Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

[Skyyplum]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Well, I tried what you said Ian for the fix to franchise freezing and it worked the first time but not once since. I save after a game, quit franchise mode, reload the franchise and the game still freezes at the first play call screen. If the patch fixes this than it can't come soon enough because this is beyond frustrating.

[Skyyplum]

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Plus one more thing, how can some of you say that the problems on that list don't make the game unplayable? I think when a game freezes in certain areas non stop to the point where you have to shut your system down is an issue that can make a game unplayable. Plus shutting a system down over and over is not very good for the system .

[brendanrfoley]

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I think it's interesting some of us see no freezes (such as myself), while others do.

Shouldn't that tell people that it is hard to tell what is causing the crashes and, therefore, fix them?

[xxzone]

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That "yeah yeah you didn't have to run out an buy it" argument is tired man! They brought this all upon themselves by taking the cowards way out and making it so they had zero competition in the market.

People have every right to hold EA to a higher standard due to this, and the dog sludge that they put out this year wouldn't have been acceptable with even 2 other competitors. They wanted it all, and now people are going to expect a ton from them...especially me. I always played both games when there wasn't a choice, but now that there isn't I'm always going to want what was in the other game also.

The one year 2k get their football game on track, and had a great platform to build on for years to come, and it was squashed, so yeah people have every right to go off on it. You have no other option thanks to this mess, so of course people are going to want to buy it and hope for the best. When it doesn't live up to the hype they have every right to get mad.

On top of all that, since when has it been "ok" to release games that freeze? Never, but now that's becoming the standard, and they will just patch it later. This is exactly what people didn't want with the ability to patch game, and unfortunately EA is doing exactly what people feared patching ability in games on consoles would do. Freezes hardly ever happened before the patchable systems, but now it's starting to be common place.

So yeah....I was kinda forced into purchasing/renting the game if I wanted any new NFL experience this year, so I'm going to vent as much as I see fit due to EA wanting to be the head NFL @##%# and them not coming even close to living up to what they should be.

[Vikes1]

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You are missing a group. The people who like the game are thankful for the fixes that they didn't have to make but are upset about the freezing issues that shouldn't have made the disk.

This is the group I'm in.

To me...Madden '09' is by far the best playing [gameplay wise] Madden game of this generation. I really like the game...warts and all. Now I don't like to have to play with blinders on over certain things, but many of these issues are being addressed with patch #2. So that will help a lot...and I'm thankful for that.

As for the freezing issues...myself, I've just started my franchise. So I haven't as of yet suffered any lock ups. But of all the issues, for franchise gamers...your franchise freezing up IMO is the biggest problem. For me, no other issue is as frustrating as having 2-3 seasons worth of my time invested into franchise mode...only to have all those hours wasted by having the game lock up.

I may be wrong, but my understanding is that some "stability" issues are being addressed with patch #2. [in game freezes] But franchise lock ups overall...were not. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

In the meantime...and however Madden '09' ends up after the patches and DLC has run it's course, I plan on enjoying the game the best I can. All I really hope for is that a great deal of my time isn't wasted by the dreaded franchise freeze. Barring that...I'll be more than pleased with this years game.

[brendanrfoley]

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That "yeah yeah you didn't have to run out an buy it" argument is tired man! They brought this all upon themselves by taking the cowards way out and making it so they had zero competition in the market.

You're missing a key fact. The NFL approached developers, not the other way around.

[TheMatrix31]

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So yeah....I was kinda forced into purchasing/renting the game if I wanted any new NFL experience this year, so I'm going to vent as much as I see fit due to EA wanting to be the head NFL @##%# and them not coming even close to living up to what they should be.

You're not forced to do anything.

[nookiebear]

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man I am glad EA can fix all this stuff but what are the PS3ers supposed to play?

Madden-waiting for patch
NCAA-waiting for patch
Head Coach-waiting for patch

WTF? I think EA should hire better testers

I read this morning a letter in an English newspaper claiming that the new Tiger Woods is full of glitches as well. Apparently, when you beat Tiger at golf, the game crashes

Haha, you gotta laugh. Good old EA. Can't wait to see what problems FIFA's got

[nookiebear]

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That "yeah yeah you didn't have to run out an buy it" argument is tired man! They brought this all upon themselves by taking the cowards way out and making it so they had zero competition in the market.

People have every right to hold EA to a higher standard due to this, and the dog sludge that they put out this year wouldn't have been acceptable with even 2 other competitors. They wanted it all, and now people are going to expect a ton from them...especially me. I always played both games when there wasn't a choice, but now that there isn't I'm always going to want what was in the other game also.

The one year 2k get their football game on track, and had a great platform to build on for years to come, and it was squashed, so yeah people have every right to go off on it. You have no other option thanks to this mess, so of course people are going to want to buy it and hope for the best. When it doesn't live up to the hype they have every right to get mad.

On top of all that, since when has it been "ok" to release games that freeze? Never, but now that's becoming the standard, and they will just patch it later. This is exactly what people didn't want with the ability to patch game, and unfortunately EA is doing exactly what people feared patching ability in games on consoles would do. Freezes hardly ever happened before the patchable systems, but now it's starting to be common place.

So yeah....I was kinda forced into purchasing/renting the game if I wanted any new NFL experience this year, so I'm going to vent as much as I see fit due to EA wanting to be the head NFL @##%# and them not coming even close to living up to what they should be.

Spot on - they release a game that freezes then people come on here and say stuff like "you didn't have to buy it" or "you're acting like a spoilt child you should be grateful"

I don't play many games - mainly Resi Evil 4, Bioshock, Pro Evo, Fifa, Madden for the PS2 and Tomb Raider. None have freezed on me.

This is basic stuff, innit?

[adembroski]

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I read this morning a letter in an English newspaper claiming that the new Tiger Woods is full of glitches as well. Apparently, when you beat Tiger at golf, the game crashes

It's not a glitch, it's a feature! Because if someone ever really does beat Tiger, the world will end!

[adembroski]

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You are missing a group. The people who like the game are thankful for the fixes that they didn't have to make but are upset about the freezing issues that shouldn't have made the disk.

Look man I like EA ,always have. It is just the last two years franchise mode has had freezing issues. I buy about a lot of games every year and I haven't bought one other game that freezes on me. (ps2 or 3) I have owned every madden since it first came out and only the last two years of ps3 have crashes on me. I think I have bought about 15 ps3 games and only madden 08 and 09 have crashed. No one expects to buy a game and have it freeze. I am not pissed like I was last year. I am not calling EA crap or anyone else. But I am not jumping up and down when they fix THIS (freezing) issue, it is a must fix for any game developer.

I do think Ian was on the 09 team. I have read a ton of posts prior to the release of this game where he was tweaking the gamplay, using our input which is awesome. I think I even read you posting on one of them, I think he quoted you from another site. I thought he was the gameplay lead on 09? I could be wrong but that was my understanding. Ian is a great guy. I am not blaming him in any regards I think he is probably the best guy for us comminity guys on the team ever. I think 2010, if it doesn't crash, will by far be the best madden ever for franchise people.

Anyway, I agree with TJ now this post is so far off the topic of the patch that I am not going to responde to any thing but that topic any more.

Ian was working on what he called a "super secret project". He did carry our concerns to the gameplay team at times and made suggestions, but he was not actively involved in the 09 project.

[countryboy]

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That "yeah yeah you didn't have to run out an buy it" argument is tired man! They brought this all upon themselves by taking the cowards way out and making it so they had zero competition in the market.

so is the argument that someone has "wasted money again on a Madden game" or the "Madden stole my money" or the argument that you reference above.

So yeah....I was kinda forced into purchasing/renting the game if I wanted any new NFL experience this year, so I'm going to vent as much as I see fit due to EA wanting to be the head NFL @##%# and them not coming even close to living up to what they should be.

Ok, this made me laugh. "forced into purchasing/renting the game"? What kind of marketing is EA using these days.

[callmetaternuts]

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so is the argument that someone has "wasted money again on a Madden game" or the "Madden stole my money" or the argument that you reference above.





Ok, this made me laugh. "forced into purchasing/renting the game"? What kind of marketing is EA using these days.

I was forced into reading his original post, can i get my money back?

[boooey]

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you know.. maybe its just time EA dumps Tiburon.

They do not seem to be up to the challenge of developing a next generation football game.

[driftwood]

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any update on this patch#2 release? (i knows its only been about a week)

kinda just skimmed by most of the posts...

& is it for sure comming out for 360 & PS3 @ the same time? cause thats not the case for the NCAA croud... PS3 got screwed with a longer wait...


outside of the franchise issues like progression & freezing, none of the other issues bothered me...

game looks great in HD... but this game makes me sad with the lack of fnished quality with gameplay/franchise...

just a few weeks ago i bought PS3 for madden (contemplated keeping my trusty ps2 around for another madden season before buying a ps3)

now i pay good $ for a new gen console & the games look better (no doubt) but have many more flaws compared to late gen consoles & thats not the impression developers will want to leave on thier customers...

in no way should ps2 still be more complete/finished game-wise then ps3...

im glad somethings getting done in the form of patches (this is normal for me comming from the PC croud), but the severity of some of these issues should have never made it this far into game release without being caught by development...



also... any update of when we will be seeing the final cut roster updates (hopefully next week)? or will this also be effected with timing from the patch#2 release?




nice to see development supporting thier game (as they should), lets just hope its equal for all consoles & not just the 360 first...