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  • kingkilla56
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jun 2009
    • 19395

    #1831
    Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

    So Ed Reed got suspended for a game today for repeat violation of hits on defenseless receivers.
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    • TracerBullet
      One Last Job
      • Jun 2009
      • 22119

      #1832
      Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

      Titus Young will not play vs. Houston this Thursday. Was sent home today from the facility, and has been benched for behavior on Sunday and clashes with coaches.
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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52896

        #1833
        Re: NFL Off Topic 2012



        He's simply the freakin' man.

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        • Kaiser Wilhelm
          MVP
          • Sep 2010
          • 2790

          #1834
          Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

          I'm not a big Ed Reed fan, but that is bull. The hits aren't flagrant and are so spaced out it is just stupid. Then again, I still do not understand this rule so what do I know.
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          • wwharton
            *ll St*r
            • Aug 2002
            • 26949

            #1835
            Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

            Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
            I'm not a big Ed Reed fan, but that is bull. The hits aren't flagrant and are so spaced out it is just stupid. Then again, I still do not understand this rule so what do I know.
            My issue is saying it's because of repeated offenses. If the new standard is that players will get suspended then it is what it is, but repeated offenses over a 3 years span where only one of the 3 seemed blatantly disregarding the new rules (and that one was in the first year of the rule change)? That's crap to me.

            But it's said that fines haven't been working (I agree) so if the new thing is suspension then it is what it is. Reed clearly didn't intend to hit Sanders in the head but being real, we all know the rule now. Players need to approach trying to avoid the possibility rather than just saying what they didn't mean to do after it happened. I'm sure everyone who's played football will cringe at this, but he needs to go in at the knee to sweep the leg... only real way to assure not hitting in the head in that situation.

            Also, Reed's injuries have been effecting his tackling ability for years. In many cases like this one he would just move out of the way or close to it. Just a sad state of where he is right now... doesn't change the fact that a head to head collision could shorten a player's career/life. As long as the league is consistent with this stronger penalty I'm actually fine with it.

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            • wwharton
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2002
              • 26949

              #1836
              Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

              Ed Reed's penalty has been reduced to a $50,000 fine.

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              • LambertandHam
                All Star
                • Jul 2010
                • 8008

                #1837
                Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                Originally posted by wwharton
                My issue is saying it's because of repeated offenses. If the new standard is that players will get suspended then it is what it is, but repeated offenses over a 3 years span where only one of the 3 seemed blatantly disregarding the new rules (and that one was in the first year of the rule change)? That's crap to me.

                But it's said that fines haven't been working (I agree) so if the new thing is suspension then it is what it is. Reed clearly didn't intend to hit Sanders in the head but being real, we all know the rule now. Players need to approach trying to avoid the possibility rather than just saying what they didn't mean to do after it happened. I'm sure everyone who's played football will cringe at this, but he needs to go in at the knee to sweep the leg... only real way to assure not hitting in the head in that situation.

                Also, Reed's injuries have been effecting his tackling ability for years. In many cases like this one he would just move out of the way or close to it. Just a sad state of where he is right now... doesn't change the fact that a head to head collision could shorten a player's career/life. As long as the league is consistent with this stronger penalty I'm actually fine with it.
                If only the League Office would take a hard stance against cut blocking. Guys are loosing seasons and possibly careers over this.
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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #1838
                  Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                  From NFL EVP Ray Anderson on Ed Reed:

                  “We want him to hit below the head and neck area,” Anderson said. “We’d like to see him use his shoulder. We’d like to see him wrap up in a more traditional technique. But we absolutely do not want to see head to head, shoulder, forearm to head or neck area, no real attempt to wrap, and almost going missile-like up high. We cannot have those in the game any longer.”
                  Anderson said that Reed, who was penalized on Sunday for a helmet-to-helmet hit, fined once earlier this year for a helmet-to-helmet hit and also fined in 2010 for a helmet-to-helmet hit, has run out of chances.
                  “Ed Reed, unfortunately, is a repeat offender. We put the burden on the defender to alter his target in those situations when a player is defenseless,” Anderson said. “Hits to the head and neck area potentially are life altering as well as career altering,” Anderson said. “Hits to the head and neck area are our biggest concern and we are absolutely intent on getting those out of the game. We can’t defer any longer to fines as the primary deterrent. They are not effective.”
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • LambertandHam
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 8008

                    #1839
                    Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    From NFL EVP Ray Anderson on Ed Reed:
                    That's one hell of a warning shot to the rest of the league.
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                    • mestevo
                      Gooney Goo Goo
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 19556

                      #1840
                      Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                      Said Cottrell in the letter to Reed: “I have determined that your actions were egregious and warrant significant discipline. However, I do not believe that your actions were so egregious as to subject you to a one-game suspension without pay. P layer safety is the league’s primary concern in the formation of playing rules and all players are expected to adhere to those rules or face disciplinary action. I hope in the future you will focus on ensuring that your play conforms to the rules.”

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                      • N51_rob
                        Faceuary!
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 14805

                        #1841
                        Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                        I love when he says wrap up more. As far as I can tell Ray Anderson has never played on the defensive side of the ball. He was a HS Quarterback and shortstop and as far as I can find played at Stanford. No mention of position. I get what he is saying, but if someone like Merton Hanks were to say wrap-up more it would carry more weight that a "suit"
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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #1842
                          Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                          According to the League(from PFT.com)Hanks(VP of Football Ops) made the decision to suspend Reed originally.
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • N51_rob
                            Faceuary!
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 14805

                            #1843
                            Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                            Yeah, that I knew, but his scathing little criticism seems to be from a guy who never played defense.
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                            • mestevo
                              Gooney Goo Goo
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19556

                              #1844
                              Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                              He's also a guy who has reviewed every single illegal hit in the last couple of years, a lawyer, and has represented coaches and players. Hardly inexperienced at his job and certainly qualified to make those statements. I don't see a problem with the very common sense problem that he is trying to solve. Too much hitting, not enough tackling.

                              His scathing little criticism is coming from the guy who is going to recommend fines or suspensions for your actions.

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                              • N51_rob
                                Faceuary!
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 14805

                                #1845
                                Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

                                Originally posted by mestevo
                                He's also a guy who has reviewed every single illegal hit in the last couple of years, a lawyer, and has represented coaches and players. Hardly inexperienced at his job and certainly qualified to make those statements. I don't see a problem with the very common sense problem that he is trying to solve. Too much hitting, not enough tackling.

                                His scathing little criticism is coming from the guy who is going to recommend fines or suspensions for your actions.
                                Like I said, he has never played defense. He can say, do, fine who ever he wants. Watching every illegal hit is different from trying to make a tackle and having your "target" move, duck adjust while you are in the action of making the tackle. I've got no problem with the fine (then suspension). I just find it comical that a "a lawyer, and has represented coaches and players" is telling people how to tackle. I also never called his experience in his current job into question. I know you like to rush to the defense of the NFL in all things NFL, but don't try to put words in my mouth.
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