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  • NovaStar
    Banned
    • Aug 2002
    • 3561

    #46
    Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

    Originally posted by dubplate
    A bunch of people still crying for it. I feel bad for some of these people's future grandchildren. "When I was your age we had this game called NFL 2K5. It had just as many flaws as that Madden game but we overlooked them. The funny thing is we would never alow the people that enjoyed Madden to do the same."
    Or those people with permanent smiles on their faces praising the mediocrity that is madden telling their grandchildren "stop crying, gang tackling and presentation will be in the game next year, after all it is a new engine, dont' worry madden 2066 will be better".

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    • MaddenMan
      Tebow is Chuck Norris
      • Jul 2002
      • 5632

      #47
      Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

      NFL2K had online leagues and a cool halftime show and funny commentators. But honestly that doesn't make a break the game to me, they were just gravy items imo.

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      • fishepa
        I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
        • Feb 2003
        • 18989

        #48
        Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

        PRESENTATION. The pre-game and halftime/postgame highlights and commentary were done so well in 2k5.

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        • dubplate
          MVP
          • Dec 2002
          • 3784

          #49
          Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

          Originally posted by BezO
          Ha! Homey asked what 2K5 had that Madden doesn't, and these are your responses? Why so defensive? Why answer "What's missing/wrong with Madden" with "This is what was wrong with 2K"?
          It's called a joke. I owned 2K5 when I had an XBox.

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          • dubplate
            MVP
            • Dec 2002
            • 3784

            #50
            Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

            To answer the question. Presentation and gang tackling. 2K5 had horrible running animations and the DB play was laughable at best. Not to mention the floaty ball mechanics on passes.

            Before everyone starts, no, I'm not an EA fanboy. I wish that 2K were still making football games. The better of the two would get my money. But to dwell on a game that wasn't that great to begin with is just insane.

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            • icicle22
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 2395

              #51
              Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

              Custom Stadium Music. The fact that I can play my Sunday Night games and have the new NBC theme music taking me in and out of the quarters and at the end of the half keep this game fresh. I also have CBS, FOX and MNF themes depending on when/where I am playing.

              What makes this particularly interesting is that these points in the game (end of quarters and half) are key places where the tempo of the game changes. You really feel like it is halftime and can regroup and change your strategy. I know you can do that on Madden but the intro and outros really mark the event.....in Madden it sometimes goes by and you hardly notice it. Halftime is....well.....non existent.

              If Madden would just implement some of this stuff it would really help..why don't they take advantage of the hard drive and ESPN license?

              Who knows?

              oh...and one other thing. Penalites that really occur. Watch the replay and you'll see the facemask...the hold....the pass interference.

              In madden 360 I got called for clipping by my fullback on a counter play. I watched the replay and he was engaged with a defender from the front the entire time. I was disappointed to sat the least. Random penalties suck!

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              • Andrew0681
                Rookie
                • Aug 2003
                • 90

                #52
                Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                Until Madden gets a NFL evade tool like 2k5 it will always be second rate. Its IMPOSSIBLE to get out of a sack in madden.. impossible.

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                • MaddenMan
                  Tebow is Chuck Norris
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5632

                  #53
                  Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                  Originally posted by icicle22
                  Custom Stadium Music. The fact that I can play my Sunday Night games and have the new NBC theme music taking me in and out of the quarters and at the end of the half keep this game fresh. I also have CBS, FOX and MNF themes depending on when/where I am playing.
                  How is that an issue? With the 360 you can play any type of music to override the game music by either streaming from your pc or an ipod. Just download that music on your pc and play it when you play those situations.

                  Anyways everyone seems to think that next year's version will be Madden/ESPN. But as far as I know Madden now does Sunday night football with Michaels and that is on NBC which isn't an ESPN station (unlike ABC) and it doesn't seem logical that he would have ESPN in his game when in fact he is a NBC broadcaster now. Everyone keeps forgetting that Madden actually does have a say in a game marketed under his name.
                  Last edited by MaddenMan; 08-24-2006, 12:58 PM.

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                  • dubplate
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 3784

                    #54
                    Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                    Originally posted by icicle22

                    oh...and one other thing. Penalites that really occur. Watch the replay and you'll see the facemask...the hold....the pass interference.

                    In madden 360 I got called for clipping by my fullback on a counter play. I watched the replay and he was engaged with a defender from the front the entire time. I was disappointed to sat the least. Random penalties suck!
                    Good point.

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                    • icicle22
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2395

                      #55
                      Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                      Originally posted by Andrew0681
                      Until Madden gets a NFL evade tool like 2k5 it will always be second rate. Its IMPOSSIBLE to get out of a sack in madden.. impossible.

                      True. I also feel the QB fumbles too much on sacks.

                      In the same area are QBs too slow?

                      I know that as the Browns in real life, Charlie Frye can evade oncoming tacklers or at least outrun them out of the pocket. In Madden, 300lb linemen run him down everytime they break through the protection. Even running outside of the pocket they catch up...I could see this with pure pocket QBs but Frye has been known to make a play or 2 while scrambling on a busted play.

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                      • Chitown1211
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 762

                        #56
                        Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                        Originally posted by MaddenMan
                        How is that an issue? With the 360 you can play any type of music to override the game music by either streaming from your pc or an ipod. Just download that music on your pc and play it when you play those situations.

                        Anyways everyone seems to think that next year's version will be Madden/ESPN. But as far as I know Madden now does Sunday night football with Michaels and that is on NBC which isn't an ESPN station (unlike ABC) and it doesn't seem logical that he would have ESPN in his game when in fact he is a NBC broadcaster now. Everyone keeps forgetting that Madden actually does have a say in a game marketed under his name.
                        No offense man, but you need to pick up a copy of NFL2K5 for the xbox and see what your missing.

                        You obviously have no what idea what hes talking about by custom stadium music. Im sure you wont , but so Ill break it down real quick for you.

                        In NFL2K5 you could customize the music for every situation. After TD passes, After sacks, after fumbles, end of quarters and halfs ect...ect..... For EVERY game situation.

                        Say you score a TD. You can make ANY song you want play out of the PA system in the stadium. And not just play a whole song. There was a music editor that allowed you to play ANY part of a particular song for any length of time you desired.

                        example. When I score on a long TD pass I made it so that the chorus to Outkasts "bombs over baghdad" would play ?
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                        • Kalon
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 536

                          #57
                          Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                          QB Evade; and that **** they had in franchise where you could put your whole team in drills and practice for the game. Broke down stats and tendencies like hell.

                          i HATED that there were too many sacks though. WAY too many. Playaction was way better than Madden's though. Charging up your moves was good too. I think they used the RS better than Madden does. Madden should have the ESPN presentation tho. NCAA 07 has a LITTLE bit though.

                          The one thing I love about madden is that damn vision cone. I like how in 06 Manning had the whole field light up, but now in 07 he can only see about 60% of the field. Makes it more realistic. So that's one aspect that I appreciate about them. ALL MADDEN seems to be better this year. I havent touched the sliders and the CPU runs realisticly. As for NCAA 07 I gotta fix CPU passing and then I'm bringin the Vols to a bowl game.
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                          • MaddenMan
                            Tebow is Chuck Norris
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5632

                            #58
                            Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                            Originally posted by Chitown1211
                            No offense man, but you need to pick up a copy of NFL2K5 for the xbox and see what your missing.

                            You obviously have no what idea what hes talking about by custom stadium music. Im sure you wont , but so Ill break it down real quick for you.

                            In NFL2K5 you could customize the music for every situation. After TD passes, After sacks, after fumbles, end of quarters and halfs ect...ect..... For EVERY game situation.

                            Say you score a TD. You can make ANY song you want play out of the PA system in the stadium. And not just play a whole song. There was a music editor that allowed you to play ANY part of a particular song for any length of time you desired.

                            example. When I score on a long TD pass I made it so that the chorus to Outkasts "bombs over baghdad" would play ?
                            No offense taken - I own NFL2K5 for the Xbox.

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                            • icicle22
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2395

                              #59
                              Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                              Originally posted by MaddenMan
                              How is that an issue? With the 360 you can play any type of music to override the game music by either streaming from your pc or an ipod. Just download that music on your pc and play it when you play those situations.
                              OK. Explain to me how I can get Madden to trigger the theme music going in and out of the quarters but not during the gameplay. I am not talking about mood music here. I am talking about music that is tied to events in the game.
                              If it can do this then great. But what you are sugeesting is the equivalent of saying "turn on your radio" if you think the presentation is lame.

                              Originally posted by MaddenMan

                              Anyways everyone seems to think that next year's version will be Madden/ESPN.
                              So we should wait again until next year? Maybe....MAYBE 3 full years after NFL2k5 was release then EA might catch up presentations wise and collision detection wise.

                              Maybe.

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                              • bkrich83
                                Has Been
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71582

                                #60
                                Re: What does NFL 2K5 have that Madden still doesn't have?

                                Broken Franchise mode?
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