Favre to the Vikings?

[shnuskis]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

, the best option for the Vikings is to have a QB with a Collins mindset,

I agree. Collins would be perfect for that team. They need a qb that isn't going to turn the ball over. That is why I don't think Sage is the right guy for them either. The way he blew the Indi game last year reminded me of John Grisham's novel Playing For Pizza. Which I would recommend to any football fan who likes to, em, I mean knows how to read. I don't know who blew the game against indi worse last year. Sage or the Vikes. Now they are togather.

[Scottdau]

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I think it's pretty clear you understand what I'm saying and vice versa so I guess we'll agree to disagree. Not that I don't think Favre would like to win another SB but I don't think it has anything to do with thinking about coming back. Last year he would've happily gone to the Lions. This year I think he would've happily gone to the Bears.

I also agree with PPM. I think you're overrating the Vikings offense and underrating the Jets overall. Pennington was the key to a team with less options on offense and a worse defense winning the Jets division. The Jets started losing when the D slipped. Favre had a good stretch but for the most part he was inconsistent all year... plus as the year went on the gameplan seemed to go more and more away from the run (both Jets backs were probowlers last year).


I really don't see much difference in the talks from last year about Favre leading the Jets to the SB and saying the same thing now with the Vikings. The only possible difference is the conference but barring serious injuries the Giants, Eagles, Panthers, Cards, Falcons, Packers and Bears could all have something to say about that. Just like the Jets, the best option for the Vikings is to have a QB with a Collins mindset, Big Ben at the worse (in terms of wanting to pass more than run). Favre is probably the worse QB in the league for that type of system. Of course, that's different than our discussion because Favre would never think that.

What did Chad do in Miami? Also, the D backs will be fine this year and having EJ back is going to make them that much better. Give us a real QB and this team can go far!

[Scottdau]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

This is my thinking Brett is going to move the chains and that will make AD more dangerous. You can't put 8 in the box any more. And once that happens AD will be unstoppable!

[roadman]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

This is my thinking Brett is going to move the chains and that will make AD more dangerous. You can't put 8 in the box any more. And once that happens AD will be unstoppable!

You are forgetting between those chains, interceptions arise.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

I want to know where are people getting the idea from that Favre will just "manage the game" as if it's that easy? Because of his name? Because he is "hungry" to stick it to Ted Thompson and "hungry" to win a Super Bowl?

[TheShizNo1]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

B/c people don't watch or know football or the players

[mvb34]

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I want to know where are people getting the idea from that Favre will just "manage the game" as if it's that easy? Because of his name? Because he is "hungry" to stick it to Ted Thompson and "hungry" to win a Super Bowl?

When has Favre every managed a game? I say never..

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

Not surprised to hear a Viking Fan say that.

[mvb34]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

Not surprised to hear a Viking Fan say that.

Can you answer the question?

[Candyman5]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

Can you answer the question?

Favre has never Managed the game ever. Its all about him and always will be. He makes more excuses then Jeff Gorden in Racing.

[roadman]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

When has Favre every managed a game? I say never..

Heh, bull.

Two words.

Mike Holmgren. Once he left, Favre managed his own game. If Favre ever threw an Int, Holmgren was on the sideline chewing him out.

Never say never.

[shnuskis]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

Can you answer the question?

What is your definition of managing a game?

I would say just last year:

Game 1 vs MIA 20-14 W:15/22, 194 yds 2tds, 0 int. He handed it off 28 times.

Game 2 vs NE 19-10 L: 18-26, 181 yds, 1 int. Handed off 19 times.

Game 9 vs StL 47-3 W:14/19 167 yds, 1 td, 0 int. Handed off 39 times.

I watched the first two and the game was called close to the vest with the passing game. Not unlike Kerry Collins in Tenn.

[shnuskis]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

Heh, bull.

Two words.

Mike Holmgren. Once he left, Favre managed his own game. If Favre ever threw an Int, Holmgren was on the sideline chewing him out.

Never say never.

LOL! I love the soundbites with those two! I'm going to put up a video in my arena of some here in a few minutes.

[wwharton]

Re: Favre to the Vikings?

I agree. Collins would be perfect for that team. They need a qb that isn't going to turn the ball over. That is why I don't think Sage is the right guy for them either. The way he blew the Indi game last year reminded me of John Grisham's novel Playing For Pizza. Which I would recommend to any football fan who likes to, em, I mean knows how to read. I don't know who blew the game against indi worse last year. Sage or the Vikes. Now they are togather.

I'm still open on Sage. He was put in a situation to do more than he should be doing, kind of like Dilfer BEFORE he came to Baltimore. I think it still remains to be seen whether he can reign it in on a consistent basis.

What did Chad do in Miami? Also, the D backs will be fine this year and having EJ back is going to make them that much better. Give us a real QB and this team can go far!

I think you're agreeing with me... can't tell. But I do think if you got the right QB for your team you can go far. In no way do I think Favre is that QB.

Heh, bull.

Two words.

Mike Holmgren. Once he left, Favre managed his own game. If Favre ever threw an Int, Holmgren was on the sideline chewing him out.

Never say never.

Yep. If it were possible for another coach to put him in check then even at 40 I'd consider Favre a top 5 QB in the NFL (on the right team), but over the last 3 years at least I think that possibility has drastically been reduced. I don't think he's controllable, and unlike TO, not being able to control a QB is a death sentence for any head coach.

PPM the stats you posted show that he CAN do it, but I think that was when he was still trying to be the good boy scout for the new team. Once he got more comfortable he started looking more like the pre-2007 Favre, and the coaching staff couldn't do anything about it. I feel sorry for Thomas Jones.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Favre has never Managed the game ever. Its all about him and always will be. He makes more excuses then Jeff Gorden in Racing.

Really. I'm curious to hear these excuses he made.

If somebody can post the stats from the 2nd half of the 07 season for since apparently Favre has never managed a game. I mean I understand everyone pretty much doesn't like him but to try and discredit him by saying he never managed a game, when he has before(not as often recently)is just being bitter and ignorant.

And wwharton, basically just said what I was trying to figure out. Hell, I remember in 07 when Favre came to most of the offseason
activities because normally he'd skip them until Mini-camp. I'm pretty sure McCarthy went thru hell THEN just to get him to come.