CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

[roadman]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

So, I started a new FM mode with the Packers again vs Vikes.

Cousins (cpu) threw for 70% with 0 picks, Rodgers (me) threw

for 69% and 3 picks.

2 of the 3 picks were goal line return for 6 picks into tight windows

near the goal line. My fault. The other pick was thrown into traffic.

Agree there is a issue with the Int slider, especially cpu qb throws in a hurry.

Smart, higher rated cpu qb's that I have experienced throw it away after being

flushed from the pocket or throw it out of bounds.

Cousins did this and also had misthrows down the field because of pressure.

Just saying with the proper tools, cpu qb throws are not always Int's, but I have

seen enough evidence there are enough of it to be fixed through a title update.

Careful on what and how you update, EA.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Just a couple of suggestions for anyone who may wanna try it. If not that's cool too. Go in to Player Traits for QB(I'm doing starting QB's only):

1) Change Forces Passes to either Conservative or Ideal. Do NOT use Aggressive.

2) Change Sense Pressure to either Ideal, Average, or Oblivious. I would not recommend using Paranoid and definitely not Trigger Happy.

3) Set Throw Away to Yes.


I did this last night and in the games I watched, it cut down on the QB's going into "panic mode" which when that happens leads to the excessive INT's. Just a resource if anyone wants to try it out.


For anyone interested, here are some definitions I found on the net for these QB Traits:

Throw Away- Knows when to throw the ball away

Trigger Happy Sense of Pressure- Quick to throw at the slightest pressure

Paranoid Sense of Pressure: Very antsy in the pocket

Ideal Sense of Pressure- Calm but aware of defenders while in the pocket

Average Sense of Pressure- Decent ability to recongize pressure

Oblivious Sense of Pressure- Needs to speed up internal clock in pocket

Conservative Forcing Passes- Quick to take the checkdown

Ideal Forcing Passes- Will take calculated risks as a passer

Aggressive Forcing Passes- Never seen a window he won't throw into

[briz1046]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Just a couple of suggestions for anyone who may wanna try it. If not that's cool too. Go in to Player Traits for QB(I'm doing starting QB's only):

1) Change Forces Passes to either Conservative or Ideal. Do NOT use Aggressive.

2) Change Sense Pressure to either Ideal, Average, or Oblivious. I would not recommend using Paranoid and definitely not Trigger Happy.

3) Set Throw Away to Yes.


I did this last night and in the games I watched, it cut down on the QB's going into "panic mode" which when that happens leads to the excessive INT's. Just a resource if anyone wants to try it

Whilst I understand this thread is primarily concerned with the INT issue , I've found the trigger happy trait helpful in alleviating to some extent the excessive sack issue that usually comes with lengthening Q times .

With my sliders I've managed to reduce the INT issue somewhat except when dealing with the DB superstar ability ' acrobat " which alone can contribute 25 - 30 % of the INTs I've seen

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Whilst I understand this thread is primarily concerned with the INT issue , I've found the trigger happy trait helpful in alleviating to some extent the excessive sack issue that usually comes with lengthening Q times .

With my sliders I've managed to reduce the INT issue somewhat except when dealing with the DB superstar ability ' acrobat " which alone can contribute 25 - 30 % of the INTs I've seen

This is wild. Darius Slay broke the INT record in my first season and he has the acrobat ability. He picked off Davis Mills every time in the 4 INT game he had against me. Has there been much testing to see if the Acrobat ability is the main issue? The AI is still making dumb decisions, but the worst ones i've seen have gone to Slay.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Whilst I understand this thread is primarily concerned with the INT issue , I've found the trigger happy trait helpful in alleviating to some extent the excessive sack issue that usually comes with lengthening Q times .

With my sliders I've managed to reduce the INT issue somewhat except when dealing with the DB superstar ability ' acrobat " which alone can contribute 25 - 30 % of the INTs I've seen

I wonder if Jalen Ramsey has the Acrobat Ability too, because I've tested with the Rams a lot and he get's a lot of picks as well; even against guys like Stephon Diggs.

[briz1046]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

This is wild. Darius Slay broke the INT record in my first season and he has the acrobat ability. He picked off Davis Mills every time in the 4 INT game he had against me. Has there been much testing to see if the Acrobat ability is the main issue? The AI is still making dumb decisions, but the worst ones i've seen have gone to Slay.

Its certainly not the only issue, I've always been able to stabilise INTs at ' realistic ' levels in previous years just with sliders , but IMO it certainly IS a factor , id say its overpowered at the risk of sounding like a knee- jerk type . Unless there is a recognition and EA driven solution in the future im planning on editing this ability out of my franchise . My only hesitation will be finding a way to differentiate the players like Xavien Howard where its currently applied

[briz1046]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

I wonder if Jalen Ramsey has the Acrobat Ability too, because I've tested with the Rams a lot and he get's a lot of picks as well; even against guys like Stephon Diggs.

He does, I think 4 or 5 CBs have it

[GoJags904]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

I wonder if Jalen Ramsey has the Acrobat Ability too, because I've tested with the Rams a lot and he get's a lot of picks as well; even against guys like Stephon Diggs.

Can't catch Ramsey. Love the guy and he's a beast but that made me laugh. Ton of ints. Like when has that ever happened lol.

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[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Can't catch Ramsey. Love the guy and he's a beast but that made me laugh. Ton of ints. Like when has that ever happened lol.

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LOL, well he has hands like Ed Reed on Madden lol.

[BlackRonin]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

[QUOTE=TarHeelPhenom;2050646553]Just a couple of suggestions for anyone who may wanna try it. If not that's cool too. Go in to Player Traits for QB(I'm doing starting QB's only):

1) Change Forces Passes to either Conservative or Ideal. Do NOT use Aggressive.

2) Change Sense Pressure to either Ideal, Average, or Oblivious. I would not recommend using Paranoid and definitely not Trigger Happy.

3) Set Throw Away to Yes.


I was just about to post this. I've seen the number of ints reduced drastically by editing the QB traits.

[briz1046]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

For full clarity the CBs I've watched largely have both superstar abilities * acrobat * and * pick artist* and im not totally sure which is the worst ' culprit' .
Pick artist seems responsible for the jumping routes INT whilst acrobat gives superhuman diving INTs , certainly id say the combination is deadly and OP in my view .

Either way switching off superstar abilities certainly lowers INT totals but is move im reluctant to make as they do help differentiating players in general

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

For full clarity the CBs I've watched largely have both superstar abilities * acrobat * and * pick artist* and im not totally sure which is the worst ' culprit' .
Pick artist seems responsible for the jumping routes INT whilst acrobat gives superhuman diving INTs , certainly id say the combination is deadly and OP in my view .

Either way switching off superstar abilities certainly lowers INT totals but is move im reluctant to make as they do help differentiating players in general

Yeah, you definitely want them to play as close to real life as possible. Maybe lowering their Catch rating would be better? I don't mind them jumping routes and diving for interceptions as long as most of the passes hit the ground.

EA has always been heavy handed when it comes to ratings in their games. They've always gone the way of the high end instead of the low end.

[briz1046]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Yeah, you definitely want them to play as close to real life as possible. Maybe lowering their Catch rating would be better? I don't mind them jumping routes and diving for interceptions as long as most of the passes hit the ground.

EA has always been heavy handed when it comes to ratings in their games. They've always gone the way of the high end instead of the low end.

A mass lowering of defensive catch / CIT ratings may be a good solution... it is however a lot of work alas ...but maybe ?

I usually spend a lot of time editing a roster to my preferences anyway, adding PS players not on the default roster and adjusting the O/D line balance somewhat especially regarding IDL skill moves

[Jagsfan24]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

I was also wondering about the catch rating to, wonder if you tone that down how will it do

[CujoMatty]

Re: CPU Quarterback Play (Behavior Under Pressure, Interceptions) Thread

Had to put the game down for a few days out of frustration but last night I fired it up and started season 2 of my franchise.

The good news is it was the first game since I got 23 that I didn't throw an interception.

The bad news is Stephon Gilmore had 4 first half picks, 3 were for TDs than I got one more with another guy before half. None in the second half. The game seemed to flip a switch like 5 was the max it would give.

The other bummer is they were all just really dumb decisions by the cpu under no pressure at all. I have cpu pass block maxed to help the crazy amount of sacks I was getting.