X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

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  • oneamongthefence
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    • Apr 2009
    • 5683

    #16
    Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

    I'm getting used to dealing with pass rushers with Mack in my division. It's nice. It's also pretty easy to get defensive guys out of their zone. Having to move the ball a little is all it takes.

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    • Executor
      Pro
      • Aug 2012
      • 549

      #17
      Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

      Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
      Some of them definitely are gimmicks, some of them are good. There was no need for ones like the enforcer. We have hit power, tackle ratings as well as a big hit and ball strip skill. We definitely didn’t need an enforcer X factor on top of all of that lol.


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      According to its own description, Enforcer should have a completely different impact than what it actually does right now. If EA finds a way to get rid of the fumbles all Enforcers now seem to cause, there would definitely be a place for what Enforcers were by default meant to do on the field.

      However, it's quite obvious that people's experience with Enforcers varies from player to player. I had nowhere near as excessive issues with Enforcers as other people here seem to have, and I am not alone.
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      • jsteele14
        Rookie
        • Jun 2015
        • 410

        #18
        Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

        Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
        Some of them definitely are gimmicks, some of them are good. There was no need for ones like the enforcer. We have hit power, tackle ratings as well as a big hit and ball strip skill. We definitely didn’t need an enforcer X factor on top of all of that lol.


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        I think the Enforcer trait can be really good if they just make two slight adjustments.

        1. The ability should not be that the tackler cannot miss a big hit. It should be that the tackle probability of a big hit is the same as the tackle probability of a conservative tackle. So there will still be some missed tackles. At this time, you would be crazy not to big hit every time because the tackle ability is higher than if I conservative tackle with the same player.

        2. The hit power needs to be lower for at least some of the Enforcers. Collins's 93 hit power combined with big hits every time is what causes the constant fumbles. Lower the hit power and you do not have such an issue.

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        • SFNiners816
          Pro
          • Aug 2008
          • 616

          #19
          Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

          The apprentice abilities that allow to you use the extra hot routes are by far my favorite abilities. The HB hot routes are my favorite. As a huge west coast offense guy, its awesome being able to dial up a Texas route and a flat route. I went all out to acquire Christian McCaffrey in my Niners franchise just to have this ability.

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          • Broncos86
            Orange and Blue!
            • May 2009
            • 5505

            #20
            Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

            In Madden 19, I actually traded Von Miller away in my CFM because he just wasn't worth having around. That salary to watch him struggle against single blocking all game long? Nah. Traded him for some sweet draft picks.

            Madden 20, he's invaluable. He changes the dynamic of my defense. So does a guy like Chris Harris Jr. And seeing those guys? Yeah. I also feel it with offensive linemen. Those X-factor guys just shut down average players on the line.

            Yeah, I agree that in some scenarios it's OP. But I'll take some OP issues that can be ironed out over players all being the same. Stars are stars now.

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            • BTG
              Banned
              • Jun 2003
              • 577

              #21
              Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

              Originally posted by UnderRatedCoast
              You are actually wrong about being wrong. It is way overpowered. Seahawks have a SS with the hit stick ability and whatever Bobby Wagner has...8 forced fumbles in one game, and that's with an x-factor RB. It's to the point where I won't hand the ball off when I play them, and on the rare occasion that I do I try and jump on the ground before I get hit sticked and fumble. Last game I played them I had 8 rushing attempts and 3 fumbles (all lost fumbles because the offensive guys don't scramble for the ball). My running back has more fumbles than any TEAM in the league. Pressing the secure ball button does nothing, changing the fumble sliders does nothing.
              Go to coaching adjustments.
              Conservative running setting helps with the fumbles against monster defensivemen

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              • inkcil
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 5253

                #22
                Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                Originally posted by UnderRatedCoast
                You are actually wrong about being wrong. It is way overpowered. Seahawks have a SS with the hit stick ability and whatever Bobby Wagner has...8 forced fumbles in one game, and that's with an x-factor RB. It's to the point where I won't hand the ball off when I play them, and on the rare occasion that I do I try and jump on the ground before I get hit sticked and fumble. Last game I played them I had 8 rushing attempts and 3 fumbles (all lost fumbles because the offensive guys don't scramble for the ball). My running back has more fumbles than any TEAM in the league. Pressing the secure ball button does nothing, changing the fumble sliders does nothing.
                I took the Cardinals to Seattle in the Rain and Wagner destroyed me! He forced 3 or 4 fumbles and was just a beast. The way he played he should have been on the cover of the game, LOL.
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                • Fredette
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 305

                  #23
                  Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                  Maybe it depends on personal gameplay style...but for me, guys like von Miller or Khalil Mack are just overpowered freaks....100 Sacks, but can't play smart defense, feels arcade....This guys break every sack record like it's nothing...poorly executed and just a lost feature from older madden editions (i think it's stolen from PS2 era)

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                  • jsteele14
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 410

                    #24
                    Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                    Originally posted by inkcil
                    I took the Cardinals to Seattle in the Rain and Wagner destroyed me! He forced 3 or 4 fumbles and was just a beast. The way he played he should have been on the cover of the game, LOL.
                    Try going in and dropping Wagner's hit power down as much as you can before it drops his overall rating. Hopefully you can drop it down to around 85 or so.

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                    • Giants4Life
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 114

                      #25
                      Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                      Superstar abilities are a joke in CFM.
                      They randomly turn on for the cpu when they didn’t do anything to earn it

                      Every time Rodgers has the ball no matter what he’s in the zone
                      Last edited by Giants4Life; 08-15-2019, 03:53 PM.

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                      • CT Pitbull
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 1683

                        #26
                        Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                        Originally posted by sinthros
                        Hit stick/pass rush ones are OP in my opinion. Other than that, yes, I like the concept of them a lot. Adds more personality. Khalil Mack feels like Khalil Mack.

                        I LOVE that Khalil Mack is a monster but I hate that the AI never adjusts when he is in the zone. Every game he has at least 6 sacks which kills the immersion for me. I have to control him myself to keep him from wrecking the ai at times. I have been trying all kinds of sliders to even it out a bit.

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                        • Therebelyell626
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 2892

                          #27
                          Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                          Originally posted by Giants4Life
                          Superstar abilities are a joke in CFM.
                          They randomly turn on for the cpu when they didn’t do anything to earn it

                          Every time Rodgers has the ball no matter what he’s in the zone
                          Once again here you are in another thread over exaggerating and spreading mis-information. I have played against Rodgers plenty of times and he is not in the zone "no matter what". There are a clear set of circumstances that are required for him to get in the zone. Just because you do not understand something does not mean it's not working as intended. If you are having trouble keeping him out of the zone I recommend bringing pressure or hanging your defense as it is extremely easy to knock players out of the zone

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                          • Broncos86
                            Orange and Blue!
                            • May 2009
                            • 5505

                            #28
                            Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                            Originally posted by Giants4Life
                            Superstar abilities are a joke in CFM.
                            They randomly turn on for the cpu when they didn’t do anything to earn it

                            Every time Rodgers has the ball no matter what he’s in the zone
                            You're likely just not paying attention to what happened for that to trigger.

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                            • Giants4Life
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 114

                              #29
                              Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                              Nope... I was paying attention. He was in the zone the entire game.
                              After 3 sacks and incomplete passes. He started the game in the zone and came out of the half in the zone.

                              So "once again" I am not exaggerating

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #30
                                Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                                I thought on most Sunday's, Rodgers is in the zone, unless he is playing on a fractured leg.

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