Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

[DirtyJerz32]

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Here you go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp20TyZVxog

Thanks man. That looked good. Should be an interesting start to the summer. Backbreaker, UFC and Mod nation.

[JayBee74]

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You guys are awesome,

[SIM RULES]

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This is a very impressive video. Although I need to see more game play, and how different agile backs, and power backs are, I am pleasantly surprised.

This game appears to have some serious potential. I hope that they are able to deliver a solid sim style game. I did notice some clipping, but it is nothing compared to some of the realism I seen in this video. As a football fan, how could you not get a little excited about the game after watching the video?

[kjcheezhead]

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So you're saying that in the picture in post 65, his foot is not inside the leg of 74? It clips from the bottom of his shoe almost all the way to his knee...

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...74-post65.html

When I watch it real time, he clearly jukes to the outside and goes around it. I had a bitch of a time recreating what your image so if it did clip it was for about 1/4 of a second. I'm not gonna bitch about that when for the first time in over 25 years of playing football video game I see a dude get his foot stepped on and it trips him.

[JayBee74]

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I did notice some clipping, but it is nothing compared to some of the realism I seen in this video.

Did you notice any other clipping outside of the RB's foot through the OL's calf?

[Blzer]

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Makes me wonder why we'd ever want to slide with the QB if there aren't any injuries. Unless, or course, they substitute that with poor ball handling skills and they are prone to fumble more often.

Same with controlling the kicker after kick-off to try and tackle the returner.

[TheKasmar]

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Awesome video, and 74 clearly has his foot stepped on making him fall to the ground.

[jmood88]

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yes we are awesome. we don't nitpick every little detail and complain about it.
I don't know who the 'we' is though lol

Basically, it's cool to go through the video looking for anything that proves that the Physics Based Action!! makes this the greatest football game ever but calling attention to something that the engine was supposed to fix(clipping and player movement) is unacceptable.

[Klocker]

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love how everybody was excited until a dev made an appearance and then everybody and his brother started chiming in with the nitpicking " this and that does not look real or friggin perfect"... oh never change OS, never change.

this game FOR WHAT IT IS TRYING TO DO... looks tight... I will buy. Love the camera, love the stick controls... Go download Tecmo Bowl on XBLA and switch it to retro mode and THAT'S an example of what I grew up playing! (actually go to game room and DL intellivision or Atari 2600 football)

this game with the physics is exactly what any of us should realistically be expecting to play (without the benefit of an NFL license)

[Afrikan]

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You guys are awesome, it's amazing when a lineman can have his foot stepped on by what looks like a 250lb safety and fall down, but then it's suddenly 'nothing to see here, making a big deal of nothing' when the running back's foot clips through almost his entire lower leg, from foot to knee. I guess it's not quite all 'physics based action' and if it is, then there are some collision problems.

I don't think that clipping example sure be ignored...

but the game is kind of weird, I see more instances where you would expect clipping...but it doesn't happen and the players interact with each other realistically...

check out at 3:17 of the slow mo clip.....when his other foot lands, it lands on the defender's arm realistically.....no clipping there.....

So I think maybe there are little glitches that do happen but for the most part there doesn't seem to be any clipping between players...

but I'm sure when the game releases, we'll know if it is a rare occurrence or one that will be an issue.........like in other football games.

[beastwork]

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i'm not a huge fan of having the moves on the analog stick. I mean its ok but whats wrong with using the digital buttons? unless you are going to add sensitivity to the moves ie half jukes and full jukes. just my personal opinion.

it really looks good. now if they capture the AI of a real football game i will be happy.

I loke how some of the haters of this game were trying to describe the eupohoria collisions as "rag dolling". Even saw a madden dev describe it this way. From some of the videos I've seen, clearly that is not the case.

[jmood88]

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i'm not a huge fan of having the moves on the analog stick. I mean its ok but whats wrong with using the digital buttons? unless you are going to add sensitivity to the moves ie half jukes and full jukes. just my personal opinion.

it really looks good. now if they capture the AI of a real football game i will be happy.

I loke how some of the haters of this game were trying to describe the eupohoria collisions as "rag dolling". Even saw a madden dev describe it this way. From some of the videos I've seen, clearly that is not the case.

Did you play NFl 2k5? Using the thumbstick gives you a lot more control over what moves you do than just pressing B to spin or Y to shoulder charge.

[beastwork]

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Nah, he finally moves one of his arms right after he belly flops to the ground, at the same time that number 82 on the right side of the screen pivots all the way around to the left to block a defender instead of escorting runner down the field...

i see at least one or two other players escorting the runningback.. furthermore its a Lineman who is already behind the running back. his escorting duties are no long necessary. the RB has already broken into the secondary.

stop with the mindless hate

[beastwork]

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Did you play NFl 2k5? Using the thumbstick gives you a lot more control over what moves you do than just pressing B to spin or Y to shoulder charge.

i never played 2K5. After seeing the first NFL 2K on dreamcast i was a little turned off. I never gave it a second chance and honestly with madden in those days I was content.

I'm not against it but i'll have to get used to it.

I don't expect the physics in back breaker to be perfect. however football is a game that puts physics on display on every play. Its all about speed and mass. I'm still of the belief that some level of physics can be represented with an animation based system. Euphoria may even be overkill but man does it look great.

With the current tech that is available I can't give my money to a company that doesn't place I high priority on growth in this area.

What if Jurassic Park were done with stop motion animation. as far as in game physics go, that is the comparison I draw between madden and backbreaker.

[mestevo]

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If you aren't pumped for this game yet, you have no soul.

I am excited for what the game could be, but im not getting my hopes up because of how much we still don't know.