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  • ImTellinTim
    YNWA
    • Sep 2006
    • 33028

    #15466
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
    There's plenty of athletes with good head on their shoulders. People just choose not to talk about them for some reason
    Yep, from the way everything is covered, you'd never guess that the NFL has a lower rate of domestic violence arrests (and arrests in general) than the general public. You want a sport with domestic violence problems? Check out MMA.

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    • NDAlum
      ND
      • Jun 2010
      • 11453

      #15467
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
      There's plenty of athletes with good head on their shoulders. People just choose not to talk about them for some reason
      This is just everything in general. Bad news = great ratings I guess.
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      • redsox4evur
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2013
        • 18169

        #15468
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
        Yep, from the way everything is covered, you'd never guess that the NFL has a lower rate of domestic violence arrests (and arrests in general) than the general public. You want a sport with domestic violence problems? Check out MMA.
        I agree with you on MMA. But I don't know where you got your numbers for the NFL, but the ones I saw they were worse or close to the national average . I saw this on a Real Sports piece on HBO about domestic violence in MMA.
        Last edited by redsox4evur; 08-11-2015, 11:03 AM.
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        • mestevo
          Gooney Goo Goo
          • Apr 2010
          • 19556

          #15469
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          I don't usually watch Real Sports but was that the segment w/ 'Maniac Miller' - that was good stuff, crazy. I don't remember any stats from it, but there was analysis last year showing that it's something like 56% of the general population's rate of domestic violence arrests.

          http://www.realclearscience.com/blog...l_players.html
          So why then do 69% of Americans believe that the NFL suffers a "widespread epidemic of domestic violence problems"? The answer is rooted in how we think. Humans are prone to rely on examples and experiences that can be easily recalled. The idea is that if we can remember it, it must be important. This mental shortcut is termed the availability heuristic. A key drawback of the heuristic is that it leads us to overestimate the prevalence of memorable events. Here, you can legitimately blame popular media. Because plane crashes are widely covered, many erroneously view flying as more dangerous than driving. Thanks to Shark Week, people are wearier of sharks than deer. Because 91% of people have seen, read, or heard something about Ray Rice's domestic violence, they overestimate the problem of domestic violence in the NFL.

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          • redsox4evur
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2013
            • 18169

            #15470
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by mestevo
            I don't usually watch Real Sports but was that the segment w/ 'Maniac Miller' - that was good stuff, crazy. I don't remember any stats from it, but there was analysis last year showing that it's something like 56% of the general population's rate of domestic violence arrests.

            http://www.realclearscience.com/blog...l_players.html
            So why then do 69% of Americans believe that the NFL suffers a "widespread epidemic of domestic violence problems"? The answer is rooted in how we think. Humans are prone to rely on examples and experiences that can be easily recalled. The idea is that if we can remember it, it must be important. This mental shortcut is termed the availability heuristic. A key drawback of the heuristic is that it leads us to overestimate the prevalence of memorable events. Here, you can legitimately blame popular media. Because plane crashes are widely covered, many erroneously view flying as more dangerous than driving. Thanks to Shark Week, people are wearier of sharks than deer. Because 91% of people have seen, read, or heard something about Ray Rice's domestic violence, they overestimate the problem of domestic violence in the NFL.
            Yep it was...as you said it was a very interesting piece. I never watch it either I just happened to see it was on at like 11 or midnight and nothing else was on, so I decided to put it on. I don't remember the actual numbers they came up with either. But I think it was close to the national average.
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            • slickdtc
              Grayscale
              • Aug 2004
              • 17125

              #15471
              NFL Off Topic

              Yeah, the problem is in comparison to their peers economically (people with money), they're committing the crime of domestic violence at a similar or higher rate according to the article. Doesn't supply actual numerical evidence, just a strong feeling by the author.

              So I don't think the perception is too far off. The problem is that things you can get away with as just an average Joe, you can't as an athlete under the surveillance of 24/7 media and social media. Not exactly get away with it, but you or I don't have the reach of celebrity that athletes do. We'd be hated by friends and family for beating our wives, but not the population at large.

              Funny. Athletes used to be able to slide by on their reputation. Now they're being scrutinized (justifiably) for something they probably would have been able to get away with or get swept under the rug years ago.

              Good article.
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              • ImTellinTim
                YNWA
                • Sep 2006
                • 33028

                #15472
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                Yep it was...as you said it was a very interesting piece. I never watch it either I just happened to see it was on at like 11 or midnight and nothing else was on, so I decided to put it on. I don't remember the actual numbers they came up with either. But I think it was close to the national average.
                No, not close to the national average. A little over half.

                Last week, the NFL suspended Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice for two games over an incident in which Rice was charged with knocking his fiancee (now wife…


                Also gets into comparing based on economic factors. However, whether they should be compared on that criteria is another discussion.

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                • jb12780
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 10665

                  #15473
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  So the new Sunday Ticket thing they announced with ATT didn't change a thing for me. I punched in my address and I'm still not eligible for it.

                  They need to look at how MLB does their package. There's a reason why the NHL made a partnership with them.

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                  • jWILL253
                    You know why I'm here...
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1611

                    #15474
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    So, the NFL might go from no teams in LA, to THREE teams in LA.
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                    • areobee401
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16771

                      #15475
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Roger is holding a 5PM press conference today. Brady also missed practice for reasons described as non-injury related.

                      Could it all possibly be coming to an end?
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                      • ImTellinTim
                        YNWA
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 33028

                        #15476
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by areobee401
                        Roger is holding a 5PM press conference today. Brady also missed practice for reasons described as non-injury related.

                        Could it all possibly be coming to an end?
                        It was already known they were meeting today. Judge ordered them to meet to try to come to a settlement before he had to make a decision.

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                        • areobee401
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 16771

                          #15477
                          NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                          It was already known they were meeting today. Judge ordered them to meet to try to come to a settlement before he had to make a decision.

                          Oh I know, but Roger holding a press conference gives me hope an agreement was finally reached.

                          Edit - On second thought probably about the stupid draft staying in Chicago.
                          Last edited by areobee401; 08-11-2015, 04:20 PM.
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                          • redsox4evur
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #15478
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                            It was already known they were meeting today. Judge ordered them to meet to try to come to a settlement before he had to make a decision.
                            Tim that meeting was set up for tomorrow morning between 9-11 and they are going to meet in the robe room, I think.
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                            • ThreeKing
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 5852

                              #15479
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              LOL, does ANYONE like this dude??

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                              • TripleCrown9
                                Keep the Faith
                                • May 2010
                                • 23663

                                #15480
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Hey TK, what's your opinion on Cutler? You hardly ever say anything about him.
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