Madden NFL 13 Roster Editing Issue Rears Its Ugly Head

[bichettehappens]

I completely disagree. Even arcade players love editing players up. Specially stat editing. I think the minority are the people who wouldn't want that option. The only people Im seeing stand up for the decision are the ones who I have come to expect to

and the poll you mentioned was based on when people thought we could edit pre ccm nd use the file. We just learned yesterday via Steve that there is zero editing on anything besides play it now games.

You may have misinterpreted what I'm saying. I'm not saying a majority don't care, I'm saying a majority would not be up in arms screaming "game breaker!" about it.

And ok, let's double the results of that poll, 0.06% is not going to hurt their wallets. The fact remains that unless a much larger portion of the community voices their frustration, they won't be forced into doing anything about it immediately.

[jpollard25]

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I think I may have meant to quote the post you quoted... I don't have a full pot of coffee yet so therefore my thought process is still suspect

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[RynoAid]

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Casey, Ryno, have they said whether some of the generated features (assigned numbers & equipment for new players) will work better this year? Have they said they have dedicated more resources to make this area work better this year since there is no editing?

Since there is no editing, I would have thought they would at least discuss those aspects being improved and worked on in the new CCM. By not saying anything, all we have to go by is their track record of it not working well in the past. I get that it is a new mode, but I would have expected a mention of it being tweaked in the new mode somewhere along the line (blogs or E3 videos). Did they work on improving this area at all?

I will probably get one more good look at CCM before it's released. I will certainly ask about it and see what i can dig up for you guys.

[moylan1234]

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Where were the facts posted at?

don't you start up with me too man. I'm with you on this issue.

the facts I was referring to is the fact of every sports game out there having this function

[wheelman990]

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Hey Wheel,

I had every madden from 1988 (apple 2e) until 2000. Then I bought 2k. I played online head to head against friends during that time. Before that I played Madden on the genesis against friends and then I entered the online league realm on the PC. The PC had a fully functional online franchise back then, it was amazing. Then of course, they removed it, so I know exactly how you feel. 2k came out and I played the hell out of it online head to head against friends until 2k5 had full support for online leagues, then i played that. Then I lost my favorite brand of football to play all together. Trust me, I know exactly how it feels to have what you enjoy taken away. At least you can get yours back...

There are few people who are frustrated with Madden as much as I am, but connected careers is an awesome addition to this game. That much I am willing to say for sure.

I thought I remembered you from the 2k forums. Those were the days man, even with the finn editor. I thought I was in heaven when I purchased 2k5.

Ya, this editing thing really gets the blood pressure going,lol. Not easy to stay as "chill" as one would like. Anyway, hope they see people want that feature and decide to put it in!

I was pumped up for Madden 13, but this editing thing has me wondering if I should stick with Madden 12 another year and go to Madden 14.

[aholbert32]

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Here is my issue:

I see a TON of people in this forum saying "CCM is great" "Its so innovative" etc but hardly any of you have actually seen or played this mode. You are all going off of blogs and impressions by Game Changers. Even the GCs only saw a offline version of this mode in May. So what exactly are you basing this optimism on?

On the other hand, we have several people who are down on the mode. The difference is they have legitimate reasons to be down on the mode. They have confirmed that there is no editing, no multi team franchise, no NCAA import and very limited control over rosters. These things have been confirmed. But all I hear is "Give the mode a chance" "You wanted improvements and now you are complaining" "You are complaining before actually playing the mode".

The people who are down on the game are actually more justified with their complaints than the people who are positive right now. Why? Because the complainers know that key components of the game (to them) are missing. The praisers of the mode are going off of blogs and impressions (pretty much EA advertisements because of who they are coming from) to base their excitement.

I'm not gonna knock any one who is excited about this mode. I hope just as you do that the mode is going to be bug free and have intelligent AI. But dont knock me for being skeptical based on the Madden team's track record and the missing features.

[wheelman990]

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don't you start up with me too man. I'm with you on this issue.

the facts I was referring to is the fact of every sports game out there having this function

lol.

This editing thing has got my blood pressure up


Its almost like I finally said to myself, "wow this could be the madden game I been looking for!" Then, boom no editing players news hits. Total letdown. A year is a long time to wait. Please let this NFL exclusive deal expire!

[GiantBlue76]

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I thought I remembered you from the 2k forums. Those were the days man, even with the finn editor. I thought I was in heaven when I purchased 2k5.

Ya, this editing thing really gets the blood pressure going,lol. Not easy to stay as "chill" as one would like. Anyway, hope they see people want that feature and decide to put it in!

I was pumped up for Madden 13, but this editing thing has me wondering if I should stick with Madden 12 another year and go to Madden 14.

In all honesty, I plan on picking up a used copy and playing in my league. I am no longer running it as I have passed the torch, but it is still quality and the guys are fun to talk to and play the game with. The amount of work to run an online franchise up to this point was beyond ridiculous. I put in a ton of hours in building a web site, writing 3 solid rule books (gameplay, league, team management), having everything organized to the point of me being crazy (I'm a bit OCD). Without XFN (which did a nice job) it would have been impossible. That being said, the way you feel about the missing stuff is how I feel with respect to the gameplay. Madden pales in comparison to APF in that department and that game is a 5 year old port of an 8 year old game. I have little to no faith in the people producing the gameplay, but Looman is the one guy I actually think has some real talent there. This mode is really really late to the party, but it is finally something I think they did right.

[SteelerSpartan]

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Heres a question. What makes mr moores rosters so magical they we can only use HIS rosters in CC? Seems pretty redundant. If he can make changes to rosters that work in CC... Why can't we?

That's a pretty valid question I must say ....


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I kid...I kid....

I hope we can get someone to do a decent interview with them on this issue and where they see this stuff fitting into their timetable

I.E...Is this Priority Number 1 for Madden 14 CC Mode

[TreFacTor]

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This doesn't effect me but I see how it does others. I'm not going to sit here and say it's important or not important because I believe we all make our own determination in "what we can deal with" when it comes to sports games.

Having said that what I find a bit disturbing is for years people have screamed for EA to innovate. Stop doing "roster updates" give us something new.

CCM is something new and almost no one has played it yet but some people have already deemed it a failure. That's just absurd logic IMO.

I want to try it see what is good and what is missing. Figure out what "I can deal with" and if I can play it going forward. No one is going to know how it tastes and what it delivers until we dig into it and I for one, well I'm ready to eat.

I think that many people are taking the dejected comments to mean that they don't like CC at ALL. That's not the case (at least not with me). I think many were EXTREMELY stoked by the news, and the revelation of RTP (I know I was, and I've been banned from playing any EA game online for 3 years). Many of us that can't play online for whatever reason had grown accustomed to making the game "more playable" by updating the rosters on our own, making our offline only franchises closely resemble what is happening at that current time, and fixing little mistakes the devs themselves overlooked or deemed "insignificant" (player numbers, names, uniform gaffes). The new additions can not and should not be scoffed at, but where does that leave the online deficient? Maybe CC and RTP would have been enough [for us] if only they had left us offline players some flexibility to play the game how we want (with at least the ability to edit within our offline CC), now we can only play the game the way it is programmed.

[RynoAid]

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I was pumped up for Madden 13, but this editing thing has me wondering if I should stick with Madden 12 another year and go to Madden 14.

don't play Madden 13 then.. cause after that, i went back and played 12 and spent the rest of the day...

[GiantBlue76]

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Here is my issue:

I see a TON of people in this forum saying "CCM is great" "Its so innovative" etc but hardly any of you have actually seen or played this mode. You are all going off of blogs and impressions by Game Changers. Even the GCs only saw a offline version of this mode in May. So what exactly are you basing this optimism on?

On the other hand, we have several people who are down on the mode. The difference is they have legitimate reasons to be down on the mode. They have confirmed that there is no editing, no multi team franchise, no NCAA import and very limited control over rosters. These things have been confirmed. But all I hear is "Give the mode a chance" "You wanted improvements and now you are complaining" "You are complaining before actually playing the mode".

The people who are down on the game are actually more justified with their complaints than the people who are positive right now. Why? Because the complainers know that key components of the game (to them) are missing. The praisers of the mode are going off of blogs and impressions (pretty much EA advertisements because of who they are coming from) to base their excitement.

I'm not gonna knock any one who is excited about this mode. I hope just as you do that the mode is going to be bug free and have intelligent AI. But dont knock me for being skeptical based on the Madden team's track record and the missing features.

This is a very fair and legitimate post. That's exactly how I feel about Madden's gameplay. Also, you are right about CCM, as none of us have actually been able to try it. I based my opinion off of EA's presentation. No offense to anyone, but I don't put any stock in gamechangers or other folks' "reviews". Everyone has an opinion. I saw Looman's blog and I was impressed. This, like everything else, depends on if it actually works.

In short, I agree with everything you just said, and I can completely relate because that is EXACTLY how I feel about gameplay.

[JerzeyReign]

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Here is my issue:

I see a TON of people in this forum saying "CCM is great" "Its so innovative" etc but hardly any of you have actually seen or played this mode. You are all going off of blogs and impressions by Game Changers. Even the GCs only saw a offline version of this mode in May. So what exactly are you basing this optimism on?

On the other hand, we have several people who are down on the mode. The difference is they have legitimate reasons to be down on the mode. They have confirmed that there is no editing, no multi team franchise, no NCAA import and very limited control over rosters. These things have been confirmed. But all I hear is "Give the mode a chance" "You wanted improvements and now you are complaining" "You are complaining before actually playing the mode".

The people who are down on the game are actually more justified with their complaints than the people who are positive right now. Why? Because the complainers know that key components of the game (to them) are missing. The praisers of the mode are going off of blogs and impressions (pretty much EA advertisements because of who they are coming from) to base their excitement.

I'm not gonna knock any one who is excited about this mode. I hope just as you do that the mode is going to be bug free and have intelligent AI. But dont knock me for being skeptical based on the Madden team's track record and the missing features.

Personally, I don't care about the edits because I don't have OCD when it comes to retired numbers and the other concerns -- I mean, I wish it didn't happen but I can live with it.

From the outside looking in, if they had to take away features to make this work, why not hold off a year to at least keep most of the editing features in?

I hate to say it but it seems like they needed a 'gimmick' to go along with the new engine. Thats what it seems to boil down to.

[Yeats]

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And ok, let's double the results of that poll, 0.06% is not going to hurt their wallets. The fact remains that unless a much larger portion of the community voices their frustration, they won't be forced into doing anything about it immediately.

This is what I mean be being realistic. The 10% or 15% or whatever of gamers who might care about editing shoes and armbands are going to shrug their shoulders, but will still go out and buy the game. This is not a big issue for most gamers.

[SA1NT401]

I'm still standing by my question....

What makes Donny moores rosters SO magical that HE can edit rosters that CAN be used in CCM and we can't?

It's the EXACT SAME THING! He will be changing ratings, equipment and numbers.... Just like we want to. It's the same thing, ZERO difference.

I just don't get it.

I'll rent ... At some point.

I will also like to state this.... I guarantee the XP thing will be an annoying number crunch of a feature and I'm betting the majority skip it after just a season. Why? How annoying is it going to be to practice each week. Every week? Sure some might like it, but the majority of EAs target ONLINE audience probably has no interest in grinding XP. So they in turn will just opt for the CPU to do it.

All in all. Those missing features and I'm mainly talking editing the basics not ratings, will lead to frustration. CPU roster management WILL be a mess just based on every madden prior and I'm betting CCM will have its fare share of issues.

We will find out soon enough.




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