This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bone!

[JayhawkerStL]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

They messed up so bad with that game. They did the exact opposite of what they were supposed to do. They made it so you could only have the limited amount of star players they allowed you to have and only let you play for one season in franchise mode. That game should have been heavily customizable with all the options open for the user. If you feel like having a full gold star team go wild. If you want to run a franchise for 100 years go wild. It's like they wanted it to have the least amount of replay value possible smh.

I played 2K8 longer than I play most sports games. What they made was a great base to build on. And if 2K23 is nothing more than that, but with current NFL stars, I’ll be happy as heck.

[ASZEMPLE]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

I played 2K8 longer than I play most sports games. What they made was a great base to build on. And if 2K23 is nothing more than that, but with current NFL stars, I’ll be happy as heck.

I’m in the same boat, I’ve probably spent more time playing APF than any other game of all time, considering how bare bones it was off the field that’s a testament how well the game played on the field, coupling that with the online play and leagues when the servers were active, APF was my go to football game for 5 straight years.

I have zero expectations on what 2K has planned, will be a little more intrigued if Visual Concepts is developing it, and ecstatic if it happens to be an APF 2K8 with active NFL players instead of Legends.


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[canes21]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

My buddy and I used to spend some Sundays watching football and just playing APF head to head online against each other the entire day.

It was great. We tried so many different team compositions, it never got old. My personal favorite matchups were when we would have one team with all 11 legends on defense versus a team with all 11 legends on offense. Those matchups always came down to the last possession.

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[ASZEMPLE]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

My buddy and I used to spend some Sundays watching football and just playing APF head to head online against each other the entire day.

It was great. We tried so many different team compositions, it never got old. My personal favorite matchups were when we would have one team with all 11 legends on defense versus a team with all 11 legends on offense. Those matchups always came down to the last possession.

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I was in online league on PS3 that replicated the NFL, and we went through about 50 seasons over the course of 4-5 years with people changing teams each season and such, every 5th season we would do a fantasy draft, it was a lot of fun.


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[illwill10]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

I played 2K8 longer than I play most sports games. What they made was a great base to build on. And if 2K23 is nothing more than that, but with current NFL stars, I’ll be happy as heck.

I’m in the same boat, I’ve probably spent more time playing APF than any other game of all time, considering how bare bones it was off the field that’s a testament how well the game played on the field, coupling that with the online play and leagues when the servers were active, APF was my go to football game for 5 straight years.

I have zero expectations on what 2K has planned, will be a little more intrigued if Visual Concepts is developing it, and ecstatic if it happens to be an APF 2K8 with active NFL players instead of Legends.


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Definitely agree

Haven't played in a couple years. But APF was a game that I could start up a season every once in a while. From a gameplay perspective, it satisfies that need. It's just the bareboned enough to not retain me. But, what I really liked about APF, is that you don't need a Speed Burner to be dominant. I liked being a Pocket Passer. If you have a QB with Rocket Arm, Laser Accuracy, and Quick Release, you can carve up any defense. You don't need a WR or DB with Speed Burner if they have key abilities.

I have no expectations at all about whatever 2k is releasing. Until we know the title and/or the development team, it is a waste of time speculating. We know NFL wants it out prior to the NFL season, so we're in the reveal window. It's seems unlikely at the draft. But I can't see it getting pass June without hearing something if it is getting released assuming it is around July-August. I just see them wanting to avoid the Madden release window by at least 2-3 weeks to get their own spotlight

[JayhawkerStL]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

I was in online league on PS3 that replicated the NFL, and we went through about 50 seasons over the course of 4-5 years with people changing teams each season and such, every 5th season we would do a fantasy draft, it was a lot of fun.


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The group I played with would hold offline drafts each season, which got more fun as we got to know the players, and who the other guys wanted in the draft. Then folks started coming up with different draft strategies, and it became as much fun as playing the games.

[speedy9386]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

I played 2K8 longer than I play most sports games. What they made was a great base to build on. And if 2K23 is nothing more than that, but with current NFL stars, I’ll be happy as heck.

Yea but that was because the gameplay was so good. In terms of the game modes they made it so it had little to no replay value. In a game not backed by NFL rosters they should have let users run wild. Who's idea was it make the franchise a one and done?

[convince]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

Pretty sure it's going to be a mobile only game.

[tril]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

They messed up so bad with that game. They did the exact opposite of what they were supposed to do. They made it so you could only have the limited amount of star players they allowed you to have and only let you play for one season in franchise mode. That game should have been heavily customizable with all the options open for the user. If you feel like having a full gold star team go wild. If you want to run a franchise for 100 years go wild. It's like they wanted it to have the least amount of replay value possible smh.

not having a franchise mode is the only issue I had with this game.

the starred system is probably the best system ever created for roster creation/management. It's like a salary cap that creates parity.
This tiered system still has so much potential in a franchise mode. Imagine including a cap-based tiered system along with dollar amounts.

Id be happy if they made another APF with a franchise mode.

[illwill10]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

not having a franchise mode is the only issue I had with this game.

the starred system is probably the best system ever created for roster creation/management. It's like a salary cap that creates parity.
This tiered system still has so much potential in a franchise mode. Imagine including a cap-based tiered system along with dollar amounts.

Id be happy if they made another APF with a franchise mode.

I did like the star system. It made roster construction important and making sure you have an identity. You had to play to your strengths. It made finding gems at Bronze vital. It usually seemed like I had 1-2 no-star generic players who made plays. For me it was always a Slot CB.

Besides obvious lack of depth, the issue with APF was the Legend approach. In retrospect, it made sense that if they couldn't have current NFL players, to go the NFL Legend route. But that's overestimating the legend appeal of casual fans. I'm sure the casual fan didn't know most of the Bronze or even Silver players. I'm not sure they could have had a Franchise mode with NFL Legends. Yeah, there are ways to have a contract system based on the star system. But assuming the Legends in APF were at their prime age, they would need to age out and cycle in new Legends. So that made the Legend approach limited. Then around that time EA Sports were trying to acquire rights of Legends so 2k couldn't use them.

Me personally, I would take a fully-generic heavy customizable APF. I can play with fully generic rosters. It doesn't have the same limitations as having Legends. I feel it would do better in this era compared to 2007. 2k Sports is at a higher popularity level now compared to then.

[simbayless]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

Me personally, I would take a fully-generic heavy customizable APF. I can play with fully generic rosters. It doesn't have the same limitations as having Legends. I feel it would do better in this era compared to 2007. 2k Sports is at a higher popularity level now compared to then.

This^^^^^^^

[JackSL97]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

This^^^^^^^

If 2k was to go that route they should take a page out of their WWE game’s book, the amount of customization available in that game is insane

[JayhawkerStL]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

You guys do realize that once 2K signed a contract with the NFL to use their licensing, a contract that includes wording that EA is the sole producer of NFL simulation games it ended any chance of there being a customizable mode that would let you even sniff at replicating an NFL season, right?


There is zero chance there is any sort of franchise mode, customizable or not, that will allow you to recreate the NFL. Period.

[jfsolo]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

You guys do realize that once 2K signed a contract with the NFL to use their licensing, a contract that includes wording that EA is the sole producer of NFL simulation games it ended any chance of there being a customizable mode that would let you even sniff at replicating an NFL season, right?


There is zero chance there is any sort of franchise mode, customizable or not, that will allow you to recreate the NFL. Period.

Some people here have this idea that they can make the NFL arcade game, but also give the middle finger to EA and the NFL by making a customizable simulation game with a deep franchise mode with the players from the NFLPA license as well. Lawyers would eat well off a a move like that.

[kehlis]

Re: This NFL 2K forum has been opened for 2 years and 2K has not even thrown us a bon

You guys do realize that once 2K signed a contract with the NFL to use their licensing, a contract that includes wording that EA is the sole producer of NFL simulation games it ended any chance of there being a customizable mode that would let you even sniff at replicating an NFL season, right?


There is zero chance there is any sort of franchise mode, customizable or not, that will allow you to recreate the NFL. Period.

I've tried to explain that ad nauseum but it gets lost.

And when the game comes out to be something that they aren't hoping for they will blame shortcomings on 2K's part, not that they couldn't make a game they (and we) would like them to make because unless the legal verbiage is ever released (it won't be) no one can ever be proven wrong.