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  • burnwood
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 2270

    #106
    Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

    That sounds totally reasonable. Mattison probably doesn't have the secondary as prepared as he likes.

    The front seven though will be prepared because Ray is there. He's constantly calling out assignments and realigning DTs as necessary.

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    • LBzrule
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 13085

      #107
      Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

      Originally posted by burnwood
      That sounds totally reasonable. Mattison probably doesn't have the secondary as prepared as he likes.

      The front seven though will be prepared because Ray is there. He's constantly calling out assignments and realigning DTs as necessary.
      Yep. And his defining moment play at the end was not even a blitz call. He just improvised from what he saw on film and as he said, "took a risk" that he would be right and he was. Kinda wish he would have come away with a sack yesterday too. He missed that one where Rivers ducked under it. Here is the thing. It seems like Lewis picks up schemes quickly. I hope the secondary picks their stuff up pretty damn soon.

      Lastly, Ray may have slowed down over the years, but it was not evident yesterday. I saw on one screen pass in the 4th qtr yesterday, Ray was actually blitzing. The ball was snapped, Lewis was on the pass rush and all of a sudden just peeled off quickly and helped stop the screen. And of course his tackle on Sproles on the swing pass and then that last tackle and two QB pressures and a strip of Gates. Man played was beast yesterday. Wish he could do that every game.
      Last edited by LBzrule; 09-21-2009, 12:51 PM.

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      • JayBee74
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 22989

        #108
        Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

        Originally posted by LBzrule
        Really? Wasn't much for the Raiders who didn't give up near the amount of yardage we did. Face it, the CBs we have are going to have to prove themselves. They are not that physical. They have speed, but lack physicality and technique. It's sad.
        You're right LB- On another note Webb needs some experience, but I like his upside.

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        • LBzrule
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 13085

          #109
          Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

          Originally posted by JayBee74
          You're right LB- On another note Webb needs some experience, but I like his upside.
          I think the Browns will come in this week and stay in the shotgun passing. I know I would. I would test Washington and Foxworth vs Edwards and Cribbs if I were the Browns. Yeah Quinn will be a sitting duck, but if the Ravens only rush 4 then he will have some chances down the field.

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          • burnwood
            MVP
            • May 2003
            • 2270

            #110
            Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

            Originally posted by LBzrule
            And of course his tackle on Sproles on the swing pass and then that last tackle and two QB pressures and a strip of Gates. Man played was beast yesterday. Wish he could do that every game.
            I was amazed Ray tackled Sproles in the open field too on that swing pass. As I saw it developing I said to myself 'Ray don't look like a fool out there', but he had the perfect angle and speed.

            I predict next week will be tough. Landry will be tentative in tackling J-Lew after what happened last year and Reed will be extra careful especially after the Chargers game. Landry popped him pretty good when Vincent leaped like 5 feet to grab that catch. The Browns will threaten early but won't be able to match up the whole game. Especially in the 4th quarter at home.

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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71582

              #111
              Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

              No Jamal Williams, means no rush defense. The defense is completely reliant on his unique ability in the middle.

              This is going to be a long year.
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              • LBzrule
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 13085

                #112
                Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                One thing I want to say too about the Ravens defense is Mattison seems to want to run a defense that we are just not built for. He's used to 4-3 technically sound defenses. We do not have that personnel. At times yesterday we looked like Notre Dame or Florida. He's gotta wake up. This defense and its personnel is built to make the QB move and be inaccurate, which means he's going to have to bring a lot more pressure than he does or else what you saw yesterday is going to be seen again with teams with big WR's. I'll have to look again, but I didn't see him ever bring more than 5.

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                • bkrich83
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71582

                  #113
                  Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                  Give some credit where it's due. Rivers has become a pretty good QB, and the Chargers have a lot of weapons in the pass games.
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                  • JayBee74
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 22989

                    #114
                    Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                    Originally posted by LBzrule
                    I think the Browns will come in this week and stay in the shotgun passing. I know I would. I would test Washington and Foxworth vs Edwards and Cribbs if I were the Browns. Yeah Quinn will be a sitting duck, but if the Ravens only rush 4 then he will have some chances down the field.
                    why not? they won't be able to run.

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                    • LBzrule
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 13085

                      #115
                      Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      Give some credit where it's due. Rivers has become a pretty good QB, and the Chargers have a lot of weapons in the pass games.
                      Not taking anything away from Rivers, Gates, Sproles, Chambers, Jackson or Nene. I just don't think Mattison's approach of "technically sound" fits what the Ravens have on their roster for defense. If anything I think his "technically sound" should be the spotty things he calls and the pressure style of Rex should be more of the norm, especially with our small corners and our struggles to get to the QB with simply four rushers.

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                      • Russell_SCEA
                        SCEA Community Manager
                        • May 2005
                        • 4161

                        #116
                        Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                        Originally posted by LBzrule
                        Not taking anything away from Rivers, Gates, Sproles, Chambers, Jackson or Nene. I just don't think Mattison's approach of "technically sound" fits what the Ravens have on their roster for defense. If anything I think his "technically sound" should be the spotty things he calls and the pressure style of Rex should be more of the norm, especially with our small corners and our struggles to get to the QB with simply four rushers.

                        Also its week 2 know one really knows what kind of team they have until week 5 or 6 it happens every year. The Bills started out 5-0 last year if my memory serves me right.

                        On another note Flacco is cold as ice during those critical third downs I couldn't hear myself talk it was so loud.

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                        • LBzrule
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 13085

                          #117
                          Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          Also its week 2 know one really knows what kind of team they have until week 5 or 6 it happens every year. The Bills started out 5-0 last year if my memory serves me right.

                          On another note Flacco is cold as ice during those critical third downs I couldn't hear myself talk it was so loud.
                          I agree it's only week 2, but the change is something that may not be what the players like. Here is an excerpt on Reed's comments after the game.

                          Free safety Ed Reed acknowledged that the bend-don't-break approach isn't entirely his style.

                          Reed is accustomed to dictating the tempo to quarterbacks and instinctively picking off passes. Against the Chargers, though, he wasn't very active at all as he recorded one tackle with no pass deflections.
                          We are playing bend but don't break and then blitz every now and then. That might be great for a team that has great players up front and can allow the DL to set the tempo. That's what Mattison wants to do. He wants the DL to set the tempo. I just don't think, with the players we have on our roster, we are built for what he wants to do.

                          Now there was a lot of max protect that stopped a few of the blitzes Mattison sent, but, he can get around that by staying with some of the things Rex did. Make them slide their protection one way through alignment and blitz on the run away from the protection. I'm going to give him this Browns game and see what he's got but if we give up double digit points to this team, I'm not sure how much of his approach I'm going to be able to take. Not with Cincy, NE, GB coming up and not to mention the Steelers. All of those passing games are going to be very damn good and if he thinks he can simply bend but don't break and be SOFT I'm don't know how much of it I can watch.

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                          • Russell_SCEA
                            SCEA Community Manager
                            • May 2005
                            • 4161

                            #118
                            Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                            Originally posted by LBzrule
                            I agree it's only week 2, but the change is something that may not be what the players like. Here is an excerpt on Reed's comments after the game.



                            We are playing bend but don't break and then blitz every now and then. That might be great for a team that has great players up front and can allow the DL to set the tempo. That's what Mattison wants to do. He wants the DL to set the tempo. I just don't think, with the players we have on our roster, we are built for what he wants to do.

                            Now there was a lot of max protect that stopped a few of the blitzes Mattison sent, but, he can get around that by staying with some of the things Rex did. Make them slide their protection one way through alignment and blitz on the run away from the protection. I'm going to give him this Browns game and see what he's got but if we give up double digit points to this team, I'm not sure how much of his approach I'm going to be able to take. Not with Cincy, NE, GB coming up and not to mention the Steelers. All of those passing games are going to be very damn good and if he thinks he can simply bend but don't break and be SOFT I'm don't know how much of it I can watch.

                            I will give G.Matt until after the Patriots game to get his act together then I will start to wonder if its time to let him go. I remember him saying he wasn't going to change much during the pre-season but that clearly is not the case. Where are the over load blitzes, Ngata dropping into coverage or playing LB, all the pre-snap movement?

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                            • LBzrule
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 13085

                              #119
                              Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                              OK just rewatched the game. Mattison is not as soft as I thought. In the first half alone we blitzed 10 times and I think I may have missed a couple. I'll count them when I watch it again.

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                              • LBzrule
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 13085

                                #120
                                Re: Week 2: Ravens @ Chargers.

                                Our secondary problems from a week ago had to do with reed and landry doing alot of gambling and overcompensating on Sproles and Gates. Check it out http://www.nfl.com/videos/baltimore-...vens-vs-Browns

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