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  • p_rushing
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2004
    • 14514

    #106
    Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

    Originally posted by canes21
    It does too effect gameplay. We saw the lineman fall when his foot was stepped on, so the RB should have at least stumbled when his foot would have hit the lineman's leg. Is it a big time bug? Not really, I'll still be at Gamestop day one to pick this up, but I definitely would like it to be fixed by release somehow.
    That was an illusion because of the replay angle. Look at the shadows, the position of the players during the cut from the RB, the OL never made it to where the RB was at. Yes there was some clipping, but that was only because of the angle, the RB was to the right of the OL.

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    • catcatch22
      Or should I
      • Sep 2003
      • 3378

      #107
      Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

      They probably made it like almost every other sports game in history where two players on the same team have very limited contact interaction with each other.

      I hate when sports games don't allow collisions between teammates. Rarely and I mean rarely have many sports games in the last 20 years have allowed teammates to interact with each other fully. They always give the advantage to the offense or the human controlled players to be able to get the "benefit" of the doubt. A lot of times they do that to prevent "frustration" and to make the game more "fun". Such as in 2k when thy have your back auto hurdle or when he pushes the back of the lineman automatically for you or the get skinny animation.

      This may be case with backbreaker where the game allows your guys to go past your teammates "easier" than when going by the opposition.

      However the diving running back in the video shows that is not entirely the case. We will just have to wait and see what "advantages" are given to make it more "fun" and not frustrating.
      Last edited by catcatch22; 05-09-2010, 02:31 PM.

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      • jcbsides
        Rookie
        • Apr 2010
        • 29

        #108
        Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

        Either way the game looks good.

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        • JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

          #109
          Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

          Originally posted by p_rushing
          That was an illusion because of the replay angle. Look at the shadows, the position of the players during the cut from the RB, the OL never made it to where the RB was at. Yes there was some clipping, but that was only because of the angle, the RB was to the right of the OL.
          hmmmmm.................that is a possibility.....good eye.

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          • spankdatazz22
            All Star
            • May 2003
            • 6219

            #110
            Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

            Very nice video. The control scheme they've implemented is impressive considering it's their first attempt. I willing to bet they went the extra mile Tiburon doesn't seem to have and implemented unique right-stick controls for the defense (there are some vicious hits in the draft day commercial)
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            • kjcheezhead
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 3118

              #111
              Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

              Originally posted by spankdatazz22
              Very nice video. The control scheme they've implemented is impressive considering it's their first attempt. I willing to bet they went the extra mile Tiburon doesn't seem to have and implemented unique right-stick controls for the defense (there are some vicious hits in the draft day commercial)
              Yes, the defense is done similar to the run controls. This is a quote from the Backbreaker Info Thread. I actually got the info from an Ask a Dev thread on the BB forum:

              Defense: Defensive players controls built with evasive and aggressive mode similar to ball carrier. Evasive mode gives defender maximum agility. Rt trigger enters aggresive mode. Aggressive mode on defense allows the player to take down the ball carrier via a number of tackle types that are triggered by gestures on the right analog stick. Not only can the type of tackle be chosen, but also whether the tackle should be aimed high, to the torso or low to the legs.

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              • NoDakHusker
                Ice Cold
                • Mar 2009
                • 4348

                #112
                Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                Yes, the defense is done similar to the run controls. This is a quote from the Backbreaker Info Thread. I actually got the info from an Ask a Dev thread on the BB forum:

                Defense: Defensive players controls built with evasive and aggressive mode similar to ball carrier. Evasive mode gives defender maximum agility. Rt trigger enters aggresive mode. Aggressive mode on defense allows the player to take down the ball carrier via a number of tackle types that are triggered by gestures on the right analog stick. Not only can the type of tackle be chosen, but also whether the tackle should be aimed high, to the torso or low to the legs.
                Love the ability to choose tackling high or low.
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                • JayBee74
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 22989

                  #113
                  Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                  Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                  Aggressive mode on defense allows the player to take down the ball carrier via a number of tackle types that are triggered by gestures on the right analog stick. Not only can the type of tackle be chosen, but also whether the tackle should be aimed high, to the torso or low to the legs.
                  WOW, the advantage of a high tackle in aggressive mode is obvious (fumble or just a harder hitting tackle). I wonder what advantage a low tackle will yield? Will they have a strip available in aggressive mode? Obviously, in aggressive mode you'd be more prone to miss the ball carrier, particularly if he jukes.

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                  • p_rushing
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 14514

                    #114
                    Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                    Originally posted by kjcheezhead
                    Yes, the defense is done similar to the run controls. This is a quote from the Backbreaker Info Thread. I actually got the info from an Ask a Dev thread on the BB forum:

                    Defense: Defensive players controls built with evasive and aggressive mode similar to ball carrier. Evasive mode gives defender maximum agility. Rt trigger enters aggresive mode. Aggressive mode on defense allows the player to take down the ball carrier via a number of tackle types that are triggered by gestures on the right analog stick. Not only can the type of tackle be chosen, but also whether the tackle should be aimed high, to the torso or low to the legs.
                    That will be great. Now if you have a big RB coming at you, you better try and go low. If you try and go high, you will get shaken off. It will all be in the hands of the players.

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                    • JayBee74
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22989

                      #115
                      Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                      Originally posted by p_rushing
                      That will be great. Now if you have a big RB coming at you, you better try and go low. If you try and go high, you will get shaken off. It will all be in the hands of the players.
                      right-wasn't thinking of that. Can't go hi or lo in evasive mode?
                      Last edited by JayBee74; 05-09-2010, 06:51 PM.

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42517

                        #116
                        Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                        I noticed that the A button can be used for action as well. Do you think that if you don't use the right stick (at least on defense), you can press the A button to initiate an automated tackle type? Or is that to switch players?
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                        • JayBee74
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 22989

                          #117
                          Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          I noticed that the A button can be used for action as well. Do you think that if you don't use the right stick (at least on defense), you can press the A button to initiate an automated tackle type? Or is that to switch players?
                          probably switch players-i think all the tackling is done with the RightStick.

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                          • thedude213
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 119

                            #118
                            Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            I noticed that the A button can be used for action as well. Do you think that if you don't use the right stick (at least on defense), you can press the A button to initiate an automated tackle type? Or is that to switch players?
                            as a ball carrier, A button is to switch the ball between your right and left hand.

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                            • mestevo
                              Gooney Goo Goo
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19556

                              #119
                              Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                              So aggressive mode on defense while attempting to make a tackle is just a better hit stick it sounds like?
                              Last edited by mestevo; 05-10-2010, 01:34 AM. Reason: new page, added context

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                              • kjcheezhead
                                MVP
                                • May 2009
                                • 3118

                                #120
                                Re: Backbreaker Video: Running Game Tutorial

                                Originally posted by mestevo
                                So aggressive mode on defense while attempting to make a tackle is just a better hit stick it sounds like?
                                That's basically the idea I think. They weren't specific on how many right stick moves there were, but I expect aggessive mode would be more for going for the big hit with the stick allowing you to choose what level to aim for while agile mode will probably be where you would find the more solid wrap tackles and the strip ball controls.

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