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  • QJBeat
    Banned
    • Apr 2010
    • 23

    #121
    Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

    LOL WOW...IT FIGURES THAT THE HATERS WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT A LITTLE WARPING IN THE GAME ...COMON MAN YOU KNOW THE GAME LOOKS GREAT...JUST ONE TACKLE PUTS MADDEN TO SHAME WITH ITS LITTLE PUNK *** ANIMATIONS LOL GIMME A BREAK :wink:

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    • Valdarez
      All Star
      • Feb 2008
      • 5075

      #122
      Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

      Originally posted by bjones16
      People please stop complaining about the warping!! Does it effect gameplay...NO! Praise these good azz animations and how fluid and fun the game looks!
      Originally posted by QJBeat
      LOL WOW...IT FIGURES THAT THE HATERS WOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT A LITTLE WARPING IN THE GAME ...COMON MAN YOU KNOW THE GAME LOOKS GREAT...JUST ONE TACKLE PUTS MADDEN TO SHAME WITH ITS LITTLE PUNK *** ANIMATIONS LOL GIMME A BREAK :wink:
      Sure it has great animations, but there's no reason for players feet to be going through the field. It's the same thing that happens in Madden. It's something that doesn't happen in 2K's games. I don't understand how they could build a new game from scratch and not have the feet planting properly on the field. I noticed the feet warping at normal speed, which means it's visible enough to be noticeable and affect the immersion and overall animation quality.
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      • Dudd
        Rookie
        • Apr 2006
        • 131

        #123
        Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

        The only I don't like is the juking. It's jaring compared to the other moves, the rb just kind of stops on a dime and jumps completely perpendicular to his previous direction. Not even Barry Sanders in his prime could do it like that, even he had to slow down a bit before making a jump cut.

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        • Tyrant8RDFL
          MVP
          • Feb 2004
          • 3563

          #124
          Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

          I really liked what I saw in the video.

          I feel like they are putting the controls of the runner into our hands, and we truly decide what we want to execute.

          I also like the way they mapped it out. I will for sure give this game a chance.
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          • blackscorpion11
            Pro
            • Oct 2008
            • 691

            #125
            Good stuff! I Really like the blocking , as the release gets closer , they're doing a better job of showing us what this game is capable of. Impressive.

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            • blackscorpion11
              Pro
              • Oct 2008
              • 691

              #126
              Originally posted by mestevo
              What's with number 74 in the slow mo sequence towards the beginning? He makes a block and then he seems to lose consciousness and just falls down with his guy.

              The rest of that sequence is really poor too actually the way all the guys we can see just pivot to the nearest defender (even if they're behind them) to start blocking them.

              Looks pretty cool overall, just over 3 weeks until release, demo can't get here quick enough.
              Youre kidding right?

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              • blackscorpion11
                Pro
                • Oct 2008
                • 691

                #127
                Originally posted by mestevo
                What's with number 74 in the slow mo sequence towards the beginning? He makes a block and then he seems to lose consciousness and just falls down with his guy.

                The rest of that sequence is really poor too actually the way all the guys we can see just pivot to the nearest defender (even if they're behind them) to start blocking them.

                Looks pretty cool overall, just over 3 weeks until release, demo can't get here quick enough.
                No disrespect but their feet got tangled during the block..watch it again.. Thats how detailed and physics based this really is!!

                Its impressive, no doubt.. These brits have hit on something.. taking a scientific program for testing physical movements of animals and applying it to a football game??? BRILLIANT!!

                If that same play happens in ncaa 10 or Madden 10, their legs would pass right thru each other with no effect..( we ALL know this)

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                • blackscorpion11
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 691

                  #128
                  I watch this video looking for non-reactions and i can't find one.. I can't see a spot when two players collide big or small with no physical reaction..pretty realistic ..

                  One knock is that i don't like the running animations, they don't take full strides, they take small choppy steps, looks wrong..either that or their legs are moving too fast?

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                  • blackscorpion11
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 691

                    #129
                    Ball carriers look as big as the defenders??

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                    • blackscorpion11
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 691

                      #130
                      Notice they got a commentator with no british accent to explain the video,

                      hmmm

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                      • mestevo
                        Gooney Goo Goo
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19556

                        #131
                        Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                        Originally posted by blackscorpion11
                        No disrespect but their feet got tangled during the block..watch it again.. Thats how detailed and physics based this really is!!

                        Its impressive, no doubt.. These brits have hit on something.. taking a scientific program for testing physical movements of animals and applying it to a football game??? BRILLIANT!!

                        If that same play happens in ncaa 10 or Madden 10, their legs would pass right thru each other with no effect..( we ALL know this)
                        Yes, this has been gone over in the thread, as you surely got to sometime during your 5 straight replies (there's a multiquote btw). The amazing physics appear to allow him to get his foot stepped on, as the runner then clips through his leg from the bottom of his foot to almost his knee with the center of his foot.

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                        • kjcheezhead
                          MVP
                          • May 2009
                          • 3118

                          #132
                          Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                          Originally posted by mestevo
                          Yes, this has been gone over in the thread, as you surely got to sometime during your 5 straight replies (there's a multiquote btw). The amazing physics appear to allow him to get his foot stepped on, as the runner then clips through his leg from the bottom of his foot to almost his knee with the center of his foot.
                          It's very debatable whether any clipping actually occurs or if it's just from the angle of the play. I'll just say I disagree with your assessment and several others have as well.

                          That said, I still don't get how you simply shrug off a dude getting his foot stepped on and getting tripped! No one can deny that happened and no canned animation game has ever had anything but clipping occur in that situation before.

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                          • mestevo
                            Gooney Goo Goo
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19556

                            #133
                            Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                            Actually I'm the first person in the thread that suggested that as the reason for why he fell down, and added (which is awesome) after it.

                            I also posted this picture... which people apparently still don't see clipping in (runner's left foot), or blame the camera view.

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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42517

                              #134
                              Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                              There have been plenty of videos to show clipping, this isn't the first. At least it shall be minimal.
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                              • Valdarez
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 5075

                                #135
                                Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                                Originally posted by mestevo
                                Actually I'm the first person in the thread that suggested that as the reason for why he fell down, and added (which is awesome) after it.

                                I also posted this picture... which people apparently still don't see clipping in (runner's left foot), or blame the camera view.

                                I'll have to go back and look for the feet interaction. Clipping with players, that's expected. Clipping with the field. Um, no. There's absolutely no excuse for it. That needs to be fixed.
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