X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

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  • BjarkeK
    Rookie
    • Apr 2015
    • 9

    #61
    Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

    Do anyone know, why the superstar x factors dissapear whenever I control a team? Just started a franchise with the Jets, and in a game, the other team have superstar x factors, but Bell is downgraded to just a Superstar. Samething with the falcons, Jones is just a superstar in game, but the Vikings have two superstar x factor players. In the team selection menu before the game, they were listed as x Factor-olayers

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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #62
      Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

      After spending extended time with the game I'm decidedly mixed on x factors but leaning towards not liking them.

      There are a few abilities that are overpowered and arcadey (automatic hitstick guys) but many of them are good and force me to actually gameplan around guys.

      But the problem I have is a huge one and one that I have been harping on for years -- the dumb AI. The AI does not change anything regardless of who it plays. It calls the same plays and never make adjustments. You have an X Factor pass rusher? Thats fine, lets empty the backfield and go with a 5 man protection. Is that Earl Thomas back there? This seems like a good time to throw his way into double coverage. Oh look at that x factor WR that wins against single coverage, lets play him straight up.

      Forget X factors, I play with the Ravens and would you like to guess how many times the AI has put a spy or QB contain on Lamar Jackson? I could probably get 200 yards rushing with him just by cheesing the computer every game.

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      • nickyb6
        Banned
        • Aug 2017
        • 134

        #63
        Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

        So I'm asking in this thread because i see its active and this has a lot to do with gameplay so with that said. Is this game worth it for a franchise guy? Is the gameplay that much better with the X factors? Is the little additions to franchise worth buying it? If some of y'all could let me know with a few reasons as to buy it or not that would be greatly appreciated!!

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        • ggsimmonds
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2009
          • 11235

          #64
          Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

          Originally posted by nickyb6
          So I'm asking in this thread because i see its active and this has a lot to do with gameplay so with that said. Is this game worth it for a franchise guy? Is the gameplay that much better with the X factors? Is the little additions to franchise worth buying it? If some of y'all could let me know with a few reasons as to buy it or not that would be greatly appreciated!!
          It depends.

          When was the last Madden you purchased? How much enjoyment do you get or how important are the out of game franchise elements?

          My short answer is that gameplay is as good as its ever been, but franchise is as stale as its ever been.

          The scenario engine at the moment is a dud that adds very little to franchise. X Factor abilities are a mixed bag. They make playing a game more enjoyable, but over the course of a franchise issues become apparent to the detriment of the mode (once you build your team and have some X ability guys the short coming in the game's AI is a huge blight).

          Its a matter of preference, and the relative ratio of importance between gameplay and franchise depth/immersion. Lean more towards gameplay, worth a buy. More of a immersive front office type experience skip it.

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          • nickyb6
            Banned
            • Aug 2017
            • 134

            #65
            Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

            Originally posted by ggsimmonds
            It depends.

            When was the last Madden you purchased? How much enjoyment do you get or how important are the out of game franchise elements?

            My short answer is that gameplay is as good as its ever been, but franchise is as stale as its ever been.

            The scenario engine at the moment is a dud that adds very little to franchise. X Factor abilities are a mixed bag. They make playing a game more enjoyable, but over the course of a franchise issues become apparent to the detriment of the mode (once you build your team and have some X ability guys the short coming in the game's AI is a huge blight).

            Its a matter of preference, and the relative ratio of importance between gameplay and franchise depth/immersion. Lean more towards gameplay, worth a buy. More of a immersive front office type experience skip it.
            I last got Madden 19 but HATED IT. BTW Thanks for the response. I like immersion in franchise, but gameplay is king to me. Anything that adds something to franchise even its little is ok for me. I think maddens franchise is deeper the say MLB for example so...but as far as gameplay how would you say it is?

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            • ggsimmonds
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jan 2009
              • 11235

              #66
              Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

              Originally posted by nickyb6
              I last got Madden 19 but HATED IT. BTW Thanks for the response. I like immersion in franchise, but gameplay is king to me. Anything that adds something to franchise even its little is ok for me. I think maddens franchise is deeper the say MLB for example so...but as far as gameplay how would you say it is?
              Gameplay is incredible in my opinion, but it is still an incremental improvement over 19. If you hated 19 I don't think it is different enough to change your opinion.

              Why did you hate it?

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              • Giants4Life
                Rookie
                • Aug 2018
                • 114

                #67
                Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                Originally posted by nickyb6
                So I'm asking in this thread because i see its active and this has a lot to do with gameplay so with that said. Is this game worth it for a franchise guy? Is the gameplay that much better with the X factors? Is the little additions to franchise worth buying it? If some of y'all could let me know with a few reasons as to buy it or not that would be greatly appreciated!!
                As a fellow franchise guy I would say this years is definitely not worth it. The only reason I keep playing is because Im an NFL fan and a gamer and this is it, the only game in town.

                Here is whats broken in this years franchise...

                - Scenario engine is super repetitive and doesn't add much to the game at all also just boring (yes there are trying to fix this but right now its a very weak implementation and just more clicks.)

                - Xfactors - I have turned them off just to see if this game will be better. this may be fun in head to head online but its just a confusing mess. Why does my Pocket QB need Leap frog ability?

                Oline- blocking somehow is worse than ever

                - Fog of War - Broken, even after patch.

                - Schemes are nerfed and were more important last year. Yes less schemes in 19 but the fits mattered

                - Create a Draft Class - Broken and worse then last year. Basically unusable in PS4 at least. Every scouted player scouts as an early first round talent and then drafts as a #0 in class.

                - Edit a player is weird that you have to exit roster and come back to see any changes

                - Ratings spread - They didn't do enough, better to use a custom roster from the community like TFG. But community file imports have a bunch of bugs right now

                Zone coverage- broken and might as well never call it

                - Removal of the huddle - destroys the "No Huddle" experience and I have had some very weird, buggy stuff happen at the end of half/games. Plus takes the fun out of hurrying up to offense.

                Bugs - Very buggy right now with any August/September Madden Experience

                - Players heads - Many of the real player faces are off. Heads are either too big or too small. This was better last year.


                Whats better??

                - Contracts - Everyone is just more expensive and more inline with todays but still not a real contract experience.

                - Regression - Kinda, I mean no one goes backward, but thats not realistic either. They should have kept Slow and Quick as well. Superstar and superstar xfactor is wonky to me

                Gameplay*– Gameplay isnt as bad as it was last year but still run by animations

                RPOs - Cool that they are in the game

                Lighting - Much much better this year. In fact this may be the main reason I dont go back to 19 and keep trying to like 20
                Last edited by Giants4Life; 08-26-2019, 06:36 PM.

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                • Grey_Osprey
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 753

                  #68
                  Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                  Originally posted by Mackrel829
                  I did this today and it played out pretty nice.

                  Superstar players are able to separate themselves from others with their superstar abilities, but they not cheesy or overpowered like X-Factors.

                  It feels like a nice balance to me. It didn't take too long to turn off all of the X-Factors, I'll just have to keep an eye on rookies entering the league with hidden dev traits.
                  I tweeted Clint and a couple others if it would be possible to seperate x-factor and superstar traits so people would have the option to turn them off seperately. I'm not expecting a reply. Lol

                  The more I play, the more I'm against x-factor. I like the concept, but some of it comes off as gimmicky and to arcade for my liking. And the fact the cpu ai doesn't seem to acknowledge those players on the field just doesn't make sense.

                  To each their own.

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                  • bcruise
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23274

                    #69
                    Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                    Originally posted by Grey_Osprey
                    I tweeted Clint and a couple others if it would be possible to seperate x-factor and superstar traits so people would have the option to turn them off seperately. I'm not expecting a reply. Lol

                    The more I play, the more I'm against x-factor. I like the concept, but some of it comes off as gimmicky and to arcade for my liking. And the fact the cpu ai doesn't seem to acknowledge those players on the field just doesn't make sense.

                    To each their own.

                    Sent from my SM-S727VL using Operation Sports mobile app
                    Just so you know, you won't receive a reply today.



                    I think it has something to do with today being the day of the tragedy last year.

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                    • Giants4Life
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 114

                      #70
                      Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                      I have also noticed ... more than any other year ...The DDA is real

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                      • Grey_Osprey
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 753

                        #71
                        Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                        Originally posted by bcruise
                        Just so you know, you won't receive a reply today.



                        I think it has something to do with today being the day of the tragedy last year.
                        Yea, I saw Clint tweet about being away from Twitter for a bit. I just figured I wouldn't get a response 'cause I'm a Twitter nobody. Lol.

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                        • TurboTitan
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 805

                          #72
                          Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                          I turn the "big hitter" trait off on everyone and lower the hit power in sliders. Takes some time, but it removed the crazy every tackle is a hit stick problem. Worth a try if its really bugging you.

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                          • nickyb6
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 134

                            #73
                            Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                            Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                            Gameplay is incredible in my opinion, but it is still an incremental improvement over 19. If you hated 19 I don't think it is different enough to change your opinion.

                            Why did you hate it?
                            I just thought the gameplay was awful....ratings didn't matter and I felt anytime a CB played press coverage 10 out of 10 times they got burnt. I just didn't like the feel of it.

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                            • JayhawkerStL
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3644

                              #74
                              Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                              Originally posted by nickyb6
                              I just thought the gameplay was awful....ratings didn't matter and I felt anytime a CB played press coverage 10 out of 10 times they got burnt. I just didn't like the feel of it.
                              You won't like 20.

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                              • stinkubus
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 1463

                                #75
                                Re: X-Factor and Superstar abilities: I was wrong.

                                FWIW press is much, much better in this year's game.

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