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  • ImTellinTim
    YNWA
    • Sep 2006
    • 33028

    #20731
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by seasprite
    Is it just me, or are we seeing more and more players retiring earlier than expected.


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    This is a weird one to say that on. Guy played 12 seasons and was washed up.

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    • seasprite
      Phenom
      • Jul 2008
      • 8984

      #20732
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by ImTellinTim
      This is a weird one to say that on. Guy played 13 seasons and was washed up.

      Think it was more about the amount of retirements this year. My comment is certainly more applicable to Lynch and Johnson, but I was actually surprise to hear of the Allen retirement as well.


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      • ImTellinTim
        YNWA
        • Sep 2006
        • 33028

        #20733
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        I don't blame these guys that have gotten their big pay day not wanting to squeeze 2 struggle years out of their bodies anymore. They simply don't have to these days.

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        • kingkilla56
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2009
          • 19395

          #20734
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by seasprite
          Is it just me, or are we seeing more and more players retiring earlier than expected.


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          Yes, but Jared Allen is kinda up there.
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          • seasprite
            Phenom
            • Jul 2008
            • 8984

            #20735
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            Yes, but Jared Allen is kinda up there.

            For whatever reason, I thought he was much younger. My bad, I'm having a bad week lol


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            • areobee401
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2006
              • 16771

              #20736
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by LowerWolf
              A guy like Sanchez or McCown can hold the fort down if the starter goes down for a couple of weeks. That's their value. If the starter goes down for the season in Week 4, then you're better off going with a guy with potential upside.
              I would rather see cap space used in other areas instead of a McCown or Sanchez type backup QB. A QB currently developing in your system might not give the team as great a chance at winning, but I don't believe the gap is large enough that going the McCown or Sanchez route is undoubtedly the way to go about it.

              Four week window or an entire season, I want the young kid out there.
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              • Hassan Darkside
                We Here
                • Sep 2003
                • 7561

                #20737
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Does Ryan Fitzpatrick count?
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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #20738
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by kingkilla56
                  Yes, but Jared Allen is kinda up there.
                  I'd somewhat disagree, 8-10 years is about what you'd expect for a star NFL player. What makes this different is that we're seeing some guys who seemingly have a lot in the tank retiring "earlier" than we expect them to. It doesn't help that it's all happening over the course of one offseason.
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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #20739
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    I'd somewhat disagree, 8-10 years is about what you'd expect for a star NFL player. What makes this different is that we're seeing some guys who seemingly have a lot in the tank retiring "earlier" than we expect them to. It doesn't help that it's all happening over the course of one offseason.

                    He's played for 12 years and is 33.

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                    • dsallupinyaarea
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2764

                      #20740
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Jerod Mayo is the better case study. 29, dinged up but could pretty easily get another job. Took his money and left.
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                      • seasprite
                        Phenom
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 8984

                        #20741
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                        Jerod Mayo is the better case study. 29, dinged up but could pretty easily get another job. Took his money and left.

                        He's finished the last few years on the IR hasn't he? Great player and hate that his career has been cut short.


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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #20742
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          He's played for 12 years and is 33.
                          I know, I was just piggybacking off his answer to a more broader based question.
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                          • slickdtc
                            Grayscale
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 17125

                            #20743
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by areobee401
                            I would rather see cap space used in other areas instead of a McCown or Sanchez type backup QB. A QB currently developing in your system might not give the team as great a chance at winning, but I don't believe the gap is large enough that going the McCown or Sanchez route is undoubtedly the way to go about it.



                            Four week window or an entire season, I want the young kid out there.

                            I mean, if what you're paying your backup is reasonable, I don't think he's the make or break reason why you can't sign a FA to fill a gap elsewhere. Not sure many teams have been like, "Wish we could sign X player but we're paying our backup so much we just weren't able to do it."

                            I think there is a very big difference between McCown/Sanchez types and a rookie prospect who has no business being out there on the field yet. We've gone over how some of these QB prospects don't even know the seemingly most basic coverages. McCown/Sanchez know them and have seen them. They may still throw directly in to them, but I'll take my chances there.

                            Like I said, I'm with you on taking a chance on a prospect. But my starter goes down for 4-6 weeks, I want a guy who has experience. Putting in a player who is not ready is like forfeiting those games. Yes, there's a chance he could be the next Roethlisberger but it's overwhelming against him.

                            I just can't agree that if your starter goes down for a stretch of games that you should take a huge gamble on a player that isn't ready by all measures except actual game experience. That's just my outlook.
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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #20744
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              I feel like there's a few other factors being left out that go beyond simply just saying "I rather go with a young, unproven guy than a retread" at QB.

                              Context is key here.
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                              • areobee401
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 16771

                                #20745
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                I feel like there's a few other factors being left out that go beyond simply just saying "I rather go with a young, unproven guy than a retread" at QB.

                                Context is key here.
                                No context needed. I want no part in wasting a Sunday afternoon watching Mark Sanchez stink up Gillette Stadium. There is literally zero entertainment to be had there. If that means going 1-3 or 0-4 over that stretch so be it.

                                And if starting Mark Sanchez as a backup is what saves your 8-8 season, you have bigger problems than who your backup is.
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