NFL Off Topic

[wwharton]

Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

That's one hell of a warning shot to the rest of the league.

It's actually not though. I'm not against Goodell and the league office the way most are but they are horrible at picking and choosing their battles. Reed did not launch at the head and his target was clearly below the neck. Sanders turned around and lowered his center while tucking his head. In short, in THIS case, Reed's intent was exactly what was described and it still resulted in a head to head collision.

What I'd rather they say (which is what they mean) is they want players to approach a defenseless receiver in a way that it's hard to make any contact to the head at all. Their wording is on the impact, and all players have to come back with is "It's impossible to stop momentum, know how the receiver will move just before impact, etc." I'm behind what they're trying to do but they're doing a horrible job of explaining/teaching players how to do it.

If this were even Reed's hit in the Pats game (also unintentional but a clear head shot, upward motion, etc) then it's a perfect one to make an example of. This hit barely deserved a flag. So they rightfully pull it back to just a fine and then the league looks like they don't know what they're doing again. Pick and choose your battles better.

[jeremym480]

For someone who has never played defense, he his certainly giving out great advice.

Very few players wrap up anymore (especially in college). If more linebackers and defensive backs did maybe we wouldn't see such shoddy defenses every weekend

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[roadman]

Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

For someone who has never played defense, he his certainly giving out great advice.

Very few players wrap up anymore (especially in college). If more linebackers and defensive backs did maybe we wouldn't see such shoddy defenses every weekend

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McCarthy made tackling a mandate during the off-season for the lousy tackling in the Packers defense last year.

Even Sam Shields was making some nice wrap up tackles before he was injured.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

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If they really want to send a message, start fining receivers and quarterbacks for promoting these situations. If a receiver has left himself open it is his fault as well as the Qbs. If a receiver gets hit in the head because he lowered his center of gravity and ducks his head, its just as much, if not more his fault.

The problem is the NFL is dead set on only taxing defensive players with responsibility. This is why I see their attempts as half-hearted and purely based on PR. They want the image of trying to crackdown on this behavior without hampering the quality of their selling point, which is offense.

[TheShizNo1]

McCarthy made tackling a mandate during the off-season for the lousy tackling in the Packers defense last year.

Even Sam Shields was making some nice wrap up tackles before he was injured.

I haven't watched the Packers much. Does it look like the work w/ tackling paid off?

[ubernoob]

I haven't watched the Packers much. Does it look like the work w/ tackling paid off?

Night and day difference between last year and this year.

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[jmood88]

Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

For someone who has never played defense, he his certainly giving out great advice.

Very few players wrap up anymore (especially in college). If more linebackers and defensive backs did maybe we wouldn't see such shoddy defenses every weekend

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I don't have an opinion on the Reed suspension because I haven't watched the Ravens all year but I'm glad that the league is telling defenders to stop launching themselves at other players. I can't stand seeing all the missed tackles from guys stupidly putting their head down and trying to run into someone instead of just wrapping up.

[roadman]

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I haven't watched the Packers much. Does it look like the work w/ tackling paid off?

Yes, very much so.

It also helps they don't have Charlie Peprah trying to tackle AP.

Seriously, Ted Thompson went out and picked the first players in the draft as defensive players and I think most of them have started. Thompson told McCarthy he wanted to have the younger players playing in the early part of the season so they could help them out during the later part of the season.

It's a difference of night and day the tackling between this season and last season.

[Feared]

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Is it just me or does Matt Schaub have the worst luck of any QB in the league, other than his team being good. Earlier in the year he gets part of his ear torn off when a Vicious hit from Joe Mays ripped his helmet off, then yesterday Ndamukong Suh delivers a swift kick to the family Jewels as a way to give Thanksgiving to Schaub.



Really there's been other instances too, where I thought man this guy is so unlucky just can't think of them now.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

Or being on the receiving end of dirtiness from Albert Haynesworth or Jared Allen, or doing heinously awesome things in the 2010 season only to lose because of a historically bad defense....yeah, he's pretty unlucky as far as QBs are concerned. Not sure if he's the most unlucky.

I'm waiting for something to happen to him to keep him out of the playoffs considering our record and this year. But I'm pessimistic like that, lol.

[BlastX21]

Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

Or being on the receiving end of dirtiness from Albert Haynesworth or Jared Allen, or doing heinously awesome things in the 2010 season only to lose because of a historically bad defense....yeah, he's pretty unlucky as far as QBs are concerned. Not sure if he's the most unlucky.

I'm waiting for something to happen to him to keep him out of the playoffs considering our record and this year. But I'm pessimistic like that, lol.

Yeah, if they wrap up a top 2 seed with 3 or so games to go, I'd just tank the rest of the season to keep guys healthy. Let the Ravens take the 1-seed and have home field. A healthy Texans team on the road has a better chance of winning than an injured one at home.

[Other Guy]

Re: NFL Off Topic 2012

Or being on the receiving end of dirtiness from Albert Haynesworth or Jared Allen, or doing heinously awesome things in the 2010 season only to lose because of a historically bad defense....yeah, he's pretty unlucky as far as QBs are concerned. Not sure if he's the most unlucky.

I'm waiting for something to happen to him to keep him out of the playoffs considering our record and this year. But I'm pessimistic like that, lol.

Throw Drayton Florence in there too, and to top it all off, Schaub is always near the bottom of the list for roughing calls received. (Probably why Kubiak was flying off the handle on Thursday)

[Feared]

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Throw Drayton Florence in there too, and to top it all off, Schaub is always near the bottom of the list for roughing calls received. (Probably why Kubiak was flying off the handle on Thursday)

Yeah it just seems like Schaub isn't really well "respected" around the league.

Defenders go hard for every QB but say if they land a hit on Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees I've seen them actually help them back up, and pat them on the helmet. Like a sign of mutual respect. If that's Peyton Manning on Thanksgiving I doubt Suh tries that flailing foot maneuver, for the outrage it would cause.

[TheMatrix31]

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Throw Drayton Florence in there too, and to top it all off, Schaub is always near the bottom of the list for roughing calls received. (Probably why Kubiak was flying off the handle on Thursday)

Oh yeah, Drayton Florence.

[TracerBullet]

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Goodbye Seattle if this stands:

Seattle Seahawks starting cornerbacks Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner are facing four-game suspensions for violating the NFL's performance-enhancing drug policy, according to league sources.

Both Sherman and Browner tested positive and are appealing their suspensions, insisting they are innocent, according to sources. The appeal could be heard as early as this week.

Don't think they can survive on Trufant.