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  • tomenol
    Rookie
    • Sep 2010
    • 23

    #106
    Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

    The following game: I adjusted human pass block by +1 and CPU pass rush by -3 as well as changed the penalty sliders. Now the picture is opposite: I got 10 sacks. I think I will try now to increase CPU pass block by 1 and increase CPU pass rush back to your value of 88. Besides that my offense even with Kyle Orton at QB dominated the Eagles. See stats below:

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dallas Cowboys (ME)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">38</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Philadelphia Eagles (CPU)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">17</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">DAL</td><td align="center" width="20%">PHI</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">520</td><td align="center">221</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">213</td><td align="center">48</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">307</td><td align="center">173</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">12</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">18</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">108</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">603</td><td align="center">347</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">4-10</td><td align="center">4-14</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">1-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">4-4</td><td align="center">1-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">3-38</td><td align="center">4-56</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">39:59</td><td align="center">20:01</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0D254C" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Dallas Cowboys</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K.Orton</td><td align="right">25/36</td><td align="right">315</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Murray</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">148</td><td align="right">4.7</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>P.Tanner</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>F.Jones</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">25</td><td align="right">4.1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">116</td><td align="right">12.8</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Bryant</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">119</td><td align="right">14.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Witten</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">13.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Ogletree</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right">16.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Harris</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>F.Jones</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-5</td><td align="right">-5.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Ware</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>S.Lee</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Carter</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A.Spencer</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Claiborne</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>G.Sensabaugh</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Jenkins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Coleman</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Church</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>O.Scandrick</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>S.Lissemore</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>V.Butler</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Pool</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Carr</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#003B48" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Philadelphia Eagles</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Vick</td><td align="right">17/29</td><td align="right">237</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>L.McCoy</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">2.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Vick</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">2.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Lewis</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Maclin</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Maclin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">116</td><td align="right">29.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>L.McCoy</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Celek</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right">12.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Johnson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">13.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Avant</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">8.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Jackson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Ryans</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>N.Asomugha</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A.Jordan</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Rolle</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>O.Atogwe</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Coleman</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Boykin</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T.Cole</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Carey</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>F.Cox</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C.Jenkins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Rodgers-Cromartie</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Kendricks</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Graham</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>N.Allen</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

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    • quan15
      Rookie
      • Oct 2008
      • 222

      #107
      Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

      Originally posted by tomenol
      The following game: I adjusted human pass block by +1 and CPU pass rush by -3 as well as changed the penalty sliders. Now the picture is opposite: I got 10 sacks. I think I will try now to increase CPU pass block by 1 and increase CPU pass rush back to your value of 88. Besides that my offense even with Kyle Orton at QB dominated the Eagles. See stats below:

      <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dallas Cowboys (ME)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">38</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Philadelphia Eagles (CPU)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">17</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">DAL</td><td align="center" width="20%">PHI</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">520</td><td align="center">221</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">213</td><td align="center">48</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">307</td><td align="center">173</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">12</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">18</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">108</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">603</td><td align="center">347</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">4-10</td><td align="center">4-14</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">1-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">4-4</td><td align="center">1-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">3-38</td><td align="center">4-56</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">39:59</td><td align="center">20:01</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0D254C" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Dallas Cowboys</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K.Orton</td><td align="right">25/36</td><td align="right">315</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Murray</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">148</td><td align="right">4.7</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>P.Tanner</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>F.Jones</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">25</td><td align="right">4.1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">116</td><td align="right">12.8</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Bryant</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">119</td><td align="right">14.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Witten</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">13.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Ogletree</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right">16.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Harris</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>F.Jones</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-5</td><td align="right">-5.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Ware</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>S.Lee</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Carter</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A.Spencer</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Claiborne</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>G.Sensabaugh</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Jenkins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Coleman</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Church</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>O.Scandrick</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>S.Lissemore</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>V.Butler</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Pool</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Carr</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#003B48" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Philadelphia Eagles</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Vick</td><td align="right">17/29</td><td align="right">237</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>L.McCoy</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">2.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Vick</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">2.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Lewis</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Maclin</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Maclin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">116</td><td align="right">29.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>L.McCoy</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Celek</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right">12.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Johnson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">13.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Avant</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">8.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Jackson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Ryans</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>N.Asomugha</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A.Jordan</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Rolle</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>O.Atogwe</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Coleman</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Boykin</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T.Cole</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Carey</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>F.Cox</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C.Jenkins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Rodgers-Cromartie</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Kendricks</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Graham</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>N.Allen</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>
      Alright, thanks for the feedback.

      Comment

      • quan15
        Rookie
        • Oct 2008
        • 222

        #108
        Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

        Originally posted by tomenol
        The following game: I adjusted human pass block by +1 and CPU pass rush by -3 as well as changed the penalty sliders. Now the picture is opposite: I got 10 sacks. I think I will try now to increase CPU pass block by 1 and increase CPU pass rush back to your value of 88. Besides that my offense even with Kyle Orton at QB dominated the Eagles. See stats below:

        <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dallas Cowboys (ME)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">38</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Philadelphia Eagles (CPU)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">17</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">DAL</td><td align="center" width="20%">PHI</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">520</td><td align="center">221</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">213</td><td align="center">48</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">307</td><td align="center">173</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">28</td><td align="center">12</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">45</td><td align="center">18</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">108</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">603</td><td align="center">347</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">4-10</td><td align="center">4-14</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">1-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">4-4</td><td align="center">1-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">3-38</td><td align="center">4-56</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">39:59</td><td align="center">20:01</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0D254C" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Dallas Cowboys</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K.Orton</td><td align="right">25/36</td><td align="right">315</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Murray</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">148</td><td align="right">4.7</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>P.Tanner</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>F.Jones</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">25</td><td align="right">4.1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Austin</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">116</td><td align="right">12.8</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Bryant</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">119</td><td align="right">14.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Witten</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">13.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Ogletree</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right">16.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Harris</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>F.Jones</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-5</td><td align="right">-5.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Ware</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>S.Lee</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Carter</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A.Spencer</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Claiborne</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>G.Sensabaugh</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Jenkins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Coleman</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Church</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>O.Scandrick</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>S.Lissemore</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>V.Butler</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Pool</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Carr</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#003B48" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Philadelphia Eagles</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Vick</td><td align="right">17/29</td><td align="right">237</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>L.McCoy</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">2.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M.Vick</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">2.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Lewis</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J.Maclin</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Maclin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">116</td><td align="right">29.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>L.McCoy</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Celek</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right">12.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Johnson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">13.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J.Avant</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">8.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Jackson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Ryans</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>N.Asomugha</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A.Jordan</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Rolle</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>O.Atogwe</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>K.Coleman</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B.Boykin</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T.Cole</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D.Carey</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>F.Cox</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C.Jenkins</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D.Rodgers-Cromartie</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M.Kendricks</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B.Graham</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>N.Allen</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>
        Gonna up the pass D for the cpu. Thanks for the help.

        Comment

        • narber426
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 6

          #109
          Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

          Minor concern with the auto sub sliders: Playing my CCM with the Vikings, Toby Gerhart is rarely, if ever, getting carries. I even have him set as the 3DRB. Any thoughts? (Rough estimate: Adrian Peterson gets about 25-30 carries a game, Gerhart 1 to 2, Aromashodu -- jet sweeps, end arounds, etc. -- 1 to 2).

          Otherwise, Quan, these are great. Best set I've played with so far this season.

          Comment

          • LegendRyder
            Rookie
            • Jul 2010
            • 93

            #110
            Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

            Hey quan, pretty good set. I've played around five games with your Play Now set. First and foremost, I've been playing with Wiz's sliders (which are great btw, just waiting for him to update), so this was a huge transition. I must say though, once I readjusted to the Slow speed at such a low threshold I enjoyed these. I do have a few concerns though:

            - Human passing is way too easy. I just played a game as the Falcons recently versus the Saints where I think I went 29/29 with Matt Ryan for like 400 yards and like 3+ TD's.
            - This kind of connects to the previous one; the threshold IMO NEEDS to be higher. Speedy players (WR's) are wayyyy to overpowered with these. In all the games that I've played speedy guys like Steve Smith (CAR) and Roddy White have completely dominated. I'm talking at least 150 yards every time. It is way to easy for these guys to break open.
            - CPU offense (particularly the passing) needs to be better. The CPU struggles amounting much of anything. They hardly pick up first downs, and I really only see one good drive from them a game. Also, the CPU always struggles A LOT in the red zone (not sure if that's the sliders fault).

            That's everything I can think of right now. I apologize if I sound harsh, it's only because I do really like these and believe with some adjustments they can be perfect. Also, I should note that I use GameFlow on offense and defense. I consider myself a VERY sim player. I make minimum changes at the LOS, definitely not enough to cheese the CPU. Please get back to me as I'm really looking forward to playing with these more! Great work.

            Comment

            • trapchamp45
              Rookie
              • Sep 2012
              • 13

              #111
              Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

              Hey quan i tweakd from your sets do u know a low cpu and hum pass reaction make a tough passing game i have da cpu at 5 and human at 15 and 5 for human run reaction and block shedding this bought out differen animations frm da oline to da db dis madden and your baseset are now official and i usually i dnt even blog but dis game is a amazing
              Nuthin come to sleepers but dreams

              Comment

              • quan15
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 222

                #112
                Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                Originally posted by LegendRyder
                Hey quan, pretty good set. I've played around five games with your Play Now set. First and foremost, I've been playing with Wiz's sliders (which are great btw, just waiting for him to update), so this was a huge transition. I must say though, once I readjusted to the Slow speed at such a low threshold I enjoyed these. I do have a few concerns though:

                - Human passing is way too easy. I just played a game as the Falcons recently versus the Saints where I think I went 29/29 with Matt Ryan for like 400 yards and like 3+ TD's.
                - This kind of connects to the previous one; the threshold IMO NEEDS to be higher. Speedy players (WR's) are wayyyy to overpowered with these. In all the games that I've played speedy guys like Steve Smith (CAR) and Roddy White have completely dominated. I'm talking at least 150 yards every time. It is way to easy for these guys to break open.
                - CPU offense (particularly the passing) needs to be better. The CPU struggles amounting much of anything. They hardly pick up first downs, and I really only see one good drive from them a game. Also, the CPU always struggles A LOT in the red zone (not sure if that's the sliders fault).

                That's everything I can think of right now. I apologize if I sound harsh, it's only because I do really like these and believe with some adjustments they can be perfect. Also, I should note that I use GameFlow on offense and defense. I consider myself a VERY sim player. I make minimum changes at the LOS, definitely not enough to cheese the CPU. Please get back to me as I'm really looking forward to playing with these more! Great work.
                Hey thanks a lot for the feedback. the passing D in this game seems to be off because at times there seems to be a logic to it relative to the slider adjustments but then the next it's just too easy. Got to work on this issue here. Wish EA had a patch coming through in the near future that would fix coverages.

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                • quan15
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 222

                  #113
                  Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                  Originally posted by trapchamp45
                  Hey quan i tweakd from your sets do u know a low cpu and hum pass reaction make a tough passing game i have da cpu at 5 and human at 15 and 5 for human run reaction and block shedding this bought out differen animations frm da oline to da db dis madden and your baseset are now official and i usually i dnt even blog but dis game is a amazing
                  Thanks a lot for your feedback man. I'll try your theory in part and see what you're talking about.

                  Comment

                  • MEEKS973
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 224

                    #114
                    Really interested in the auto sub sliders. Anybody know if this is a bit realistic for auto subs?

                    Comment

                    • Sturzinator
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 917

                      #115
                      Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                      I too, am interested in comments about these auto-subs. Looking at them on paper, they don't seem to make much sense. That being said, it probably works great with Madden 13, seeing as everything is FUBAR in this game.

                      Specifically, I was wondering about the RB rotation and if OL are staying on the field on longer drives (12 plus plays or so).

                      That auto-sub also looks high for the QB - don't want him coming out at all.

                      Any feedback would be appreciated.

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                      • quan15
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 222

                        #116
                        Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                        Originally posted by Sturzinator
                        I too, am interested in comments about these auto-subs. Looking at them on paper, they don't seem to make much sense. That being said, it probably works great with Madden 13, seeing as everything is FUBAR in this game.

                        Specifically, I was wondering about the RB rotation and if OL are staying on the field on longer drives (12 plus plays or so).

                        That auto-sub also looks high for the QB - don't want him coming out at all.

                        Any feedback would be appreciated.
                        Regarding the auto-subs they work beautifully. I hope I am not confusing anyone with the auto-sub sliders for "ccm". I only put them backwards because the last time I checked them in "ccm" you had to set them to the opposite of what you have in "play now" mode. The quarterback auto-sub slider is set so that he comes out when his fatigue is at 50 and subs back in when at 90. Therefore he NEVER comes out the game (outside of wildcat plays of course). Hope you guys understand my logic here.

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                        • Sturzinator
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 917

                          #117
                          Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                          Originally posted by quan15
                          Regarding the auto-subs they work beautifully. I hope I am not confusing anyone with the auto-sub sliders for "ccm". I only put them backwards because the last time I checked them in "ccm" you had to set them to the opposite of what you have in "play now" mode. The quarterback auto-sub slider is set so that he comes out when his fatigue is at 50 and subs back in when at 90. Therefore he NEVER comes out the game (outside of wildcat plays of course). Hope you guys understand my logic here.
                          Thanks for the response. I have plugged yours in and they do work very well. Perhaps you could clarify something for me. The way I see it, with the QB AT 90 in and 50 out, it would play out like this:

                          Qb starts fresh at 100, stays on the field for way too long until he drains down to 50, then goes to the sideline ( for a long time !) until he recovers all the way back to 90, then goes back in. This is a much larger recovery time spread than any of the other positions, assuming he ever went below the 50 trigger. This would keep him off the field for longer than anyone to recover.

                          Is this not how you see the application of the fatigue in the game? Perhaps I have it twisted somehow and you can enlighten me.

                          I appreciate your input, obviously you had this auto sub mystery nailed before anyone else this year.

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                          • CheezSteez
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 316

                            #118
                            Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                            Will these work good in user vs user play now games

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                            • quan15
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 222

                              #119
                              Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                              Originally posted by Sturzinator
                              Thanks for the response. I have plugged yours in and they do work very well. Perhaps you could clarify something for me. The way I see it, with the QB AT 90 in and 50 out, it would play out like this:

                              Qb starts fresh at 100, stays on the field for way too long until he drains down to 50, then goes to the sideline ( for a long time !) until he recovers all the way back to 90, then goes back in. This is a much larger recovery time spread than any of the other positions, assuming he ever went below the 50 trigger. This would keep him off the field for longer than anyone to recover.

                              Is this not how you see the application of the fatigue in the game? Perhaps I have it twisted somehow and you can enlighten me.

                              I appreciate your input, obviously you had this auto sub mystery nailed before anyone else this year.
                              Yes I have taken that perspective into play and I did that with the intention of hindering (if used) the user from getting the urge to go all "Madden 04" with players like Vick running around like crazy and using them unrealistically. In real life they will get tired and either will hand off the ball or actually pass it because of their fatigue or they will not be able to perform up to par and would have to take a few snaps off. Most quarterbacks in this game do not have a very low stamina rating so they would only be out for like a series at best but it keeps it realistic if that is indeed what the user wants. If not they could change it. Thanks for asking.

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                              • quan15
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 222

                                #120
                                Re: Just read and you'll understand...Real NFL...regarding stats..and gameplay..

                                Originally posted by CheezSteez
                                Will these work good in user vs user play now games
                                Yes they do work fine, but I am making some very large changes to my sliders and settings in general as I discovered some good info from other guys on here that when tested turned out to change in some ways the game experience with my new (to be) sliders but really keep the same overall philosophy. Thanks for asking.

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