The NFL and 2K Are Back Together, 'Non-Simulation' Games Will Release Beginning in 2021

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Rondo is GOD
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 2524

    #91
    Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

    This feels so much like an EA move...

    "NFL 2K IS BACK!!!!...... but not really"
    Originally posted by Balldude777
    In this case the lasagna restaurant started selling candy to kids and that became the best revenue stream so they’ve let the lasagna get worse and focused on becoming a candy store. The problem is this restaurant bought the rights to make lasagna so if we want lasagna we can only go to this place.

    Comment

    • PhillyPhanatic14
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 4824

      #92
      Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

      Not sure if this counts as a source... but it is something i guess. Would be interesting if they're using the loophole of "non-sim" to get their foot in the door in 2021 and then going full throttle in 2022.
      Attached Files

      Comment

      • Junior Moe
        MVP
        • Jul 2009
        • 3869

        #93
        Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

        I'm actually thinking more like 2Ks MyPlayer where people can create avatars and play with a team of humans on the NFL teams against other users avatars. That way the NFLPA license isnt necessary. As far as gaming 2K has a lock on the MyPlayer market; that's what has NBA2K at 10 million sales. Apply that same template to the NFL and who knows what they can do.
        Originally posted by slickdtc
        I don’t get this. The NFL won’t let the game become an overly violent NFL Blitz style game, so that’s out. NFL Street style games stopped being made because they didn’t sell.

        My best guess is, based off the “casual, social” comment, is this is geared towards online players... going around playing 7 on 7 in like an open world. Not simulation but not completely over the top, think like sandlot football. Kinda a medium of casual, relatively realistic, fun, simple.

        I’m sure there’s an audience for that, people love to play Madden in so many different ways. But I just don’t see it being that popular and will be just a memory in 10 years.

        Also, just having the NFL rights is... weird. In a game where you play as... players... they’re more important. So that makes me think this will be like a Create a Player full game experience.
        Sent from my SM-G950U using Operation Sports mobile app

        Comment

        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #94
          Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

          Damn this is big news...
          #RespectTheCulture

          Comment

          • jb12780
            Hall of Fame
            • Oct 2008
            • 10665

            #95
            Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Damn this is big news...


            The million dollar question is do EA and the players union have an exclusive agreement?


            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
            GT:jb12780
            PSN:jb12780

            Comment

            • reverend_heat
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 1775

              #96
              Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

              Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
              Not sure if this counts as a source... but it is something i guess. Would be interesting if they're using the loophole of "non-sim" to get their foot in the door in 2021 and then going full throttle in 2022.
              This is EXACTLY what I’m hoping for.

              Comment

              • lambo3500
                Rookie
                • Jul 2016
                • 71

                #97
                Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                Dumb question, but does anyone think the NFLPA has anything to do with this as well? I know they are currently in talks for the new CBA deal, wonder if anything from that comes into play? I know it usually comes down to player rights, money, owner rights, and head office rights.

                Comment

                • TheGentlemanGhost
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1321

                  #98
                  Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                  So this should be great for NFL fans no matter what. If EAs exclusive deal for sim football is on the line, they know they need to give sim players what they want now. If they don’t focus on franchise, what reason is there to get M21 for people like me? And with the NFL giving 2K any license to make a football game, even though it’s arcade, EA should know they have to focus on the sim elements for now. Hopefully 2K can something out of this and EA realizes they need to give the sim community some love.

                  Comment

                  • NINJAK2
                    *S *dd*ct
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 6185

                    #99
                    Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                    This announcement is both exciting and disappointing at the same time. Only allowing 2k to make some arcade bs will do nothing towards forcing ea to step up their game. EA has cornered the Sim market for 15 years and has done literally nothing to separate itself from NFL 2k5 imo. Missed opportunity NFL...
                    EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

                    Comment

                    • 50West
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2019
                      • 80

                      #100
                      Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                      Originally posted by lambo3500
                      Dumb question, but does anyone think the NFLPA has anything to do with this as well? I know they are currently in talks for the new CBA deal, wonder if anything from that comes into play? I know it usually comes down to player rights, money, owner rights, and head office rights.
                      The NFL and NFLPA are separate contracts/agreements with regard to video game licensing.

                      Comment

                      • lambo3500
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 71

                        #101
                        Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                        Originally posted by NINJAK2
                        This announcement is both exciting and disappointing at the same time. Only allowing 2k to make some arcade bs will do nothing towards forcing ea to step up their game. EA has cornered the Sim market for 15 years and has done literally nothing to separate itself from NFL 2k5 imo. Missed opportunity NFL...
                        I don't want to feed to a false sense of hope, but in 15 years this is the closest 2k has gotten to the NFL. If EA's exclusive license to sim football ends in 2021, this gives 2k a window to develop a relationship with the NFL to potentially make football games for sim football. Hopefully both companies will get the license to push competition.

                        And let's be real, if 2k was to get exclusive access to sim NFL games, it would take at least 2-3 years to push a decent product out as they would have to build from the ground up as they would need to build for the upcoming gen, development (engine design, cfm, etc...), and marketing. I doubt the NFL would want to wait that long a football game if they got access to the license today (and exclusively them).

                        Comment

                        • mestevo
                          Gooney Goo Goo
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19556

                          #102
                          Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                          The Polygon headline sets expectations best: '2k Sports signs NFL deal for video games that won't compete with Madden'

                          Comment

                          • budsmoker247
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 72

                            #103
                            Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                            2k should just holler at cwsapp and the simworld crew to make a fictional simulation game. They really don't need NFL license to make a game and still will **** on Madden.

                            Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Operation Sports mobile app

                            Comment

                            • 4thQtrStre5S
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 3051

                              #104
                              Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                              This makes sense considering the concern by the NFL with youth and parents shying away from the violence of football. Create a fun, interactive game for kids. So stadiums and uniforms and the user creates themselves as the key player for online head to head battles and mini games. The animations will show proper tackling and game play mechanics; probably no more hit sticking, and this could effect Madden. In the meantime, the NFL will continue to make the game safer. Football needs a continuous supply of youth players.


                              Competition can be great, it is not a guarantee. Seeing as how a video game's quality is not about something tangible, the competition, if arcade, could result in competitive changes for Madden, but not in the direction many on this forum would agree on for a direction.


                              I hope that the animations, player movements and interactions from zones to offensive and defensive line play is crisp and believable in this 2K version, and this will be the focus of Madden in their competitive drive to remain the top game.


                              "Simulation" is just a word with many people having a variation of what it means. The term simulation could be qualified in just having real player likeness in Madden performing great animations as the player is best known for in the real sport.



                              Simulation could mean numbers generated in a ratings system. This could result in the 2K version not using any ratings and just having basic blocking, speed, strength, etc. with all performance on the field being user generated with each computer generated player equal and open to the user input to determine ultimate ability and performance. So if you want a block shed, for example, a user would have to control that defensive player and out button push the opponent, who can counter button push, or beat the AI threshold for shedding, which would be uniform across all players of similar type (OL/DL).



                              JUst my 2 cents based on this brief information release
                              Last edited by 4thQtrStre5S; 03-10-2020, 11:17 AM.

                              Comment

                              • ijumpedthegun
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 360

                                #105
                                Re: NFL 2K Coming Back in 2021!!

                                Lots to unpack here and nothing really substantial to guess with.

                                Non-simulation could mean anything from some stupid arcade game (which, if we're being honest, is what Madden has become so I don't really get the draw) or maybe something where the actual football takes place off-screen.

                                2k's statement about "casual" fans has me really worried that I won't be remotely interested in what they're offering, but "games" in the plural might mean they have more than one property on the horizon. Hopefully it pushes EA to shore up some of the front office, serious aspects of their game that has been so lacking recently, but I doubt it.

                                Also might be a chance for 2k to get some up-front cash flow as they investing in building a new football engine because they might later be interested in NCAA games.

                                Comment

                                Working...