CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

[kdutch98]

re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Again the success rate is far higher than 50% more like 90% and that is my core issue.

Just tune it and all is good.


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I agree, the success rate is probably too high, and the slider doesn't seem to be responding.

I still think that in years past, the success rate was much too low though. Which "created a norm" that really shouldn't have been a "norm"

[PVarck31]

re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

So are we talking about the CPU throwing to many INTs in this thread?

If so, I agree that the title is misleading. I thought this was another thread about human INTs.

Can we get this cleared up, and I'll change the title if need be.

[CujoMatty]

re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

So are we talking about the CPU throwing to many INTs in this thread?

If so, I agree that the title is misleading. I thought this was another thread about human INTs.

Can we get this cleared up, and I'll change the title if need be.

No I was wrong thinking it was.

Roadman started a new thread as he felt the other one got too far off topic. Completely my misunderstanding.

[roadman]

re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

So are we talking about the CPU throwing to many INTs in this thread?

If so, I agree that the title is misleading. I thought this was another thread about human INTs.

Can we get this cleared up, and I'll change the title if need be.

Sorry, my definition wasn't clear in the title.

The definition I was aiming for(pun intended) was CPU QB's

throwing INT's under pressure

I am also trying to make clear because I am not seeing the issue in

my little Franchise Mode world, doesn't mean it's not a issue outside

of my little Franchise Mode world.

I am trying to offer a suggestion or two until there is a fix.

I hope this clarifies things and thanks PV.

[ajra21]

Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

Sorry, my definition wasn't clear in the title.

The definition I was aiming for(pun intended) was CPU QB's

throwing INT's under pressure and too many User and CPU AI defender

INT's. (defenders you don't control)

I am also trying to make clear because I am not seeing the issue in

my little Franchise Mode world, doesn't mean it's not a issue outside

of my little Franchise Mode world.

I am trying to offer a suggestion or two until there is a fix.

I hope this clarifies things and thanks PV.

I assume the title has been changed cos it all makes sense to me!

[Hooe]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Edited the thread title to make it clear this thread is specifically about CPU quarterback play.

[PVarck31]

Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

Sorry, my definition wasn't clear in the title.

The definition I was aiming for(pun intended) was CPU QB's

throwing INT's under pressure

I am also trying to make clear because I am not seeing the issue in

my little Franchise Mode world, doesn't mean it's not a issue outside

of my little Franchise Mode world.

I am trying to offer a suggestion or two until there is a fix.

I hope this clarifies things and thanks PV.

Ok, I gotcha. I'm gonna change the title to make it a little more clear.

As far as CPU throwing INT's too much, it's not a huge deal for me, although I am seeing some where the CPU QB is throwing across his body and those tend to get picked pretty easily. Which is realistic. It just seems like they do it a little too often, but not to a point where it's a serious issue. At least I'm not seeing it that way.

[roadman]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Thank you, both, I appreciate the clarity.

[toodles2you90]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Honestly at this point till something is patched, the key is taking control of the defender and manually swatting passes. Pretty much outside of passes that are straight to defenders, I just started swatting everything as well as change the coach option to swat. It's really all you can do to prevent a ton of CPU interceptions right now.

[ShaneTheMaster]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

But it really is, though.

I mean, think about it. If you make a bad throw into coverage 10 times a game, you really shouldn't be surprised if you throw 5 picks.

Now tell us how this fixes the AI doing it.

[kdutch98]

Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

Ok, I gotcha. I'm gonna change the title to make it a little more clear.

As far as CPU throwing INT's too much, it's not a huge deal for me, although I am seeing some where the CPU QB is throwing across his body and those tend to get picked pretty easily. Which is realistic. It just seems like they do it a little too often, but not to a point where it's a serious issue. At least I'm not seeing it that way.

I'm kinda curious what difficulty everyone that is seeing these issues are playing on.

I play All Madden default, and I am NOT seeing the issues with CPU QBs throwing tons of INTs.

Going through my box scores from my Lions franchise (yes, I print out box scores of all games lol) the most the CPU has thrown against me is 3 (twice, Cousins, and Drew Lock) but both QBs were under pressure all damn game long.

Edit: Both games were blowouts, and 2 of the 3 picks came in the 4th quarter.

[kdutch98]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Now tell us how this fixes the AI doing it.

I'm NOT seeing the AI do it at an unrealistic rate.

All Madden Default sliders.

[Hooe]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

A couple of observations on my end, having watched a number of games in my Madden 23 online franchise (All Pro, default sliders, Simulation game style):

- When the CPU gets to operate with time or in the quick pass game, they are pretty capable and generally make good reads.

- As far as I can tell, the CPU can never hot route in a blocker, be it against an obvious blitz look, in an obvious vertical passing situation, against an elite edge rusher, or compensating for a weak offensive line. This can result in an abundance of five-man protection schemes, which increases how often the CPU quarterback faces pressure.

- Some, but not all, CPU quarterbacks behave like a bad Madden user under pressure. They sprint backwards and against their handedness out of the pocket so that there's no easy throw to make should a guy break open. This isn't limited to "bad" quarterbacks either; I just watched CPU Matthew Stafford play an absolutely miserable six-interception game against our Bills user. (As an aside, the CPU is absolutely terrible at replicating the Rams' real-life offense for a multitude of reasons).

- I haven't really seen the CPU attempt to throw the ball away under pressure thus far, and I don't think the CPU is capable of using Skill Based Passing to intentionally throw a ball into the dirt near an eligible receiver.

[toodles2you90]

Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

I'm kinda curious what difficulty everyone that is seeing these issues are playing on.

I play All Madden default, and I am NOT seeing the issues with CPU QBs throwing tons of INTs.

Going through my box scores from my Lions franchise (yes, I print out box scores of all games lol) the most the CPU has thrown against me is 3 (twice, Cousins, and Drew Lock) but both QBs were under pressure all damn game long.

Playing with the Lions is probably a reason you are getting that. Go play with the Rams for 10 games and see how many get thrown. I don't have see a ton either but Playing with Carolina and not having a premier pass rusher and a solid but not spectacular secondary also plays a role there.

[kdutch98]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

A couple of observations on my end, having watched a number of games in my Madden 23 online franchise (All Pro, default sliders, Simulation game style):

- When the CPU gets to operate with time or in the quick pass game, they are pretty capable and generally make good reads.

- As far as I can tell, the CPU can never hot route in a blocker, be it against an obvious blitz look, in an obvious vertical passing situation, against an elite edge rusher, or compensating for a weak offensive line. This can result in an abundance of five-man protection schemes, which increases how often the CPU quarterback faces pressure.

- Some, but not all, CPU quarterbacks behave like a bad Madden user under pressure. They sprint backwards and against their handedness out of the pocket so that there's no easy throw to make should a guy break open. This isn't limited to "bad" quarterbacks either; I just watched CPU Matthew Stafford play an absolutely miserable six-interception game against our Bills user. (As an aside, the CPU is absolutely terrible at replicating the Rams' real-life offense for a multitude of reasons).

- I haven't really seen the CPU attempt to throw the ball away under pressure thus far, and I don't think the CPU is capable of using Skill Based Passing to intentionally throw a ball into the dirt near an eligible receiver.

I seriously wonder if the problem is the A.I. "Intelligence" difference between All Pro and All Madden.

I play on All Madden default sliders, and I absolutely AM seeing the CPU QBs throw the ball away, even occasionally throw balls into the ground when under pressure.