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  • Mindflare210
    Banned
    • Aug 2009
    • 230

    #301
    Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

    Originally posted by MAHAM
    What does this mean? For the record, I hate how fatigue subs out Reggie Wayne or subs WR's for cornerbacks.

    I know it's not your typo, but it should read "made fatigue AFFECT ratings more". They put effect.

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    • cowboy_kmoney
      MVP
      • Jun 2008
      • 1621

      #302
      So they didnt add draft history in this patch? man thats messed up if they didnt.

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      • CSL
        Pro
        • Aug 2009
        • 628

        #303
        Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Mindflare210
        I know it's not your typo, but it should read "made fatigue AFFECT ratings more". They put effect.
        You are a joke.
        Yeah.

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52693

          #304
          Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

          Originally posted by Palo20
          I've found that you have to supersim at about 5 or 6 minutes to get the realistic number of plays. One of the problems of supersim is there are no assisted tackles at all, only solo.
          thanks for the heads up man, its greatly appreciated.
          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52693

            #305
            Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

            Originally posted by cowboy_kmoney
            So they didnt add draft history in this patch? man thats messed up if they didnt.
            its not going to be added this year.
            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


            Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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            • Buck Degrah
              Banned
              • Aug 2009
              • 44

              #306
              Might have missed this somewhere but did they tone down the 'measure to see if its a first down, or td'' animation that happens way to often?

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52693

                #307
                Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                Originally posted by Djlilt
                With the releAse of this patch, will I...
                Be able to fire this game up and start a franchise on all-pro difficulty, without having to F' around with all the sliders! Better yet, is anybody playing w/o sliders and getting any enjoyment & realistic games?
                I play without sliders and have been having fun with the game.
                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                • hummer24g
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10

                  #308
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                  People complained about having first down animations in and now they complain we have them! make up your mind people game can be better yes, but game could be nfl fever

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                  • reyes the roof
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 11521

                    #309
                    Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by TCrouch
                    It used to make them tired, then take them out of the game.

                    Now, as they get tired, they also get slower/weaker, etc.

                    So leaving guys in there who are wrecked and tired *should* (in theory) have them perform horribly.

                    This means long, sustained 15 or 18 play drives should see DT's getting blown off the ball, etc.
                    The only problem with this is guys on offense get tired too on long drives and get subbed out, and you never ever in real life see an offensive lineman come out for a breather because he is tired from a long drive

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                    • ghostlight85
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 435

                      #310
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                      Certainly some improvements are made with the patch, especially playing with default sliders.

                      I usually play with custom sliders, but I bumped everything back to default and played on all pro to test out the patch. Here are my impressions to this point.

                      Release problem appears to be fixed, the only issue is that corners in man coverage with a safety over the top still allow receivers too much access to inside routes. This makes 2 man under less useful as a defense because you can throw underneath all day and unless a linebacker is in a zone and makes a good read it is gravy. It seems very rare for a corner, even a shutdown corner like awesome-wa, to win a man coverage one on one situation. This should be true to some extent, but not when it's a mismatch of a top tier corner against a mediocre receiver. The matchup that led me to this reaction was using the dolphins against the raiders, I was able to easily throw at Asomugha with either Ginn or Camarillo lined up against him.

                      Run Blocking is better at default slider settings than before, but is still better served with some custom slider stuff, it appears. Easy enough to fix, if you ask me.

                      However, CPU running logic/blocking still appears to be severely hampered by the stupids. Something just doesn't work right here and it's hard to place what it is. There's always a free man to hit the running back, but I'm not sure it's solely a blocking issue. I think the angles and holes that the RBs choose might be playing into it. I've rarely seen any creativity from backs making them very predictable and leading to a lot of negative yardage plays by the cpu. Also, the game is a little too easy to predict run/pass. Especially with plays that snap on motion. CPU sliders don't seem to alleviate this problem much. I've tried pre and post patch and can't seem to get the cpu to run the ball to any success.

                      Flats, as LBzRule has pointed out, remain an issue. It's multiple things here, the pursuit angles are still hinky and the CPU still blitzes too often and too brazenly. 5 and 6 man rushes should be far more common than 7 and 8, and I'm not sure the CPU playcalling engine has any distinction between them. They all just register as a blitz. I'd almost rather the CPU playbooks just not include an 8 man rush if this is the way they are going to use it.

                      3-4 is still far less effective than 4-3, in my opinion, at least as far as creating any sort of pass rush is concerned. Blitzing line backers don't fool the CPU o-line at all, and rarely create any pressure, even when they have a numbers advantage on one side of the line.

                      All in all, I have found my enjoyment in this game already using sliders, and the patch is going to make that easier, I think. Even with the continued issues, my last game was Chargers-Dolphins and it was a blast. I've adjusted sliders a bit to my likings, but nothing severe. The game very closely mirrored the Dolphins-Colts game on monday.

                      I have noticed the odd hitching on long plays that others have complained of. Doesn't seem to effect the outcome of the play as of yet, for me.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52693

                        #311
                        Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by ddaugherty
                        ok just downloaded the patch...can someone please tell me why the computer has thrown the ball EVERY PLAY???
                        who are you playing?

                        I played the Lions with my first game and out of 71 plays, they ran the ball 31 times. They passed a majority of the 4th quarter due to them trailing by 2 scores.
                        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                        Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                        • Jesus
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1860

                          #312
                          Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                          Madden is just a bad game. And this patch is just a band-aid with holes in it.

                          I just played this game online and it is incredible how every team blocks like the damn Giants. I blitz with the Steelers and EVERYONE is picked up by the Niners damn near every time. Gore ran for almost 200yrds.

                          And im not some arrogant player who does not realize when he's made a mistake with his play calling. I am well aware that I am human. But when im blitzing the correct gaps, men and direction and all of them get picked up constantly by C grade players, something is wrong.

                          Also what they did to counter the flats was idiotic. They have made them actually walk on certain routes and even then the closest player wont guard them so when they decide to run THEY STILL HAVE A HEAD START.

                          Its infuriating. The mechanics of this game are pathetic. Im literally seething because the people i was going against knew these were flaws and were milking them to the fullest.

                          Yea, Yea, "dont play online" .... i shouldnt have to duck people because the game does not do the basics correctly. Im not asking for much, just line the damn linebacker up with the running back out of the backfield. Make the blockers hit their correct assignment, not overpower them requardless of attributes.

                          I forgot to mention the pursuit angles are still pathetic.... combine that with the overpowering blocking and u have an idea of why im SEETHING.

                          Can someone explain why I have to fight my players to get them to take the correct angle WHILE IM CONTROLLING THEM??????
                          Last edited by Jesus; 09-24-2009, 05:51 PM.

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52693

                            #313
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by reyes the roof
                            The only problem with this is guys on offense get tired too on long drives and get subbed out, and you never ever in real life see an offensive lineman come out for a breather because he is tired from a long drive
                            set OL sub out to 0 and you will not see them being subbed out.
                            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                            Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                            • TMagic
                              G.O.A.T.
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 7550

                              #314
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                              I have a question about how patches work for anyone to answer.

                              For some reason, I can not get onto XBox live with my XBox.

                              So I took my hard drive off of my system and took it to my roommates system. Downloaded the patch there.

                              Now if I take it back to my XBox, will the patch be still in effect? Or does it only work with his XBox?
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                              • SoxFan01605
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 7982

                                #315
                                Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by TMagic
                                I have a question about how patches work for anyone to answer.

                                For some reason, I can not get onto XBox live with my XBox.

                                So I took my hard drive off of my system and took it to my roommates system. Downloaded the patch there.

                                Now if I take it back to my XBox, will the patch be still in effect? Or does it only work with his XBox?
                                Should be fine. The data is supposed to be stored to your game file, which is on your HDD.

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