Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase rate?

[ryan36]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

Playing in 1st person when using the Phalanx formation was always so much fun, but I felt cheap because I usually couldn't be stopped. It seemed like USC and Michigan State always put out the best players for the Phalanx.

I see what you did there....

[Skyboxer]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

What madden needs is the analog throwing meter/system like The Show's Analog Fielding.

I have the John Elway Arcade machine (4 player) that had the analog stick for passing

[ryan36]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

I have the John Elway Arcade machine (4 player) that had the analog stick for passing

and wasn't it awesome

[kehlis]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

I have the John Elway Arcade machine (4 player) that had the analog stick for passing

You have no idea how jealous I am of you for this.

[burter]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

You don't need a meter on screen if you're going to make block shedding based on button-mashing.

Tecmo Super Bowl did fine without one. The better players in that game required less "mashing" to get free from a block, whereas scrub players really had to mash hard to break free.

I kind of like this Idea. Maybe do it where say you are Justin Tuck you have a 90% chance by smashing those buttons to get passed your guy. And say Tuck was going against one of my sorry Cards OLman that has a 20% chance in holding his block. Justin would win a lot against that guy... Now say Justin Tuck was going against Joe Thomas and Thomas has a 90% chance to hold his block. Tuck will have a lot less chance to get passed his guy.

It will be, however, a bunch of button smashing and not sure if people want to go back to that.

Right now you have too many scrubs being able to hold Elite lineman a lot of times with how the game is now. Have to see how the no suction will come into play with madden 12. Maybe with sliders it won't be as bad as before.

[canes21]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

I am glad someone brought this thread back up. It is filled with so many great ideas EA could use for future titles. Heck, if EA wants the GOTY next year, then invite everyone from this topic to help with the game. I assume ryan would gladly work on the Phalanx with me.

[ltzraymond]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

Madden could just allow different button combinations for like a bull rush or other techniques to get to the qb. Like isomotion in 2k11.

[ryan36]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

I am glad someone brought this thread back up. It is filled with so many great ideas EA could use for future titles. Heck, if EA wants the GOTY next year, then invite everyone from this topic to help with the game. I assume ryan would gladly work on the Phalanx with me.

Absolutely, we could program the AI, and get the fullback to actually block. "Follow the lead Trojan spear"

[KalimbeNaire]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

The art of the pass rush is not all about strength. There are some finesse guys who get to the QB and are just as disruptive as the brutes who can just toss 300lbs around like it is nothing. Dwight Freeney and his washing machine spin move comes to mind immediately.

The idea that I had in mind is not that a separate screen would pop up and just show your D-lineman and blocker in action against each other, but rather whatever meter or button pressing combos there would be would only show up on screen if you were actually controlling that player. I do like the idea of a Tecmo Bowl type function. I don't want it "dumbed down." I just want something that works. So Madden either has to come up with something like this or....

1) Overhaul the way blocking works, remove the suction blocking and actually include double team blocking.
2) Overhaul the animations on the moves already in the game so that once you get by a blocker with a rip, swim, or shove your player doesn't have to go through the obligatory 3-4 yards of animation before you have control over your player again.

I don't care what way Madden goes with it just as long as it works. I know I am not supposed to be posting up 5-6 sacks a game with one player, but when you can go 2-3 games in a CPU versus CPU matchup and not have anybody recording a sack...that's an issue.

[canes21]

Re: Why can't they have a slider where DE(s) can collapse the pocket at an increase r

Absolutely, we could program the AI, and get the fullback to actually block. "Follow the lead Trojan spear"

But balance is the key. 9 out of 10 times the Trojan spear will beat his man, so we need to make sure we get it to work that way. Or we could keep the game fun and make the Phalanx a lot weaker than it is in real life and only have it work 7 out of 10 times.