Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

[jmood88]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

A)Yes you can. If they didn't teach you that in law school, you should ask for a refund.

B)The police have not concluded their investigation. So you wouldn't really know what they were and weren't charging him with. Just because he isn't a suspect NOW, doesn't mean he won't be charged once the investigation has concluded.

If someone is killed at your house then the person who killed them will be held responsible for their death, not you.

Blaming Vick for what people did when he wasn't around is ridiculous, especially when the guy who got shot wasn't supposed to be at the party but showed up anyway.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

A)He is currently serving a prison sentence on the street. He is on what the feds call "Supervised release" and states call Parole. He isn't free. You should think of him being on parole.

B)The difference is that going to the grocery store doesn't put Michael Vick in a position for people to get shot.

C)When you have alcohol, and gang related people, you are INVITING someone to get shot.

So then he should be geting arrested for violating parole correct? Being on parole doesn't mean you can't leave your house, that would be house arrest. So yes, he's free to go to a birthday party at a club if he wants to or not.

B) Yeah, it actually does. People can be shot anywhere, that's why they're called concealed weapons.

C) So then Vick is not allowed to go to boxing matches, concerts, UFC fights, basketball games, other football games, WWE events, Family BBQs, Clubs, Restaurants, schools, gyms or pretty much anywhere that's not his house? Okay, gotcha.

[P2K]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

So then he should be geting arrested for violating parole correct? Being on parole doesn't mean you can't leave your house, that would be house arrest. So yes, he's free to go to a birthday party at a club if he wants to or not.

Then make it a private party where you know exactly will be there. Not one where any ol' body can buy tickets to.

B) Yeah, it actually does. People can be shot anywhere, that's why they're called concealed weapons.

That's totally different. Vick knew some of the people at this party, including his own brother, have had guns, still carry them or have had issues in the past with guns.

C) So then Vick is not allowed to go to boxing matches, concerts, UFC fights, basketball games, other football games, WWE events, Family BBQs, Clubs, Restaurants, schools, gyms or pretty much anywhere that's not his house? Okay, gotcha.

Alot of that stuff can be watched on television. Family BBQs, restaurants, schools...nothing wrong with it, but be careful. Have a bodyguard maybe.

People need to realize Vick is working with a zero tolerance deal here. He gave up alot of his freedoms willingly by doing terrible, illegal things. He put himself under a harsh microscope. Hence, these are the consequences. At least with the law, that is.

Just think...if it were little, broke behind YOU, you would probably still be in prison. With Tank and Big Steve taking your cornbread.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

Then make it a private party where you know exactly will be there. Not one where any ol' body can buy tickets to.

Was it confirmed that there were tickets to be bought to get into the party? I don't remember seeing that, but if it was (which I doubt it was) then you've got a point there.

That's totally different. Vick knew some of the people at this party, including his own brother, have had guns, still carry them or have had issues in the past with guns.

Can't really argue with that one.

Alot of that stuff can be watched on television. Family BBQs, restaurants, schools...nothing wrong with it, but be careful. Have a bodyguard maybe.

This I can't get with. If someone wants to attend that stuff and can, they shouldn't be told they can't cause some other clown may do something stupid. I think we all know that it's a totally different experience actually attending these things in person rather than watching on tv. Cub games I see on tv, hold nothing on the ones I've been to, same with concerts, Bulls games and other events. He probably does take bodyguards to the other places and lets be honest here man, even with a bodyguard with him at a place, if the bodyguard were to get shot, or shot some guy like this person cause they pulled something, we'd be hearing the same "put himself in this position" nonsense.

People need to realize Vick is working with a zero tolerance deal here. He gave up alot of his freedoms willingly by doing terrible, illegal things. He put himself under a harsh microscope. Hence, these are the consequences. At least with the law, that is.

Just think...if it were little, broke behind YOU, you would probably still be in prison. With Tank and Big Steve taking your cornbread.

I get all that, but nothing he did warrants him having to be locked up like a slave in his house going nuts...not anymore than the jail term he's already served. My main problem with it isn't even about Vick, but people say this about EVERY athlete whenever something happens whether they did something or not. You can't expect to take people and just lock them up in their homes forever because other people are stupid. At some point the other parties have to be held accountable. It's like the Ron Artest issue, no doubt what Ron did was wrong, but lost in that whole thing of jumping on Artest and Jackson was the idiot people that get drunk and do this stuff that enables people to continue doing these things. That's all I'm saying really.

[ColumbusKilled]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

If someone is killed at your house then the person who killed them will be held responsible for their death, not you.

Blaming Vick for what people did when he wasn't around is ridiculous, especially when the guy who got shot wasn't supposed to be at the party but showed up anyway.

If someone is killed at your house due to your negligence, then you will be held responsible. That would be in a civil trial. In a criminal case, if Vick had KNOWLEDGE that a crime would occur, he would be held responsible for NOT for being there but BECAUSE he was aware that it was going to occur.

I blame Vick because its up to him to act in a REASONABLE manner.

So then he should be geting arrested for violating parole correct? Being on parole doesn't mean you can't leave your house, that would be house arrest. So yes, he's free to go to a birthday party at a club if he wants to or not.

B) Yeah, it actually does. People can be shot anywhere, that's why they're called concealed weapons.

C) So then Vick is not allowed to go to boxing matches, concerts, UFC fights, basketball games, other football games, WWE events, Family BBQs, Clubs, Restaurants, schools, gyms or pretty much anywhere that's not his house? Okay, gotcha.

A)He is free to do whatever he wants, as long as he realizes that there are consequences for his actions. This just shows how thoughtless he is - he doesnt deserve the honor of being on the streets.

B)That makes no sense.

C)Vick should stay inside being a saint. You wouldn't for 5.5 million dollars and your freedom?

[ColumbusKilled]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

Was it confirmed that there were tickets to be bought to get into the party? I don't remember seeing that, but if it was (which I doubt it was) then you've got a point there.

Can't really argue with that one.

[N51_rob]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

Looks to me like star quality entertainment threw the party.

[ColumbusKilled]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

For Michael Vick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

If someone is killed at your house due to your negligence, then you will be held responsible. That would be in a civil trial. In a criminal case, if Vick had KNOWLEDGE that a crime would occur, he would be held responsible for NOT for being there but BECAUSE he was aware that it was going to occur.

I blame Vick because its up to him to act in a REASONABLE manner.

I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your posts, but are you serious right now? You're saying that Vick knew this guy was going to get shot? You're saying right now that Vick conspired to shoot this guy right now, based on??????? You can't be serious right now.

[ColumbusKilled]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your posts, but are you serious right now? You're saying that Vick knew this guy was going to get shot? You're saying right now that Vick conspired to shoot this guy right now, based on??????? You can't be serious right now.

This dude was shot at Vick's party. Vick is gang related, he was engaged in a violent criminal enterprise. Someone who he testified against shows up at his party, Vick leaves, and not 30 minutes later guy is shot?

Yeah, Im serious.

Are YOU serious?

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

Dude you can't sit here and try to preach to people about getting refunds for law school like you know what you're talking about and then speculate. If this dude shows up and Vick leaves and he gets shot 30 minutes later, Vick isn't responsible for that just because...he ran a criminal enterprise and is gang related. Maybe you need to get our law school refunds and your own with this nonsense. You can't hold Michael Vick responsbile for someone getting shot at a party with his name on it. That's like saying the Wal-Mart is responsible for an old lady getting hit by a car in the parking lot where some guy is doing 20 in the lot.

[N51_rob]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

Delete your post before the mods see it.

[wwharton]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

This dude was shot at Vick's party. Vick is gang related, he was engaged in a violent criminal enterprise. Someone who he testified against shows up at his party, Vick leaves, and not 30 minutes later guy is shot?

Yeah, Im serious.

Are YOU serious?

So now Vick's gang related? Dog fighting was his cover for gun toting and gang banging? Maybe Vick should've stayed to avoid the accusations of being the Hampton Godfather, lmao.

[Cebby]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

Was it confirmed that there were tickets to be bought to get into the party? I don't remember seeing that, but if it was (which I doubt it was) then you've got a point there.

That doesn't really matter.

I've been let into a few private parties because I was friends with promoters.

However, I am loving the notion that Vick is some kind of top level crime lord.

[KG]

Re: Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick

Dude you can't sit here and try to preach to people about getting refunds for law school like you know what you're talking about and then speculate. If this dude shows up and Vick leaves and he gets shot 30 minutes later, Vick isn't responsible for that just because...he ran a criminal enterprise and is gang related. Maybe you need to get our law school refunds and your own with this nonsense. You can't hold Michael Vick responsbile for someone getting shot at a party with his name on it. That's like saying the Wal-Mart is responsible for an old lady getting hit by a car in the parking lot where some guy is doing 20 in the lot.

I'm gonna side with the guy who actually studies law. Anything that possibly implicates Vick, whether knowingly or due to his negligence could have it all taken away from him. I know something can jump off at any time but there are certain situations where incidents like this can increase in probability.