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  • toodles2you90
    Pro
    • Apr 2018
    • 501

    #196
    Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

    Originally posted by DallasRocks
    Sorry it’s blurry but come on, the corners back is turned covering the out route of Gallup then magically turns around and picks it between his legs. This is just one of countless “oh my gosh” picks I’ve seen.
    Where was the head looking? If it was in the backfield, the breakdown redirect to the ball animation wasn’t magical. It looked pretty realistic if his head was looking in the backfield. I can’t see the catch clearly so I don’t know about the between the legs part but everything else didn’t look bad. The reaction to the play to me was fine. He planted and then dove basically. Maybe I need a better video.

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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21554

      #197
      Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

      Originally posted by DallasRocks
      https://youtu.be/UeKWuSYPvYg

      This just happened
      You'll probably have a better time running Stick concepts if you let the game handle the quarterback drop back for you, then throw the stick route immediately when the quarterback's back foot hits. You increased the degree of difficulty on the throw by dropping too far back into the pocket relative to the timing of the routes as they develop.

      Additionally, it is difficult for us to evaluate this play without being able to see if the game gave you an accurate throw via the pass accuracy feedback text that the game provides at the bottom of the screen during the play. The curl flat player does indeed make an incredible reaction to the overthrown ball, I will give you that much.

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      • ajra21
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 2170

        #198
        Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

        Originally posted by CT Pitbull
        my $0.02

        I was throwing picks non stop. I usually just play on All Pro default for years. I was so sick of the ints i dropped the difficulty down to Pro.

        Best game ive had with Madden 23. The AI ran the ball better and threw it better. And I could actually make passes in small windows without the constant ints. I lost the game to the Falcons. Only downside was Mariotta was 25-25 passing. wasnt just dink and dunk either. he hit a bomb for a TD down the sideline for 40 yards with good coverage.

        I dont cheese the cpu and im not the greatest madden player but the game just seemed to play like a football game and not a turnover fest.

        I've dropped from All MAdden to Pro and the INT are now ... manageable.


        The rest of the game is now playing well. It's just too easy which means I need to tweak some sliders to make it harder.

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        • CujoMatty
          Member of Rush Nation
          • Oct 2007
          • 5444

          #199
          Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

          This is only one of the interception issues I have but if this was an incompletion like it should be my interceptions would be cut in half as this happens so often. I said in the impressions thread, ties always go to the defender regardless of who is in a better position. I was the Colts by the way so this was a throw by the AI. In real life this is an interception 0% of the time. In Madden 23 its 99% of the time. We can argue about the throw, it's location, how the db broke on the ball, how the receiver isn't aggressive enough or many things but the fact remains the defender warps through the receiver and the ball warped through the receivers hands as well. That's just not good and I am seeing this exact scenario often for not only my throws but the CPU. On all pro my team has 19 picks through week 5 so something is not right at all.


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          • Housh123
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 1173

            #200
            Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

            Originally posted by CujoMatty
            This is only one of the interception issues I have but if this was an incompletion like it should be my interceptions would be cut in half as this happens so often. I said in the impressions thread, ties always go to the defender regardless of who is in a better position. I was the Colts by the way so this was a throw by the AI. In real life this is an interception 0% of the time. In Madden 23 its 99% of the time. We can argue about the throw, it's location, how the db broke on the ball, how the receiver isn't aggressive enough or many things but the fact remains the defender warps through the receiver and the ball warped through the receivers hands as well. That's just not good and I am seeing this exact scenario often for not only my throws but the CPU. On all pro my team has 19 picks through week 5 so something is not right at all.





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            • Jagsfan24
              MVP
              • Mar 2016
              • 1855

              #201
              Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

              Originally posted by ajra21
              I've dropped from All MAdden to Pro and the INT are now ... manageable.


              The rest of the game is now playing well. It's just too easy which means I need to tweak some sliders to make it harder.
              I may have to drop down to all pro also or something because I admit the ints are a bit ridiculous, I understand bad throws which a lot of mine are but every, I mean every cpu defenders hands are damn magnets when the ball is near them as they just don’t drop anything

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              • Jagsfan24
                MVP
                • Mar 2016
                • 1855

                #202
                Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

                Also has anyone looked into editing the traits of players?

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                • CujoMatty
                  Member of Rush Nation
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 5444

                  #203
                  Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

                  Originally posted by Housh123
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                  • Housh123
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1173

                    #204
                    I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

                    Been on for about 2 hours now and I’m definitely seeing improvements from the tips you guys gave.


                    Some of you guys said it. The routes work better this year when you anticipate your WRs cuts and throw to guys before they look open. Comebacks and curls definitely follow this rule. You damn near gotta throw curls perfectly this year.

                    So i can focus more on my WRs routes and if they are winning their route Iv also gone to a 2 reads and throw it away/scramble rule. On all of my plays i really only got 2 routes i even want to hit. Alot of ppl said run a simpler offense. Iv done that too. Whoever said run more play actions and rollouts, thank you. Play actions are very easy to run when i know I’m throwing it away if my 1st read isn’t there. Previous Maddens have gotten me so used to holding the ball Iv had to switch up my whole game. This is the most Iv ever called plays meant to only get 5-7 yards.




                    With all this said Iv thrown picks but only like 1 has been BS.


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                    • voodoo_magic
                      On the 15 day DL-blister
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 724

                      #205
                      Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

                      I tried something that may sound crazy, turning the int slider to 100.

                      I'm not a great player and was struggling big time to start on all pro, went down to pro and int slider at 0 but I was still having pick issues.
                      After some great tips in here, like focusing on one side of the field, mixing my play calling better, only going for longer passes when they are set up, getting used to the precision passing I cut the int down a lot but was still getting some like others here where the defence should have dropped the ball/swatted it.

                      In the couple games in franchise trying out int at 100 I had 4 or 5 instances where there was a swat animation instead of the defender catching the ball. Obviously very small sample and it could totally be random but it seems like something ea would do, especially since int slider at 0 is definitely not behaving like 0.
                      I thought int at 100 with my previous struggles would mean anything close to the ai was going to be picked but it wasn't like that, no warping or weirdness.
                      I played my normal game making some longer pass attempts to test out the ai so not just 5 yard passes.
                      In previous testing both the ai and I would probably have 2 or 3 int in 2 games but in these 2 games I only had 1 int on a bad throw and the ai had 2 where they made throws right at my guy that should be caught.

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                      • Ram209
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1161

                        #206
                        Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                        Originally posted by mixxx01
                        Yup clearly people don’t know how to play. I wish we were all as good as you and could stop 60 over corners from making Superman like interceptions. Tell us what’s your secret?


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                        • Ram209
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1161

                          #207
                          Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

                          Originally posted by Dazza1
                          If it looks like chicken, smells like chicken and tastes like chicken, it’s obviously chicken. Guess what I’m trying to say in English is….with so many people complaining about INTs there’s obviously an INT issue. Maybe I did state in another feed that I play CPU vs CPU so no user input and the INTs are happening at a ridiculous rate. In fact roughly 1:3 ratio in favor of INTs which obviously is not ok.


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                          Not true.... McDonalds sales more burgers than anyone else combined does that mean there the best burgers?!?!?! Bottom line is it's all a matter of opinion like I said before people want sim and when they get sim they complain.

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                          Last edited by Ram209; 08-21-2022, 03:11 AM.

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                          • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4682

                            #208
                            Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

                            Originally posted by Ram209
                            Not true.... McDonalds sales more burgers than anyone else combined does that mean there the best burgers?!?!?! Bottom line is it's all a matter of opinion like I said before people want sim and when they get sim they complain.

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                            A former dev has already confirmed that interceptions are artificially inflated to appease users. He said the interception slider should be reduced to 20% of what it is by default (from 50 to around 10).

                            Ergo, the game is NOT sim on this issue, thank you very much.

                            And speaking of my own experience, the biggest flaw in this version of the game is there are WAAAAAAYYY too many big plays (pics, highlight tackle breaks, etc), and way too many “stand up tackles.”
                            Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                            I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                            https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                            Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                            • RGiles36
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3957

                              #209
                              I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball.

                              The irony in folks defending these interceptions is that they don’t address two things:

                              1) The AI is struggling to not throw picks as well. All Pro and All Madden - they are throwing just as many picks as the user.

                              2) Previous Madden’s have always punished bad reads at default settings. Always. And you see that reflected in slider settings over the years. So the idea that M23 is somehow even more realistic for MORE turnovers is poppycock.

                              Increased pass rush and better zone play IS more realistic. Super defenders and 5+ turnovers per game (player + AI) is not.
                              Last edited by RGiles36; 08-21-2022, 08:42 AM.
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                              • mixxx01
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 321

                                #210
                                Re: I’m Already tired of throwing picks cause my WR won’t attack the ball and i for a

                                Originally posted by Ram209
                                Keep practicing young Skywalker...

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                                Excellent never thought of that. What great wisdom you have imparted. One final question. What’s your advice for the cpu vs cpu crowd where each qb throws five picks each? No user input. How does one make the cpu play better against itself?


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