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  • Vince
    Bow for Bau
    • Aug 2002
    • 26017

    #661
    Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

    Originally posted by RockinDaMike
    Cards are cutting Levi Brown tomorrow taking 17 mil off cap

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/76...lear-cap-space
    Isn't he the Cards best offensive lineman?

    whether Arizona gets Manning or not, you cannot go into training camp with Kolb. IMO the worst starter in the league.
    @ me or dap me

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    • wwharton
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2002
      • 26949

      #662
      Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

      Originally posted by Broncos86
      I think Miami's recent struggles hurt their chances.
      Originally posted by Broncos86
      I agree. But then you look at all the playoff teams from last year. Only ONE team has big ol' question mark at QB. Miami had issues where you mentioned, but it's still an unknown. Then you consider that the Broncos are a team that made the playoffs and are on an upswing. The coaching, personnel, and players are there already. It needs ONE piece of the puzzle. Combine that with things like John Elway, and it's tough to argue against going to Denver.

      (disclaimer: I'm bias. )
      Yeah, I'd go as far as say you're blinded a bit by your bias. Miami's recent struggles? What about Denver's recent struggles? They limped into the playoffs and barely beat a banged up Steelers team, and were pushing 6 wins the last two years before? Let's not act like Denver is all of a sudden the future of the league.

      Manning goes to Denver, Miami, Tennessee or Arizona... he likely brings Wayne and/or Clark with him. That drastically changes the look of any of those teams which furthers the reason last year's records or whatever else should be thrown out the window. But even with that, all 3 of those teams would've had a shot at making the playoffs if they played in the AFC West last year so lets not act like Denver is the golden egg and these other spots are swirling around the gutter.

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      • Broncos86
        Orange and Blue!
        • May 2009
        • 5505

        #663
        Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

        The difference is that Denver is a team that has a nucleus and a coaching staff in place now. And they limped into the playoffs despite a QB who had A sub-50% completion rating. I'm not saying Denver is an elite team or whatever.

        I'm not saying Miami isn't a team that, with the addition of Peyton Manning, would soar. Manning to Brandon Marshall could be lethal (if Marshall doesn't drop the ball and throw temper tantrums for being chewed out by Manning). I'm just saying that last year, Miami struggled all year while Denver was in the limelight as a story of success. Miami is getting a new coaching staff, which adds a question mark. Denver's coaching staff is in place, with Mike McCoy being considered for a head-coaching position during this past off-season.

        Those are great positives for the team, there is more current positive momentum for Denver than Miami. And for those who like to take things out of context (there are plenty), that's not to say Miami doesn't have positive momentum. That means Denver has more currently.
        Last edited by Broncos86; 03-13-2012, 12:03 PM.

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        • TripleCrown9
          Keep the Faith
          • May 2010
          • 23714

          #664
          Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

          But it's South Beach. Who cares how good the team is? Sure he has a lot of teams after him, but none of them have the appeal or nightlife of Miami. Arizona? Maybe when he retires. Denver? What is he, a lumberjack? Tennessee? The only time he goes to Tennessee is to beat Tennessee, and to make country albums. It will happen one day. Miami is what it's all about. The sun, the surf, the clubs, Dan Marino. The choice is a no-brainer.

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          • Broncos86
            Orange and Blue!
            • May 2009
            • 5505

            #665
            Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

            Originally posted by SwampStomper90
            Denver? What is he, a lumberjack?
            Wait, what? Since when did Denver turn into Canada?

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            • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
              Next Miami Great
              • Dec 2008
              • 4285

              #666
              Originally posted by Vince
              Isn't he the Cards best offensive lineman?

              whether Arizona gets Manning or not, you cannot go into training camp with Kolb. IMO the worst starter in the league.
              Levi brown is a bum.

              Sent from Jesus EVO

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              • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                Next Miami Great
                • Dec 2008
                • 4285

                #667
                Miami struggled early in the season. Once Matt Moore came in an gave them a bit of consistency we saw glimpse of how good they can be. Their defense is better then Denvers. They have better WRs, marshal put Thomas to shame an Bess is one of the best slot wrs in the game while Decker is just adequate. They have a decent TE in fasano while Denver has nothing. Miamis OL is also better then Denvers. The run game is a toss up imo. As much as I love McGahee, he's old an a lot of their production came from Tebow being a threat to run. Bush finally looked like an NFL HB last year but who knows if it will last.

                Sent from Jesus EVO

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                • wwharton
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 26949

                  #668
                  Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

                  Originally posted by Broncos86
                  The difference is that Denver is a team that has a nucleus and a coaching staff in place now. And they limped into the playoffs despite a QB who had A sub-50% completion rating. I'm not saying Denver is an elite team or whatever.

                  I'm not saying Miami isn't a team that, with the addition of Peyton Manning, would soar. Manning to Brandon Marshall could be lethal (if Marshall doesn't drop the ball and throw temper tantrums for being chewed out by Manning). I'm just saying that last year, Miami struggled all year while Denver was in the limelight as a story of success. Miami is getting a new coaching staff, which adds a question mark. Denver's coaching staff is in place, with Mike McCoy being considered for a head-coaching position during this past off-season.

                  Those are great positives for the team, there is more current positive momentum for Denver than Miami. And for those who like to take things out of context (there are plenty), that's not to say Miami doesn't have positive momentum. That means Denver has more currently.
                  Just more of the same. Denver just got a new coach last year and, as you said, they made the playoffs... just like Baltimore, Miami and Atlanta did the first year they got a new coach. And Denver was in the limelight as a story of success? Who are you kidding? Broncos fans were pissed they were in the news so much because it was all centered around Tebow not some story of success.

                  Denver's got a lot to offer but so do all the other teams. Manning isn't on OS so all this used car salesman talk is being wasted here, lol. The situation isn't anywhere near as attractive as you want to make it seem (or may even actually believe).

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                  • Broncos86
                    Orange and Blue!
                    • May 2009
                    • 5505

                    #669
                    Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

                    Originally posted by wwharton
                    Just more of the same. Denver just got a new coach last year and, as you said, they made the playoffs... just like Baltimore, Miami and Atlanta did the first year they got a new coach. And Denver was in the limelight as a story of success? Who are you kidding? Broncos fans were pissed they were in the news so much because it was all centered around Tebow not some story of success.

                    Denver's got a lot to offer but so do all the other teams. Manning isn't on OS so all this used car salesman talk is being wasted here, lol. The situation isn't anywhere near as attractive as you want to make it seem (or may even actually believe).
                    Okay, Out of Context Man.

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                    • wwharton
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26949

                      #670
                      Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

                      Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                      Miami struggled early in the season. Once Matt Moore came in an gave them a bit of consistency we saw glimpse of how good they can be. Their defense is better then Denvers. They have better WRs, marshal put Thomas to shame an Bess is one of the best slot wrs in the game while Decker is just adequate. They have a decent TE in fasano while Denver has nothing. Miamis OL is also better then Denvers. The run game is a toss up imo. As much as I love McGahee, he's old an a lot of their production came from Tebow being a threat to run. Bush finally looked like an NFL HB last year but who knows if it will last.

                      Sent from Jesus EVO
                      This is all true... then we also consider that Arizona was a heartbeat from the playoffs shuffling QBs all year last year (and as a wild card team, not winning the division with a crappy record). Fitzgerald is the most attractive offensive piece of anyone, and the running game will also be better than any other option besides maybe Tennessee when they're all healthy.

                      Tennessee was also hovering around the playoffs all last year with CJ starting insanely slow and Kenny Britt missing most of the season. They also have the advantage of being where he played college ball, and in the same division as the Colts (so he's most familiar with those teams he'll be playing twice a year).

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                      • wwharton
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26949

                        #671
                        Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

                        Originally posted by Broncos86
                        Okay, Out of Context Man.
                        What's out of context? You're overselling them. Not trying to burst your bubble, just telling you why you need to dial it back a bit.

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                        • Beantown
                          #DoYourJob
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 31523

                          #672
                          Originally posted by wwharton
                          This is all true... then we also consider that Arizona was a heartbeat from the playoffs shuffling QBs all year last year (and as a wild card team, not winning the division with a crappy record). Fitzgerald is the most attractive offensive piece of anyone, and the running game will also be better than any other option besides maybe Tennessee when they're all healthy.

                          Tennessee was also hovering around the playoffs all last year with CJ starting insanely slow and Kenny Britt missing most of the season. They also have the advantage of being where he played college ball, and in the same division as the Colts (so he's most familiar with those teams he'll be playing twice a year).
                          Don't forgot about New England, where he'd have the best coach in the league, wouldn't have to face Brady an could sit and rest his neck for a few years until Brady retires.

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                          • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                            Next Miami Great
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4285

                            #673
                            Imo if he wants to win right away an have a great compliment of weapons then he should go to the Chiefs. I don't see it happening but they got the wrs, the defense an the hb. Everything he needs to be successful as long as he's still the Peyton manning of old.

                            Sent from Jesus EVO

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                            • wwharton
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 26949

                              #674
                              Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

                              Originally posted by Beantown
                              Don't forgot about New England, where he'd have the best coach in the league, wouldn't have to face Brady an could sit and rest his neck for a few years until Brady retires.
                              Exactly. If he has any time left of being the Peyton Manning of old (meaning just a year ago) there isn't a single team he doesn't transform... even if it's a future scenario. It's kind of silly to talk about the scenarios like one is hands down better than another. If anything, it seems Denver has an edge because it seems like it'd be the easiest for them to bring in a couple of his buddies too.

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                              • Bdubb
                                In Bill we trust
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 1014

                                #675
                                Re: The Peyton Manning Discussion thread

                                With what they are doing right now I'm having the Dolphins are landing Manning vibe.

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