Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[StanleyStutters]

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But there is no electrical wiring and the plumbing doesn't work. Enjoy!

And only the homeowner is allowed in. Any friends or family members have to stay outside.

[DNMHIII]

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But there is no electrical wiring and the plumbing doesn't work. Enjoy!

Contractor notes from customer:
Customer wants great craftsmanship with quality materials and fixtures. Has been burned by other contractors in the past and just wants to finally get a job done right and without compromises and shortcuts since he's paying top dollar for the job

Contractor notes from punch list:
Well, its amazing and I can't get over how good the paint looks. Sure there's a few things here and there like electrical covers and such, but nothing big and it's another job well done.

Contractor notes from walkthrough with customer:
Totally caught off guard by client beeing upset with missing electrical and plumbing. Paint and yard looks amazing, but client still unhappy about things missing from house that we just didn't feel were that big off a deal. Sticking with me guns though with client that plumbing was way to risky and so what if we ran out of time to get the other stuff done. Bahamas baby here I come!

[GiantBlue76]

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Contractor notes from customer:
Customer wants great craftsmanship with quality materials and fixtures. Has been burned by other contractors in the past and just wants to finally get a job done right and without compromises and shortcuts since he's paying top dollar for the job

Contractor notes from punch list:
Well, its amazing and I can't get over how good the paint looks. Sure there's a few things here and there like electrical covers and such, but nothing big and it's another job well done.

Contractor notes from walkthrough with customer:
Totally caught off guard by client beeing upset with missing electrical and plumbing. Paint and yard looks amazing, but client still unhappy about things missing from house that we just didn't feel were that big off a deal. Sticking with me guns though with client that plumbing was way to risky and so what if we ran out of time to get the other stuff done. Bahamas baby here I come!

This is exactly how I've felt for years (along with some other guys).

[Big FN Deal]

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PG you know you are cool with me but that analogy is a little hyperbolic, imo. lol

I liked the one about "no one can visit", that seems more apt but C'mon man, the "wiring" in CCM may work fine.

It's more like buying and owning that beautiful home but still having to be beholden to a landlord's tenant rules like no remodeling or visitors, at least the first year. lol

[Senator Palmer]

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I wonder with the TSO will players be looked at as football players instead of a positions, for example since WE CAN'T EDIT will a specific 4-3 DE be rating high in a 3-4 scheme as a OLB on a depth chart? How about DT's to DE's

How about that rookie CB that fits the mold of a potential good SS?

HB's to WR? FB to TE's???

My gut says no because it wasn't the case in HC09 if I remember correctly.

I'd guess no also. If there's no position editing, I don't see the CPU evaluating players by anything other than the position they are designated. Kamerion Wimbley, a college DE, has been playing OLB his entire professional career. The Titans signed him as a full-time DE this offseason to help with the pass rush. I just don't see that happening in CC.

In the game I'm guessing he'd only be evaluated as a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 OLB. That really is a shame. The more I think about it, the more limiting I see this becoming. Every draft has tweener/hybrid type players who teams project to 2 different positions and that winds up carrying all kinds of implications on who gets re-signed, who doesn't, how far a guy moves up the board, etc.

[Jd_Seven]

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But the home owners association doesn't allow the use of an outhouse and the fire marshal said you can only burn candles under the supervision of Donny Moore.

Absolutely brilliant.

[Jukeman]

I'd guess no also. If there's no position editing, I don't see the CPU evaluating players by anything other than the position they are designated. Kamerion Wimbley, a college DE, has been playing OLB his entire professional career. The Titans signed him as a full-time DE this offseason to help with the pass rush. I just don't see that happening in CC.

In the game I'm guessing he'd only be evaluated as a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 OLB. That really is a shame. The more I think about it, the more limiting I see this becoming. Every draft has tweener/hybrid type players who teams project to 2 different positions and that winds up carrying all kinds of implications on who gets re-signed, who doesn't, how far a guy moves up the board, etc.

Position editing (and setting team's depth charts; can we still editi the CPU's depth charts?) was another way for me as a single player to maximize the AI for better competition, I didn't want an advantage going up against the AI so I treated them fairly by making decisions like this.

It would suck if a team switched from a 3-4 to a 4-3 without moving players around to accommodate.

Maybe in the future they'll also figure out a way so that players could project to positions based on offense/defense philosophies.

[edaddy]

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I already know those things I am talking about overall ratings.

I'm speaking about the AI making a decision on their depth chart to maximise their roster by shuffling players around. Maybe a team is looking for a OLB to fit their 3-4 scheme, their are no OLB in FA or in the draft that fits their mold. Will the AI be smart enough to look at a DE who can potentially play OLB on their depth chart?

That is what I am asking.

Basically if the AI is running a 3-4, will it see a specific DE just as a 60 OVR or will it see him as a 60 OVR DE AND a 75 OVR OLB.

Good points man I asked a question similiar to this on another thread regarding this and the AI logic regarding substitutions in certain packages meaning will the AI just substitute due to fatigue or will the AI actually substitute certain situational players based on certain formations and packages.....part of the reasoning for controlling 32 teams was the ability to do just that...the answer? crickets.....LOL

[Jukeman]

Good points man I asked a question similiar to this on another thread regarding this and the AI logic regarding substitutions in certain packages meaning will the AI just substitute due to fatigue or will the AI actually substitute certain situational players based on certain formations and packages.....part of the reasoning for controlling 32 teams was the ability to do just that...the answer? crickets.....LOL

I agree, I did the same the with packages and use to do the same with formation subs until that was removed.

Those "little things" are actually huge for some people..

[Pinnaql3]

So, I'm just catching up on this. This is kinda weird. You can change your depth chart though, right?
You just have to wait for EA(Donny Moore) to upgrade the official roster for up to date signings and injuries.etc.??? And you can't change the appearance of any players???

[krong1170]

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Twitter feeds ? Not that I don't like them just much lower on my personal wishlist than editing

This is the problem, they decide what is important to us in a game rather than asking us what is important. I can't move Mario Williams back to DE, but hey I can see Skip Bayless tweet about Tim Tebow!

[krong1170]

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But there is no electrical wiring and the plumbing doesn't work. Enjoy!

Contractor: I don't understand why they're upset. I mean sure I didn't ask them whether or not electricity and plumbing were important, but I talked to my employees and they were sure they would be exicited about the mailbox. I mean I build houses, I know whats important for someone to have in their house more than they do, they don't know what they want.

[GiantBlue76]

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Contractor: I don't understand why they're upset. I mean sure I didn't ask them whether or not electricity and plumbing were important, but I talked to my employees and they were sure they would be exicited about the mailbox. I mean I build houses, I know whats important for someone to have in their house more than they do, they don't know what they want.

Don't forget, this:

Contractor: Indoor plumbing can be added next year. We're going to hold off on electricity though, because we definitely want something to do for the year after that. In addition, the electricity will only light half of the house. If you're lucky, we'll come back mid year and light the other half. Otherwise, you'll have to wait until next year. With these great improvements, the house is really headed in the right direction as far as being compared to all of the other houses in the neighborhood.

[cuttingteeth]

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This is the problem, they decide what is important to us in a game rather than asking us what is important. I can't move Mario Williams back to DE, but hey I can see Skip Bayless tweet about Tim Tebow!

Yup. They can't code the program for editing players for our use in CCM, they can code for outside of CCM, they say it's the same code and ONLY code the game is built upon, it is said to be too complex to change at short notice or in short time but they also show us they can obviously code a Twitter clone into their program for use that allows for likely 32,000 possible storylines to completely made up (also coded) draft rookies.

I have never seen so much talking in circles with this game franchise. They've at least reached a new high in that regard.

[DNMHIII]

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Yup. They can't code the program for editing players for our use in CCM, they can code for outside of CCM, they say it's the same code and ONLY code the game is built upon, it is said to be too complex to change at short notice or in short time but they also show us they can obviously code a Twitter clone into their program for use that allows for likely 32,000 possible storylines to completely made up (also coded) draft rookies.

I have never seen so much talking in circles with this game franchise. They've at least reached a new high in that regard.

If I was to point to one area where EA has really stepped up their game this year this would be it...lol