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  • PhillyPhanatic14
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    • Jun 2015
    • 4824

    #46
    Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

    Seeing more stone hands today on All Pro. 3-4 times in one game by the AI actually. INT slider on 10.

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    • Heisman
      Pro
      • Dec 2007
      • 560

      #47
      Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

      Originally posted by kdutch98
      I'm not the one missing the point.

      The point is, I'm NOT seeing these horrible throws by CPU QBs on All Madden, for whatever reason.

      Despite putting them under enormous pressure, and them throwing the ball a sh*t tone against me.
      Use a team with an x-factor in the secondary or even just play the Madden legacy game. I can take the Raiders in franchise and have semi realistic games even if I lead the league in interceptions by a handful or so, but if I build them up or use a team like the Rams the cpu will throw 3 interceptions the first 3 possessions and Jalen Ramsey will have 22 interceptions for the season with 7 pick 6’s.
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      • kdutch98
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        • Aug 2021
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        #48
        Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

        Originally posted by Heisman
        Use a team with an x-factor in the secondary or even just play the Madden legacy game. I can take the Raiders in franchise and have semi realistic games even if I lead the league in interceptions by a handful or so, but if I build them up or use a team like the Rams the cpu will throw 3 interceptions the first 3 possessions and Jalen Ramsey will have 22 interceptions for the season with 7 pick 6’s.
        Again, missing the point.

        I'm NOT seeing the CPU QB's throw the ball into coverage like that.

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        • Heisman
          Pro
          • Dec 2007
          • 560

          #49
          Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

          Originally posted by kdutch98
          Again, missing the point.

          I'm NOT seeing the CPU QB's throw the ball into coverage like that.
          You must have a different game because I don’t see the cpu avoiding star corners and with momentum in your favor and the ai’s sticky hands I can guarantee at least 1 pick every game by the same player.

          But hey, if you don’t see it I’m happy for you. I just wish the sliders worked.
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          • TheBleedingRed21
            Game Dev
            • Oct 2010
            • 5071

            #50
            Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

            I’ve been a very big madden supporter but there’s no sugar coating it.

            Interceptions are a problem and ruining the great work this team has done. They need to fix it now.
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            • Playmakers
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              • Sep 2004
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              #51
              Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

              I don't expect 90% of you to do this but I'll just throw it out there

              Instead of complaining about INT's and waiting for EA to do something down the road I simply changed the coaching options which I mentioned way back last year and the start of this years release.

              ON top of that I edited 2-4 team's playbooks and schemes to stop all the b.s. High passing ratio by the CPU.

              Yes, the game has an INT issue but also I think some of it is to do teams just flat out passing all game. If EA actually works on Run/Pass ratios by the team it would cut the INTs in half because they are keeping the ball on the ground more.

              I'm not going to tell anyone how to play their game, but I've offered the same exact information that was posted on the Front page back in week one.

              This is just another example why I've voiced my frustrations in regards to them EA giving us more options to control how teams play like we had in NCAA Football 14.

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              • CujoMatty
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                • Oct 2007
                • 5445

                #52
                Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

                Originally posted by Heisman
                You must have a different game because I don’t see the cpu avoiding star corners and with momentum in your favor and the ai’s sticky hands I can guarantee at least 1 pick every game by the same player.

                But hey, if you don’t see it I’m happy for you. I just wish the sliders worked.
                Switched back to all pro mode did the suggested tweaks 12 minute quarters no Accelerated Clock as well the speed parity etc. Had 5 picks 3 by Gilmore 2 pick 6s won 64-14. Cpu was making horrible decisions. This is with cpu bass blocking at 85 so not much pressure. I desperately need a harder difficulty level that isn't the shenanigans of all madden. I know its possible as I have had my best most competitive games on All Madden but when you get to the inevitable game that decides its going off the rails its beyond any horrible experience I've ever experienced in sports gaming.

                It actually beats out derby games in PES 21 in terms of tom foolery which I didn't think was possible.
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                • TheBleedingRed21
                  Game Dev
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 5071

                  #53
                  Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

                  Originally posted by Playmakers
                  I don't expect 90% of you to do this but I'll just throw it out there

                  Instead of complaining about INT's and waiting for EA to do something down the road I simply changed the coaching options which I mentioned way back last year and the start of this years release.

                  ON top of that I edited 2-4 team's playbooks and schemes to stop all the b.s. High passing ratio by the CPU.

                  Yes, the game has an INT issue but also I think some of it is to do teams just flat out passing all game. If EA actually works on Run/Pass ratios by the team it would cut the INTs in half because they are keeping the ball on the ground more.

                  I'm not going to tell anyone how to play their game, but I've offered the same exact information that was posted on the Front page back in week one.

                  This is just another example why I've voiced my frustrations in regards to them EA giving us more options to control how teams play like we had in NCAA Football 14.

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                  Literally have changed coaching adjustments and interception slider is at 0. I’m on all pro because pro is way too damn easy for me. Not a lick of difference.

                  I’m gonna complain about interceptions until the cows come home because it needs fixed, trait edits, coaching adjustments, etc. don’t work, Atleast on all pro. All that stuff is just going down a rabbit hole, always is, I’m not wasting anymore effort on it. Will just have to wait for a patch, is what it is.
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                  • tcnumba10
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                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1816

                    #54
                    Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

                    Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                    Literally have changed coaching adjustments and interception slider is at 0. I’m on all pro because pro is way too damn easy for me. Not a lick of difference.

                    I’m gonna complain about interceptions until the cows come home because it needs fixed, trait edits, coaching adjustments, etc. don’t work, Atleast on all pro. All that stuff is just going down a rabbit hole, always is, I’m not wasting anymore effort on it. Will just have to wait for a patch, is what it is.
                    Don’t want to go down that rabbit hole like I did with NBA 2K where I would spend more time editing rosters than actually playing the game in order for it to play right.

                    I don’t mind the aggressiveness of the defence getting to the ball when it’s thrown, it’s just that they have to tone done the amount of INTs and make sure their Interception slider actually works so that the defence doesn’t catch everything in their grasp.

                    Again, NFL teams average only 1 or less INTs per game, this issue definitely is a game breaker in terms of immersion if I see 3+ INTs from both User and CPU teams.
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                    • SituationSoap
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                      • Jul 2017
                      • 37

                      #55
                      Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

                      Originally posted by kdutch98
                      I'm kinda curious what difficulty everyone that is seeing these issues are playing on.

                      I play All Madden default, and I am NOT seeing the issues with CPU QBs throwing tons of INTs.

                      Going through my box scores from my Lions franchise (yes, I print out box scores of all games lol) the most the CPU has thrown against me is 3 (twice, Cousins, and Drew Lock) but both QBs were under pressure all damn game long.

                      Edit: Both games were blowouts, and 2 of the 3 picks came in the 4th quarter.
                      You are absolutely seeing too many INTs, you just don't understand what too many INTs looks like. The Lions had 11 INTs last year as a team, you're on pace for 24. 6 of their INTs last year were by Armani Oruwariye, who is very likely to regress toward the mean this year, a reasonable number for him is like, 3.

                      In a secondary with no standout players you've generated something like 21 interceptions out of thin air. I really love Aidan Hutchinson, but there's no way that adding him to the defensive line is going to be enough to blow up a defense from being pretty awful last year to effectively leading the league in turnovers this year.

                      I hadn't read through the whole thread to this point, but Aidan Hutchinson having 19 sacks through 14 games is also absolutely absurd. He's going to have a great season if he gets to 10 sacks this year. 13 would basically make him a shoo-in for DROY. You have him on pace for the sack record in his rookie season. You're going to see the most sacks by a team in at least 10 years.

                      You're taking a mediocre defense at best and turning them into a defense that shows up about once in a decade or more and then coming over here and telling people you don't see anything unrealistic. You don't know what unrealistic looks like.
                      Last edited by SituationSoap; 08-26-2022, 07:55 AM. Reason: Additional context

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                      • sterfry1994
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                        • Oct 2014
                        • 102

                        #56
                        Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

                        I’m not sure if anybody has tried this, but in play now games im going to lower the catch ratings for back 7 players on both sides along with their play ball trait to conservative.

                        I’m considering dropping the rating by 50-75% to hopefully see a change and then dial it in from there if it’s successful.

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                        • ajra21
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                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2170

                          #57
                          Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

                          Had a kinda weird one. Kyler fled the pocket to the left. He had plenty of space to run into with only one LB in front of him. It was the kind situation that should have had him salivating. He could have gone a long way, though probably not for a TD.

                          Instead, he threw it away. Even the most statuesque QB could have made it back to the LoS around the 25 yard line.

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                          • kdutch98
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                            • Aug 2021
                            • 775

                            #58
                            Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

                            Originally posted by SituationSoap
                            You are absolutely seeing too many INTs, you just don't understand what too many INTs looks like. The Lions had 11 INTs last year as a team, you're on pace for 24. 6 of their INTs last year were by Armani Oruwariye, who is very likely to regress toward the mean this year, a reasonable number for him is like, 3.

                            In a secondary with no standout players you've generated something like 21 interceptions out of thin air. I really love Aidan Hutchinson, but there's no way that adding him to the defensive line is going to be enough to blow up a defense from being pretty awful last year to effectively leading the league in turnovers this year.

                            I hadn't read through the whole thread to this point, but Aidan Hutchinson having 19 sacks through 14 games is also absolutely absurd. He's going to have a great season if he gets to 10 sacks this year. 13 would basically make him a shoo-in for DROY. You have him on pace for the sack record in his rookie season. You're going to see the most sacks by a team in at least 10 years.

                            You're taking a mediocre defense at best and turning them into a defense that shows up about once in a decade or more and then coming over here and telling people you don't see anything unrealistic. You don't know what unrealistic looks like.
                            Again, you are completely missing the point.

                            From what everyone is saying on this thread, with the amount of pressure I'm generating on the CPU QBs, (I admit it is unrealistic for the Lions) I SHOULD be seeing 6 plus interceptions a game.

                            I'm not. Only twice have I gotten 3. Most games, I get 1 or none. And I'm seeing the CPU throw the ball away when they should be, in order to avoid a sack.

                            What I'm NOT seeing, is the CPU just chucking up a duck when under pressure resulting in a ball thrown right into coverage. UNLESS they are down late, and NEED a score to stay in/get back in the game.

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                            • Heisman
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                              • Dec 2007
                              • 560

                              #59
                              Re: New CPU Overpowered Interceptions Thread

                              Originally posted by kdutch98
                              Again, you are completely missing the point.

                              From what everyone is saying on this thread, with the amount of pressure I'm generating on the CPU QBs, (I admit it is unrealistic for the Lions) I SHOULD be seeing 6 plus interceptions a game.

                              I'm not. Only twice have I gotten 3. Most games, I get 1 or none. And I'm seeing the CPU throw the ball away when they should be, in order to avoid a sack.

                              What I'm NOT seeing, is the CPU just chucking up a duck when under pressure resulting in a ball thrown right into coverage. UNLESS they are down late, and NEED a score to stay in/get back in the game.
                              The point really is that you have too many interceptions in your season for it to be considered realistic which is how most of us want to play in our franchise. If you use a team with an x-factor in the secondary it would be even worse. It doesn’t matter if you see 3 ints some games and 1 or 2 in others. It’s still too many interceptions.
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                              • Hooe
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                                #60
                                Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

                                Well Joe Burrow just ripped me to shreds on default All Pro, so it is certainly possible for CPU quarterbacks to play well lol.

                                I imagine the Fearless ability negating all pass pressure was helping him out a lot.

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