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  • StrawHat Patriot
    Banned
    • Apr 2012
    • 876

    #1531
    Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    Originally posted by Franchise408
    If Infinity Engine wasn't ready for 100%, then it shouldn't have been released, and held back until it was ready. Not implemented half assed.
    And thrown in during January.

    They should of developed it in the background like CCM and instead work on blocking and running animations or/and add weight and momentum so when the IE is ready, the gameplay is almost brilliant.

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    • Franchise408
      Banned
      • Feb 2010
      • 1888

      #1532
      Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      Originally posted by Bgamer90
      A few years back, a football game that had a lot of hype due to its physics engine was released and many were impressed by its engine (me included). The game had similar quirks caused by its physics engine that Madden has now but most agreed that the tackling and running game was miles better than what was in Madden at the time and that they would love to see Madden have a physics engine.

      Fast forward to now, Madden 13 has the same quirks as that other physics football game released a few years back but yet some of the same ones that said that the game released a few years back was "amazing" (even though it had quirks caused by its physics engine) are now saying that madden 13 is "complete trash" due to it having similar quirks.

      It's not surprising to me at all but I just find it to be funny.
      I never played Backbreaker, so the hypocrisy angle you're going for fails. Also, Bqckbreaker wasn't intended to be a realistic sum, but rather intended to be an unrealistic arcade game. Kinda what Madden is in actuality, except refuses to accept that title and continues to wrongly insist that it is "sim"

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      • CatMan72
        Pro
        • Apr 2009
        • 811

        #1533
        Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        The more I play this demo the more "bumper car" tackles I see and the less I like it. I think the infinity engine is great and it's a big step in the right direction, but it needs a TON of tuning.

        I can't recall watching a real game and seeing Frank Gore get hit and go flying 5 yards backwards.

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        • Puck
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 9

          #1534
          Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          Originally posted by Bgamer90
          Nothing that has been added to sports games in the past in terms of gameplay was "100% ready". Why? Since just about everything in all sports games in terms of gameplay features have problems and on top of that, the features get improve in the future iterations.

          If you feel that things shouldn't be added to sports games until they are "100% ready", what sports games do you play? Asking since due to the majority of sports game series releasing every year, just about every new feature is a "work in progress".

          And in the same token, why are'nt the slogans and advertisements suggesting more ingenuous statements in refference to their plans rather than making claims such as "similation football, and realistic physics engine? I understand what you are saying, but that doesnt justify misleading the masses into expecting "an overhaul", or a " it feels like a whole new game", when in fact it doesnt.
          Last edited by Puck; 08-16-2012, 12:14 AM.

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          • Bgamer90
            MVP
            • Jul 2008
            • 1919

            #1535
            Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            Originally posted by Franchise408
            I never played Backbreaker, so the hypocrisy angle you're going for fails.
            There are more people than you so no it doesn't "fail".

            Also, Bqckbreaker wasn't intended to be a realistic sum, but rather intended to be an unrealistic arcade game. Kinda what Madden is in actuality, except refuses to accept that title and continues to wrongly insist that it is "sim"
            The game had arcade-like modes (like tackle alley) but the game was being directly compared to sim NFL games due to its physics engine. It was intended on making people not want to play "canned animation sim football games".
            Bgamer90 on twitter

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            • Bgamer90
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 1919

              #1536
              Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by Puck
              And in the same token, why are'nt the slogans and advertisements suggesting more ingenuous than making claims such as "similation football, and realistic physics engine? I understand what you are saying, but that doesnt justify misleading the masses into expecting "an overhaul", or a " it feels like a whole new game", when in fact it doesnt.
              It's typical advertising. Nothing really new.

              Also, many who are enjoying the Madden 13 demo feel that it feels completely fresh in comparison to previous Maddens so (obviously), people have different opinions.
              Bgamer90 on twitter

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              • Puck
                Rookie
                • Sep 2011
                • 9

                #1537
                Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Originally posted by StrawHat Patriot
                And thrown in during January.

                They should of developed it in the background like CCM and instead work on blocking and running animations or/and add weight and momentum so when the IE is ready, the gameplay is almost brilliant.

                EXCELLENT SUGGESTION!!! Putting out this IE and leaving the AI and other issues EXACTLY the way they are leads some to believe that this was an attempt to feed the zombies a pinky finger so that they stay loyal. is this their intention? Probably not, is their reason for concern? YES

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                • Puck
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 9

                  #1538
                  Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Originally posted by Bgamer90
                  It's typical advertising. Nothing really new.

                  Also, many who are enjoying the Madden 13 demo feel that it feels completely fresh in comparison to previous Maddens so (obviously), people have different opinions.

                  True, but is that really saying much?

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                  • TreFacTor
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1138

                    #1539
                    Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    Originally posted by slick589
                    Its rubber band/catch up ai. EA and 2K both do this, i think because its easier for them to program it that way instead of actually making the ai play smarter throughout the whole game.
                    One of my favorite games of all time is Virtua Fighter 5. In that game, they have an arcade mode that lets you play from real people some of the best in the world (recorded from actual arcade cabinets and pro competitions), and they recorded their play styles so you were getting a better challenge than playing the cpu which was admittedly cheap on higher difficulties (Dural the end boss has everyone's moves) and it saves the offline player from having to deal with cheap online tactics. Madden should implement something like this for each team that way each team doesn't seem like it plays the same. That's really the problem with Madden in a nutshell. It can look pretty from sun up till sun down, but the AI in all facets acts like a dumb blond. Thats the real reason Madden doesn't ever feel different to the offline player. Or am I the only player that plays with house rules in order to get any enjoyment out of the game?
                    Proud Beta tester for NFL 2K Dreamcast
                    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

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                    • chicubsfan20
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1078

                      #1540
                      Im not impressed. Felt like the same game as 12 with new animations being used and even worse looking player models. After MLB The Show, my standards for sports games kind of rose and I know Madden isn't there but they have been going in the right direction.

                      I think it was just it being a demo but it felt like a slightly polished version of Madden 12. Too choppy, too sloppy, etc. I do believe the actual game will feel a lot better and I'm definitely going to get it whether it be new or used and try it out. Just don't think the demo was good. Most demo's dont appeal to me
                      NFL: Green Bay Packers
                      NCAA: Wisconsin Badgers
                      NBA: Milwaukee Bucks
                      MLB: Chicago Cubs

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                      • TeamHawkins
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 267

                        #1541
                        Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        WOW! Just fired up the Demo fir a 2nd go round, and right off the bat I'm annoyed. First play from the Giants (CPU) and he throws one over the middle. MY DB seemingly has the WR blanketed, but what do ya know?

                        The vaunted ICE SKATING animation returns!

                        The WR slides an extra 2 or 3 yards to make the grab, rather than it be an incompletion or mislead by the QB. Or, make a great catch by the receiver, or a swat down by the DB whipping his arm in front of the receiver. DON'T START THIS ICE SKATING GARBAGE ALL OVER AGAIN!!. This company just doesn't get it right.
                        "The Mind is a terrible thing to waste"

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                        • JR2Trill
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 83

                          #1542
                          Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Its funny how i think some of these guys play the demo to look for the negative aspects rather than the good; doesn't amaze me though!

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                          • Broncos86
                            Orange and Blue!
                            • May 2009
                            • 5505

                            #1543
                            Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            I'm tired of the sliders altering the difficulty setting. It makes ZERO sense for the AI difficulty to change if I move a slider. Why does the AI suddenly have to become blithering morons just because I want to give my offensive line a bump?

                            Sliders should be 100% independent of AI intelligence.

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                            • roadman
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 26339

                              #1544
                              Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              This last part of this thread has turned into it's not, it is thread.

                              Not what a demo thread is for, folks.

                              Best advice and suggestion would be to move on, as your opinions have been shared repeatedly.

                              I would like to see more opinions on the demo, not what the game should or shouldn't be.

                              Thanks.

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                              • T1TRAPTOR
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 636

                                #1545
                                Re: Madden NFL 13 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                I'm really loving this game on all-madden. It's difficult, but I haven't encountered any unrealistic plays. With the right playcalling you can really have success. I like it alot. In other madden games, all-madden just frustrates me.

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