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  • alston4659
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    • Sep 2017
    • 360

    #106
    Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

    I like that style of play calling and after looking at your playbook I'm very interested in creating this for the ps4. Only thing I may have trouble with is the gameplan.
    Originally posted by edgevoice
    Unfortunately, I only have the capability of uploading on XBox. This past week I've done a lot of new work and made several additions to my original custom playbook and gameplan, which I will eventually get around to adding to community files. At present, I keep getting kicked out.

    The main reason I uploaded my books is so that folks who were having difficulties getting started could take mine to use as a skeleton. My style of play is mostly predicated on timing based passing, with a mix of zone and power run concepts. I realize this is a bit old-fashioned, but it works for me.

    I have embraced some of the concepts being run out of the spread offense, so I've added some base pistol and pistol spread formations and plays. I like that some of those plays contain man beating concepts on one side of the field combined with zone beaters on the other. Always trying to add to my knowledge, as long as it meshes with my basic philosophy and fits my roster.
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    • blood9585
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      • Jan 2010
      • 36

      #107
      Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

      anyone know why my offensive plays would disappear in games and show the word "undefined" with a blank black background?

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      • alston4659
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        • Sep 2017
        • 360

        #108
        Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

        Happened to me with my old playbook I just stopped using. Maybe it was due to having too many plays to choose from but really couldnt figure it our myself.
        Originally posted by blood9585
        anyone know why my offensive plays would disappear in games and show the word "undefined" with a blank black background?
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        • schnaidt1
          All Star
          • Sep 2008
          • 5200

          #109
          Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

          Im having a major issue with my Custom Defense Playbook. Im looking for help and hopefully someone here will know the answer.

          okay so here it is.

          After I select all the plays I want in my playbook (ive tried this both from and empty book and from and existing teams playbook) and I rate them for my game plan. I double check everything and it looks good. As soon as I save it though, the problem arises.

          What happens is, plays will rate them selves. for example. I do not want any nickle formation to show up vs a bunch or trips formation and I game plan it as such. as soon as I save it though, boom every single play in any nickle formation suddenly has ratings bunch, trips formations etc.

          this issue also rears its head with the quarter formation as well. it literally will assign itself to situations where I do not want it all, I only set it to pop in empty backfield situations yet it pops up all the time.

          both of these are extremely frustrating and I am looking for a fix to this so I can scheme and game plan exactly how I want. TIA
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          • edgevoice
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            • Sep 2008
            • 1199

            #110
            Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

            Originally posted by schnaidt1
            Im having a major issue with my Custom Defense Playbook. Im looking for help and hopefully someone here will know the answer.

            okay so here it is.

            After I select all the plays I want in my playbook (ive tried this both from and empty book and from and existing teams playbook) and I rate them for my game plan. I double check everything and it looks good. As soon as I save it though, the problem arises.

            What happens is, plays will rate them selves. for example. I do not want any nickle formation to show up vs a bunch or trips formation and I game plan it as such. as soon as I save it though, boom every single play in any nickle formation suddenly has ratings bunch, trips formations etc.

            this issue also rears its head with the quarter formation as well. it literally will assign itself to situations where I do not want it all, I only set it to pop in empty backfield situations yet it pops up all the time.

            both of these are extremely frustrating and I am looking for a fix to this so I can scheme and game plan exactly how I want. TIA
            Schnaidt1, I feel your pain. I tried several different ways to set up a gameplan for defense and could not get the feature to cooperate. I encountered much of what you listed.

            Nothing like having Cover 3 Nickel come up in my gameplan when facing 12 personnel. I finally gave up, created my defensive playbook and am relegated to calling that side of the ball by formation.

            I believe they need to streamline defensive gameplanning so it simply relates to offensive personnel packages only. That way, we can slot our defenses based off of that. While simplistic, at least it would be stable.

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            • mtex
              Just started!
              • Jan 2020
              • 1

              #111
              Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

              Is it possible to draw your own plays?

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              • edgevoice
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 1199

                #112
                Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                Originally posted by mtex
                Is it possible to draw your own plays?
                Custom play design is still not available.

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                • RogueHominid
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10900

                  #113
                  Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                  I'm an avid fan of the thread and a frequent lurker, but my OCD about playbook rearrangement and my decision-making anxieties have kept me from diving in, though I really want to make my own books so I can have married concepts in all my formations, which, of course, Madden doesn't do very well.

                  That said, Edge, Don, and other vets of the custom PB, for someone starting out, about how many formations would you recommend building from as your most basic starting point?

                  I like single back and 2 back sets most and like gun the least, and am wondering what you might recommend for formation and play per formation counts?

                  My ideal core offense is the wide zone with the PA boots off of it for chunk plays, and an otherwise short to intermediate passing game. My favorite concepts passing wise, beyond the boots off the stretches, are Walsh-type WCO ones.

                  Can you guys help me brainstorm a good basic outline for core formations and core concepts? I think if I can get over this hurdle, I would be good to go, but it's a significant hurdle for someone who doesn't know all the formations and their plays extensively.

                  Anyone up for chatting about this, please feel free to PM so the thread doesn't get jacked.
                  Last edited by RogueHominid; 01-28-2020, 12:24 PM.

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                  • RyanLeaf16
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1003

                    #114
                    Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                    Originally posted by EnglishBull34
                    I'm an avid fan of the thread and a frequent lurker, but my OCD about playbook rearrangement and my decision-making anxieties have kept me from diving in, though I really want to make my own books so I can have married concepts in all my formations, which, of course, Madden doesn't do very well.

                    That said, Edge, Don, and other vets of the custom PB, for someone starting out, about how many formations would you recommend building from as your most basic starting point?

                    I like single back and 2 back sets most and like gun the least, and am wondering what you might recommend for formation and play per formation counts?

                    My ideal core offense is the wide zone with the PA boots off of it for chunk plays, and an otherwise short to intermediate passing game. My favorite concepts passing wise, beyond the boots off the stretches, are Walsh-type WCO ones.

                    Can you guys help me brainstorm a good basic outline for core formations and core concepts? I think if I can get over this hurdle, I would be good to go, but it's a significant hurdle for someone who doesn't know all the formations and their plays extensively.

                    Anyone up for chatting about this, please feel free to PM so the thread doesn't get jacked.


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                    • edgevoice
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1199

                      #115
                      Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                      Originally posted by EnglishBull34
                      I'm an avid fan of the thread and a frequent lurker, but my OCD about playbook rearrangement and my decision-making anxieties have kept me from diving in, though I really want to make my own books so I can have married concepts in all my formations, which, of course, Madden doesn't do very well.

                      That said, Edge, Don, and other vets of the custom PB, for someone starting out, about how many formations would you recommend building from as your most basic starting point?

                      I like single back and 2 back sets most and like gun the least, and am wondering what you might recommend for formation and play per formation counts?

                      My ideal core offense is the wide zone with the PA boots off of it for chunk plays, and an otherwise short to intermediate passing game. My favorite concepts passing wise, beyond the boots off the stretches, are Walsh-type WCO ones.

                      Can you guys help me brainstorm a good basic outline for core formations and core concepts? I think if I can get over this hurdle, I would be good to go, but it's a significant hurdle for someone who doesn't know all the formations and their plays extensively.

                      Anyone up for chatting about this, please feel free to PM so the thread doesn't get jacked.
                      First off, give yourself some credit for already having ideas for what type of offense you want to run. Also, it sounds like you've already made your mind up about building your own book, since you've acknowledged that the default playbooks simply don't have enough variety.

                      It might be best if you start off by keeping it simple. Think fewer formations at first, while building a good variety of concepts within each selected. Once you get going and get the hang of it, rather than wracking your brain for ideas, the ideas will come to you instead. While my offense is mostly based on timing routes and power runs, I also have a mix of west coast, zone runs and even some spread offense sprinkled in.

                      After you have your book in place and are comfortable with it, keep in mind that you can always add on later on down the road. I just finished adding a couple of pistol formations to bring my formation total to 12. Point is, you don't have to have all the answers to get started. Have fun with it, although it does take patience, trial and error and hard work, it's well worth the effort. Good luck.
                      Last edited by edgevoice; 01-29-2020, 09:40 AM.

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                      • alston4659
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 360

                        #116
                        Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                        I've actually just started making playbooks and a few weeks ago I created a playbook using sets from both the Chiefs offense and the Niners offense but what I seem to run into the most is having TOO many plays to choose from in any particular playbook. I'm using the Bills in my franchise and while Josh Allen is laughably inaccurate, I enjoy throwing the ball even though I seem to be better at running it. So I've decided to go with a basic approach and have been doing sole reading up on vertical zone running schemes. I came across a few articles that explained how Peyton Manning used to run his Colts offenses and it intrigued me enough to try and replicate that best I can. I'm going to try and implement this particular scheme, although I dont plan on using the hurry up as much as he did. I like the challenge of trying to audible my way into the right play but what this really comes down to is having the right personnel and I dont think the Bills are quite there yet especially on the offensive line. I already have my sets picked out so now its just about creating the book and seeing what happens.

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                        • Shamhat1915
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                          • Jul 2012
                          • 476

                          #117
                          Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                          Been trying to make a playbook for myself, but I'm seeming to have some trouble. Namely in picking out plays to use. There's plenty that seem like that could be useful or something, and I end up adding, or wanting to add, far too many. How do you limit the plays put in?

                          Or maybe give me some ideas of plays and formations to look at. I've been trying to build a kind an Air Raid playbook. I love the concept of spreading the field with 3 or four receivers, letting the receivers truly dictate the routes and everything. Putting less linebackers on the field to open up running lanes for quicker backs.
                          I guess what I'm asking is: what playbook should I look at first as a base? I know Arizona's is considered an Air Raid, so maybe there. Or is there one already uploaded on Madden Share that is good to download? (on ps4). Or possibly, as a last resort, could someone go over a playbook to make with me?
                          On another note, I'm also not opposed to a Multiple Zone Run style as that scheme fits one I'm more used to playing.
                          Last edited by Shamhat1915; 02-10-2020, 05:49 AM.
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                          • Shosum13
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1177

                            #118
                            Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                            Originally posted by Shamhat1915
                            Been trying to make a playbook for myself, but I'm seeming to have some trouble. Namely in picking out plays to use. There's plenty that seem like that could be useful or something, and I end up adding, or wanting to add, far too many. How do you limit the plays put in?

                            Or maybe give me some ideas of plays and formations to look at. I've been trying to build a kind an Air Raid playbook. I love the concept of spreading the field with 3 or four receivers, letting the receivers truly dictate the routes and everything. Putting less linebackers on the field to open up running lanes for quicker backs.
                            I guess what I'm asking is: what playbook should I look at first as a base? I know Arizona's is considered an Air Raid, so maybe there. Or is there one already uploaded on Madden Share that is good to download? (on ps4). Or possibly, as a last resort, could someone go over a playbook to make with me?
                            On another note, I'm also not opposed to a Multiple Zone Run style as that scheme fits one I'm more used to playing.
                            I start with a base playbook from a team that team that I already know I like. Then from there I remove plays that I know I won’t use, and go through and find plays using concepts I know I’ll use a lot. Then a couple of times a season in a franchise I’ll go through it again and remove plays I don’t end up using at all and possibly adding more if there’s a certain concept or certain coverage beater I’m looking for. As far as a good air raid playbook I’m not sure because outside of a season or two I ran of a solo cardinals franchise I’ve never used the air raid and I felt like there’s was very incomplete. I would maybe do some searches on madden share and download some of the top rated or downloaded user created air raid books and go from there.

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                            • alston4659
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                              • Sep 2017
                              • 360

                              #119
                              Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                              Quick question. When creating a playbook what's the best STAR system that would allow for all of my plays in a situation (like 1st down) to show up and not get duplicate plays to show up while scrolling through my coach suggestion plays. I currently use a 3 play per star format (3 plays for 5 stars 3 plays per 4 and a half stars and downward from there in sets of three per half star) but I still see duplicate plays show up from time to time. I've also tried using 5 plays per star (5 plays for 5 stars, 5 plays for 4 and a half stars, etc from there) but still cant settle in on the right format. Additionally I just played a few preseason games and I have had my two minute offense show up right before half time and as you all know that bug where the safe plays only would show up didnt come to pass those two games for whatever reason.

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                              • edgevoice
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1199

                                #120
                                Re: Madden 20 Custom Playbook & Game Plan Play Call Guide

                                Originally posted by alston4659
                                Quick question. When creating a playbook what's the best STAR system that would allow for all of my plays in a situation (like 1st down) to show up and not get duplicate plays to show up while scrolling through my coach suggestion plays?

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                                Great question mate. The answer to your question is; It doesn't matter. The star system in this instance has nothing to do with repetitive plays showing up.

                                Here's the solution: 30 plays per-situation must be installed in order to combat repeated plays from showing up. If you print up my original gameplan, you will notice that I copied situations in such a way to work around this. In critical situations, 3rd/4th/2min, I want only my best 12 pass plays up and want to find them quickly without the repeats. That's why I suggest copying all running plays to this situation so that they will take up the rest of the 30 play count, so repeats don't occur. Of course, I call plays under the Run or Pass windows, rather than Coach Suggestions.

                                The only exception is that ONE PLAY will repeat to take up the play square of the previous play called, which disappears until another play is selected from that specific situation.

                                To completely avoid the workaround I've described, I wrote in a suggestion @ BETA that would allow us to select up to 30 plays per-situation, rather than have to in order to prevent what you are experiencing from happening. They did a nice job of finally working on this feature, but it does need refinement so it is more user-friendly.
                                Last edited by edgevoice; 02-20-2020, 12:12 PM.

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