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  • Gambo
    Rookie
    • Apr 2017
    • 266

    #106
    Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

    At this point I'm kinda curious as keeping it off until, lets say week 8, and then turning it on. At least you get and imagined grind of the season this way.

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    • Tbjohnson2
      Rookie
      • Aug 2018
      • 194

      #107
      Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

      When I tested a few times by simming, my players never “recovered” during bye-weeks..they actually got more tired.

      This can’t be how it is supposed to work…can it?

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      • MizzouRah
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 8550

        #108
        Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

        Originally posted by Tbjohnson2
        When I tested a few times by simming, my players never “recovered” during bye-weeks..they actually got more tired.

        This can’t be how it is supposed to work…can it?
        Did you only train the backups during the bye? I did full pads for the backups and my fatigue is at 100% for starters.

        EA needs to explain this new addition but so far I've been ok with full pads preseason then just splitting the half pad reps between both during most weeks/backups only on bye week, etc.. giving the starters full pads every week will kill their fatigue.

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        • Tbjohnson2
          Rookie
          • Aug 2018
          • 194

          #109
          Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

          Originally posted by MizzouRah
          Did you only train the backups during the bye? I did full pads for the backups and my fatigue is at 100% for starters.



          EA needs to explain this new addition but so far I've been ok with full pads preseason then just splitting the half pad reps between both during most weeks/backups only on bye week, etc.. giving the starters full pads every week will kill their fatigue.


          Ahh okay..could be that then - the backups fatigue level made my entire team show as more tired. I was simply checking the fatigue % on a weekly basis. I didn’t manually change anything else..as far as reps/intensity.

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          • MizzouRah
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 8550

            #110
            Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

            Originally posted by Tbjohnson2
            Ahh okay..could be that then - the backups fatigue level made my entire team show as more tired. I was simply checking the fatigue % on a weekly basis. I didn’t manually change anything else..as far as reps/intensity.
            They don't explain it anywhere and it defaults to full pads/starters so keeping it on that every week will kill the starters fatigue.

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            • sadler
              Pro
              • Sep 2017
              • 529

              #111
              Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

              One of the Madden devs posted about 2 hours ago saying this has been tuned for the next patch!

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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21794

                #112
                Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                Originally posted by sadler
                One of the Madden devs posted about 2 hours ago saying this has been tuned for the next patch!
                That is great news. Glad they listened to the feedback.
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                • RogueHominid
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10900

                  #113
                  Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                  That's welcome news. Can you link to the Tweet?

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                  • Hooe
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 21555

                    #114
                    Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                    Originally posted by RogueHominid
                    That's welcome news. Can you link to the Tweet?

                    Here you go: https://twitter.com/swami_ea/status/...988915714?s=21

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                    • mercalnd
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 4262

                      #115
                      Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                      Originally posted by CM Hooe
                      I'm worried that this Twitter conversation is completely centered on user teams struggling with fatigue management. Nothing at all about the way AI teams are managing it. I sure hope that was looked at as well.

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                      • natethebestever
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 516

                        #116
                        Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                        So when you user 32 team control and play veer game do you keep it on or turn it off but when I have it off no auto sub when I have in the whole season by week 10 my starters are drained so what do I do


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                        • ajra21
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2170

                          #117
                          Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                          Originally posted by mercalnd
                          I'm worried that this Twitter conversation is completely centered on user teams struggling with fatigue management. Nothing at all about the way AI teams are managing it. I sure hope that was looked at as well.

                          Yeah, not convinced it is actually dealing with the issue as a whole.

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                          • Tbjohnson2
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 194

                            #118
                            Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                            If they tune Users to fatigue less but don’t touch CPU teams, there will be no option but to turn off progressive fatigue.

                            Plleeaasseee don’t go down that way…
                            Last edited by Tbjohnson2; 09-15-2021, 09:18 PM.

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                            • canes21
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 22930

                              #119
                              Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                              I wonder if the tuning will be part of the same update that the scouting changes come with. If so, we're looking at about another month before this is tuned which is disappointing. We also don't even know if the tuning is to the AI logic, to the impacts each practice type has, etc.

                              I can live without the scouting update in my franchise, but the fatigue issues need to be fixed before I start my real franchise and it is a bit irritating that we don't know what they are tuning, when it will be out, etc. The only thing we know right now is that this feature is great in theory, but clearly isn't working properly at the moment.
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                              • KingV2k3
                                Senior Circuit
                                • May 2003
                                • 5881

                                #120
                                Re: Progressive Fatigue AI Logic

                                Originally posted by Tbjohnson2
                                I actually mistyped the weeks in my original post - I have edited that. Turn it off in Week 15! On through Week 14…

                                Yes to 50 Fatigue and 60/80 Auto Subs.
                                And yes to it resetting the next season..then just follow the same rules. Off once you hit Week 15…
                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                Yeah........so ran my tests of shutting it off after week 13 (before advancing to Week 14) and turning it back on for the post season.

                                Nope.

                                Best thing to do....shut it off after week 12. And do not turn it back on till the next season.

                                That is what we got for you.

                                Has anyone tried / tested this in "reverse"?

                                For instance:

                                Leave Progressive Fatigue : OFF until week 8 or so and THEN turn it on.

                                May possibly mimic late season fatigue without compromising CPU thru Playoffs / Super Bowl, etc.

                                Thanks!

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