Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase rate?

[TheShizNo1]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

they arent sports games!!!!

Its football, not shooters or story line driven games with mini games all over the place.

Each linemen already has a move set and you can use the R-stick or buttons to get around the linemen as it is. You just have to get the timing down if you want to be disruptive. No need to add a mini game for something thats already in the game. Just get better at it.

Dude, we live in the day and age of innovation. EA and Madden always want to go above and beyond what is expected. They could break ground with this: mini games, in sports games. You'd please a lot of people.

[LiquorLogic]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

everytime the user drops 20 yards the wall collapses instantly..... that would cure this problem IMO

That's not necessary or realistic. What will cure the problem is the DEs taking their heads outt their collective a**es and taking the b-line to the QB when they actually have one.

In all of the vids, I've seen QB's dropping back 20 yards and the DE has a b-line to the QB but keeps struggling against the OT.

The defensive AI is the problem.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

ALSO to prevent user catch cheese, you could to like nba 2k used to do with free throws where you had to line up both sides of the pressure sensitive triggers...one was each hand.

That would be sweet. This would also make bobbled footballs more of a factor. If you played using Kinect, you could have your hands match the hands the of the WR.

[Watson]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

How about a game where you jostle for position vs. a CB in order to catch a ball?

[canes21]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

I've read through this topic, every post, and still can't tell if this is a serious one. I know the Phalanx stuff was completely serious and I agree Madden needs it, but everything else is...

[ryan36]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

I've read through this topic, every post, and still can't tell if this is a serious one. I know the Phalanx stuff was completely serious and I agree Madden needs it, but everything else is...

Canes, you think the QB should be standing in the middle of a square shaped pocket of 40 greek soldiers?

[TheShizNo1]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

How about a game where you jostle for position vs. a CB in order to catch a ball?

Can't do that b/c of PI

[ryan36]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

How about a game where you jostle for position vs. a CB in order to catch a ball?

Quit trolling

[tatmanfish]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

Dude, we live in the day and age of innovation. EA and Madden always want to go above and beyond what is expected. They could break ground with this: mini games, in sports games. You'd please a lot of people.

yeah, thats why so many people have clammored for them to be taken out. Madden has had mini games before and they were met with great resisitence. If they want to go above and beyond, just fix the AI.

You can keep trying to sell your idea, it doesnt make it a good though.

Why have a mini game when all the moves are already in the game? Oh becaus ethey require some practice and skill as where a button mashing mini game just required you to push the button on the screen repeatedly.

Now it all makes sense, no skill equals easier options to stand a chance. You arent the same guy that wants rocket catches a suction back are you?

[TheShizNo1]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

I've read through this topic, every post, and still can't tell if this is a serious one. I know the Phalanx stuff was completely serious and I agree Madden needs it, but everything else is...

Why wouldn't it be serious? I think a lot of these could help Madden go above and beyond what gamers expect?

[canes21]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

Canes, you think the QB should be standing in the middle of a square shaped pocket of 40 greek soldiers?

Not 40, I was thinking maybe 50. That picture you posted looked a little weak compared to what I would build my team with. In 2k5 I always did my fantasy drafts in the same manner. Build from the inside out with the Phalanx your main focus.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

yeah, thats why so many people have clammored for them to be taken out. Madden has had mini games before and they were met with great resisitence. If they want to go above and beyond, just fix the AI.

You can keep trying to sell your idea, it doesnt make it a good though.

Why have a mini game when all the moves are already in the game? Oh becaus ethey require some practice and skill as where a button mashing mini game just required you to push the button on the screen repeatedly.

Now it all makes sense, no skill equals easier options to stand a chance. You arent the same guy that wants rocket catches a suction back are you?

It's just like games that have hidden characters. You have to find people to unleash them. Like Finn unleashed the hidden pictures with his 2K5 editor. Well, the moves are already in the game, they just need help getting unleashed. These mini games will help unleash them.

[ryan36]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

Not 40, I was thinking maybe 50. That picture you posted looked a little weak compared to what I would build my team with. In 2k5 I always did my fantasy drafts in the same manner. Build from the inside out with the Phalanx your main focus.

My guess is you then switch to first person view so you could be the guy in the middle of those soldiers as QB?

[BezO]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

A lot of great games have meters; GOW III, CoD, Batman: AA, etc

Don't knock it until you try it

A lot of great games don't.

I don't like the meters in the game now. I definitely don't want any more. They're distracting, ugly, unneccesary & intrusive.

More variation on the current pressure sensitive pass buttons can do all of what you all are suggesting without cluttering up the screen.

I'm not happy with the animations, but I still want to watch the action while I play, not a meter.

[tatmanfish]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

Skill, no suction, and improved AI will unleash it. Mini games just ruin the realistic aspect of the game. Its an attempt to be a simulation style football game, not NFL Blitz.

I mean if you suck at manual pass rushing, there are people taht can help you become better along with practicing on your own. No need to dumb down the game for those who havent taken the time to learn the timing and art of pass rushing.

Thanks for confirming your trolling as well. How did those suction and rocket catch threads turn out?