The NFL and 2K Are Back Together, 'Non-Simulation' Games Will Release Beginning in 2021

[Balldude777]

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As far as simulation football games go, I wonder if 2k has plans on reaching out to the XFL next? I've actually enjoyed watching it so far and that could be a great way to at least get a team together if the NFL doesn't renew with Madden in the future (Although I highly doubt it).

[mestevo]

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As far as simulation football games go, I wonder if 2k has plans on reaching out to the XFL next? I've actually enjoyed watching it so far and that could be a great way to at least get a team together if the NFL doesn't renew with Madden in the future (Although I highly doubt it).

XFL probably would have been an a great target for a 'non-simulation' football title, so I feel like today's news probably puts a dents in those chances.

[baconbits11]

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Ironic how 2K should be making the simulation game, and EA Sports should be making the non-simulation game!

I think 2K will make such a huge impression on the NFL that the exclusive agreement will end at some point and this is the first step toward that. At least there is hope now!

[illwill10]

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2K most likely also acquired the NFLPA license in this deal. Most of the time when a license is acquired for a sports league, the players association licensees usually come as a package deal. So I would be surprised if they don't have the NFLPA license.

Unrelated, but that press release from EA today just oozed of fear and anger.

I agree. It really came off as defensive. It's like saying "We're still the only license 'simulation' football option on the market. 2k could have done this a long time ago if they really wanted too." All while boasting Superstar KO and Esports. I could see this statement if this happened a couple years ago where they still had several years left with deal. There saying this with the deal ending at the end of 2021 football season. I do feel there is legit chance the license would go non exclusive

[daflyboys]

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....and EA Sports should be making the non-simulation game!

I thought that was already goin' on.

[baconbits11]

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I thought that was already goin' on.

You're right, I almost put that in my post....

Another thing we can look forward to is that now 2K has a reason to work on an updated football engine. They didn't have any reason to create a football engine since 2K8, so that added to the doubt they could still do football. I'm truly excited like the rest of you!

[Hooe]

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Unrelated, but that press release from EA today just oozed of fear and anger.

Madden NFL 20 was the third-best selling video game in the United States in 2019, per NPD. The Madden brand is still both a commercial juggernaut and cultural touchstone.

I honestly don't think EA much cares what 2K announces right now.

[Junior Moe]

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As cool as this news is I don't see any of this affecting Madden now or later. We know this isn't going to be direct competitor to Madden like NFL2K5 was. The NFL and EA have a profitable and long standing relationship. We can gripe about Madden, lord knows I have, but the game is in a good place heading into next gen and it just posted the best sales ever at 8 million units. I think best case scenario is that Madden continues to be Madden and NFL2K essentially becomes the Myplayer equivalent to NBA 2K. Ronnie 2K is on it already. lol.

https://twitter.com/Ronnie2K/status/1237348436359303169

[stevostl]

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I would be more interested in 2K doing XFL game than NFL

I haven't bought Madden since the PS2 days when It was actually one of the top sports game you could buy with Faulk on the cover... now days Madden isn't even in the top 4 as for sports game every year. FIFA, PES, NBA2K, and MLB the show consistently beat it out every year for the last decade imo.. madden is on the same level as NHL and I would even say NHL is better than Madden as well

If 2K made an XFL game.. I would buy it no matter what

if 2K was smart.. they would make a Sim XFL football game and buy that license now

[Kanobi]

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if 2K was smart.. they would make a Sim XFL football game and buy that license now

I wonder if theres language in the NFL deal that prevents them licensing with another professional football league? If not then I see no reason why an XFL 2k partnership would be entirely off the table.

[UFCMPunk]

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There's a lot of questions in regards to this new deal, specifically what is considered simulation and 'Non-Simulation' from the perspective of what type of game can be released. Would a Football version of MyGM & MyLeague with real teams and custom rosters with amazing depth be considered "non-simulation"?

This seems more like a career mode type of situation that others have said where your the QB, your friend is the WR, etc. I'm so confused by the wording lol, maybe it's just legal mumbo jumbo 2K has to use in order to not fringe on the EA deal. Now we just have to wait & see what information comes out in the future.

It does make me wonder if EA will go a bit harder with Madden 21. 'Non-Simulation' opens the door for 2K to make a simulation game in 2022 with the license at EA ending in 2021. With the CHANCE of competition in the simulation front, would EA put more effort into Madden than they normally would? Or stay the course?

[TheGentlemanGhost]

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I would be more interested in 2K doing XFL game than NFL

I haven't bought Madden since the PS2 days when It was actually one of the top sports game you could buy with Faulk on the cover... now days Madden isn't even in the top 4 as for sports game every year. FIFA, PES, NBA2K, and MLB the show consistently beat it out every year for the last decade imo.. madden is on the same level as NHL and I would even say NHL is better than Madden as well

If 2K made an XFL game.. I would buy it no matter what

if 2K was smart.. they would make a Sim XFL football game and buy that license now

Honestly, if 2K were smart, they would have just made a football game that lets you mix and match ‘Collegiate’, ‘Canadian’ and ‘American Football’ rules and settings with true full customization. I think they’ve really been dropping the ball on just how desperate people are for another AAA sim football experience.

But hopefully they can actually take advantage of this situation unlike they did with APF. I plan to support it as long as it’s not heavily based on online pay to play, but I do hope they bring something unexpected.

[Vazione]

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Madden NFL 20 was the third-best selling video game in the United States in 2019, per NPD. The Madden brand is still both a commercial juggernaut and cultural touchstone.

I honestly don't think EA much cares what 2K announces right now.

Oh I promise you that EA is petrified right now given NBA 2K’s success. You remember NBA Live right? It was Madden back in the day.

[mestevo]

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I wonder if theres language in the NFL deal that prevents them licensing with another professional football league? If not then I see no reason why an XFL 2k partnership would be entirely off the table.

For the XFL it's the same reason why there's no UFL or AAF game. just because there's a big initial bankroll doesn't mean the league will remain viable long term. With only 800,000 (and declining) people watching games, how can you expect to sell millions of copies.

Viability aside, I would expect there's complications with rosters, as players move in and out of NFLPA over time.

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[PhillyPhanatic14]

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Not sure if this was mentioned, as I skimmed the thread quickly. Does anyone else have concerns that if 2K is very successful with their non-sim game, it could actually make Madden even worse for franchise players?

Madden has the rights to "simulation" and that seemingly means my favorite mode, franchise. Could we see them ignoring franchise even more (if possible) if the suits get nervous over the 2K sales?

Hopefully 2K can eventually get the full license and then the full demise of EA Tiburon can be complete.

1. I don't think we want Tiburon to disappear. The ultimate scenario is two excellent football games being released that push each other to give us better and better games each year.
2. I think it can go either way about the sim thing... It could push EA to go more arcade-focused, but it could also incentivise them to invest in the simulation part of their game and make it awesome so that they have something 2K can't compete with.

Ultimately though, I don't see EA caring. Fifa has PES "competition" (if you can even call it that) and they make tons and tons of money every year with FIFA and each game sucks more than the one before it. Even with competition, they see no need to innovate or create a better game. I don't see Madden being different. It will always make tons of money because of the name brand and they will always find a way to make fans of franchise and sim football angry and disappointed.