB has to maybe stip some of the at ease passing going on now?

    Well since pass rush disappeared for me since trial games I decided drop pash block at first to 15 then it got a lil better, so tried 0 and again helps but still u complete passes at ease blocking holding up at 0?

    Keep in mind ive tested default all pro and default all madden and pass coverage on both was easy WR coming down eith ball eith 3 defenders right there, u even see players LB, SS etc standing and not going for ball now.

    So trying to adjust sliders as i always do with my usual numbers abd no matter what u try nothings going to fix the current issues with pass coverage, pass rush and players looking lost.
    I actually got some zone coverage improvement with adjusting reaction time. Guys were closer to the ball when it was caught then prior to the adjustment, sometimes making a play on it before the ball got there. Coincidence? Maybe.



    Run defense, however, probably got a bit too good.
    Originally posted by Therebelyell626
    I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
    https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

    Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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    • Jimbo12308
      Rookie
      • Aug 2014
      • 177

      #347
      Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

      Originally posted by dreadnok89
      lolol and i couldnt get around to paying EA 60 dollars this years. you clowns still buy this garbage of a game and talk on this board like it matters lolol
      Can a moderator ban this person please?

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      • Broncos86
        Orange and Blue!
        • May 2009
        • 5505

        #348
        Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

        Originally posted by Rob9874
        Can someone translate this for me?

        Sure, I'll take a stab.

        Gotta user that up fam. I been playing Madden since 2002 with Culpepper on the cover...I ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS usered the RE...this year I've been playing MLB or Slot CB because the CPU can't handle it.
        "You need to take control of the player, my friend. I have been playing Madden since 2002 when Daunte Culpepper was on the cover. I have always, and I mean always, controlled the RE. This year, however, I've been controlling the MLB or the slot CB because the CPU cannot properly handle when I do so."

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        • bucky60
          Banned
          • Jan 2008
          • 3288

          #349
          Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

          Originally posted by bkrich83
          Blaming you for the game? Not sure where you got that. I'm blaming you for adding nothing to the thread and derailing it. No one got bashed here for anything.

          Posters like yourself are why OS gets a bad rep. Your lack of self awareness while becoming the norm here, is still sad.

          Go back and look. It was 4thqtrs smart alec comment that started this entire sidetrack. Originally this guy had said he would like examples of the good coverage but understands if 4thqtr didn't have time to make videos. The post seemed reasonable, only to have 4thqtr come back with a smart alec, stupid comment about free work.

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          • 4thQtrStre5S
            MVP
            • Nov 2013
            • 3051

            #350
            Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

            Originally posted by bucky60
            Go back and look. It was 4thqtrs smart alec comment that started this entire sidetrack. Originally this guy had said he would like examples of the good coverage but understands if 4thqtr didn't have time to make videos. The post seemed reasonable, only to have 4thqtr come back with a smart alec, stupid comment about free work.
            You okay? You seem bent for no reason. Another person said they were not going to do work for free. Yet wanted others to make videos for him to view.

            If you have an issue with me, private message me. else learn to accept opposing opinions like an adult.

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            • bucky60
              Banned
              • Jan 2008
              • 3288

              #351
              Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

              Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
              You okay? You seem bent for no reason. Another person said they were not going to do work for free. Yet wanted others to make videos for him to view.

              If you have an issue with me, private message me. else learn to accept opposing opinions like an adult.

              Look, mine was an adult comment. He clearly said in his post that he very much understands if you don't have time to make videos, just like he doesn't have time to make videos.

              Accept opposing opinions like an adult? I wasn't giving an opposing opinion or commenting on your opposing opinion. All I did was point out that he clearly stated he very much understands if you don't have time to create videos. And you came back with a smart alec comment. Just like you just did with me.

              Maybe you should take your own advice.

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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #352
                Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                Can I ask why stuff that is brought up from over a week ago ever brought up again? It just re-introduces stuff that has already been discussed, brought up and over with.

                Everyone else has moved on.

                Time to get the thread back to the original topic.

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                • 4thQtrStre5S
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 3051

                  #353
                  Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                  Originally posted by bucky60
                  Look, mine was an adult comment. He clearly said in his post that he very much understands if you don't have time to make videos, just like he doesn't have time to make videos.

                  Accept opposing opinions like an adult? I wasn't giving an opposing opinion or commenting on your opposing opinion. All I did was point out that he clearly stated he very much understands if you don't have time to create videos. And you came back with a smart alec comment. Just like you just did with me.

                  Maybe you should take your own advice.
                  He very clearly stated he was not willing to do something for free for another person or entity. ie create videos.

                  I did nothing to you but respond to your misinformation. Obviosuly if you felt my comments were "smart alec" you have some issue. And it must really dig into you since its been at least a week since that portion of this thread was active.

                  The post u think ur referencing is on page 14. The account is also banned, soooo....
                  Last edited by 4thQtrStre5S; 08-05-2019, 06:49 PM.

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                  • 4thQtrStre5S
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3051

                    #354
                    Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    Can I ask why stuff that is brought up from over a week ago ever brought up again? It just re-introduces stuff that has already been discussed, brought up and over with.

                    Everyone else has moved on.

                    Time to get the thread back to the original topic.
                    Exactly. Thank you. He should private message me instead of commenting about me without provocation on a topic over a week old.

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                    • GameBreaker35
                      Rookie
                      • May 2012
                      • 382

                      #355
                      Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                      I’ve been checking Twitter to see what the developers are responding to. I don’t see any mention or response from Clint to pass coverage criticism. I know there are a few people who’ve shared videos here and from my online league.

                      Quarters isn’t following the rules that were published by Anthony White last year. Cover 3 match is a hot mess against trips. Off-Man is just unplayable.

                      I’m really nervous that this may not get fixed. It’s a HUGE blemish in an other wise fun game.




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                      • Houston
                        MVP
                        • May 2003
                        • 4724

                        #356
                        Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                        Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                        You okay? You seem bent for no reason. Another person said they were not going to do work for free. Yet wanted others to make videos for him to view.

                        If you have an issue with me, private message me. else learn to accept opposing opinions like an adult.
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                        • Rmiok222
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 3129

                          #357
                          Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                          Originally posted by Broncos86
                          Sure, I'll take a stab.



                          "You need to take control of the player, my friend. I have been playing Madden since 2002 when Daunte Culpepper was on the cover. I have always, and I mean always, controlled the RE. This year, however, I've been controlling the MLB or the slot CB because the CPU cannot properly handle when I do so."


                          Lol[emoji23] that was great


                          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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                          • xCoachDx
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 1295

                            #358
                            Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                            Originally posted by GameBreaker35
                            I’ve been checking Twitter to see what the developers are responding to. I don’t see any mention or response from Clint to pass coverage criticism. I know there are a few people who’ve shared videos here and from my online league.

                            Quarters isn’t following the rules that were published by Anthony White last year. Cover 3 match is a hot mess against trips. Off-Man is just unplayable.

                            I’m really nervous that this may not get fixed. It’s a HUGE blemish in an other wise fun game.




                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports


                            I’ve yet to find any way to make pass coverage functional against the CPU. It’s driving me insane. Like you said, game seems to really have a lot of potential.


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                            • phillyfan23
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 2309

                              #359
                              Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                              Originally posted by xCoachDx
                              I’ve yet to find any way to make pass coverage functional against the CPU. It’s driving me insane. Like you said, game seems to really have a lot of potential.


                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


                              I think this is a bit hyperbolic....I just played the bears and shut them down 27-6 on all pro difficulty with sliders slightly tilted FOR the cpu and Intercepted Trubisky 3 times. He only passed for 200 yards as well.

                              I do agree that pass coverage needs to be improved, especially the running the wrong way part, but as a human player, you should still dominate a weak cpu passing offense with a good rated defensive team and vice versa. Eagles defense are pretty good, but not anywhere near elite.

                              If I were to guesstimate, maybe from 10 completions, one is a result due to bad coverage mechanics. A game on average has 20 completions per team....so 4 “broken” completions per game for both teams is not overly critical.

                              Go to practice mode....pick the play which you can recreate this ( a play where TE runs a short in route) set the Cpu on random and see how many times you can take advantage of this play. I actually did this and can pretty much gauge how often it would occur in game.






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                              • bucky60
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 3288

                                #360
                                Re: Pass Coverage is STILL so broken

                                Originally posted by roadman
                                Can I ask why stuff that is brought up from over a week ago ever brought up again? It just re-introduces stuff that has already been discussed, brought up and over with.

                                Everyone else has moved on.

                                Time to get the thread back to the original topic.
                                It was my first time going through the thread and I wasn't looking at post dates.

                                Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                                He very clearly stated he was not willing to do something for free for another person or entity. ie create videos.

                                I did nothing to you but respond to your misinformation. Obviosuly if you felt my comments were "smart alec" you have some issue. And it must really dig into you since its been at least a week since that portion of this thread was active.

                                The post u think ur referencing is on page 14. The account is also banned, soooo....
                                My post wasn't misinformation. Go back and look. In his post responding to you, he does clearly state that he very much understands if you don't have time to make videos. So he wasn't demanding that you make them.

                                Your response to me was

                                "else learn to accept opposing opinions like an adult"

                                Which isn't "just responding". It's a smart alec comment. Take your own advice.

                                Like I mentioned to roadman, it was my first time going through the thread and I wasn't looking at posts dates.

                                Him/her being banned has no bearing on what your response was to him.

                                EDIT:
                                In his post to you -
                                If you don't have time to record, trust me, i understand.

                                Your statement back -
                                Funny thing is, he wishes for me to do work for him, for free.. smh

                                Take your own advice and take responses like an adult.
                                Last edited by bucky60; 08-06-2019, 09:49 AM.

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