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[ggsimmonds]

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It is mostly #1. As Pack mentioned, Sherman only played one side of the field. And to be honest, the talk of his dominance has died down since he began following. This is why many have said there is no such thing as a shut down corner anymore. Norman was used the way that he has been, and succeeded up to this point in his career.

But with that said, Breeland is a pretty damn good up and coming corner back in his own right. Hindsight is 20/20 but it's not a stretch for a D Coordinator feeling comfortable with Breeland and Norman playing on the side their comfortable and doing a good job no matter who lines up across from them. The kid just got abused by arguably the best WR in the league right now. I don't really know why it's a big deal. Brown's done it to many before him and will do the same to many after him.

It shouldn't be a big deal, you are right.

You are wrong about one thing though. Brown is not arguably the best WR in football; he is hands down the best.

However, the other side of a hockey hit directly to the head is the super-hard shell of an elbow or shoulder pad. The worst head hits in hockey are actually worse than football. The reasons are 1) the head is often the focal point of the hit and nothing else 2) the other end is usually a super-hard elbow or shoulder-pad against either no helmet or little protection (with both players moving fast) 3) being knocked out before you fall onto ice means the possibility of being hurt further or killed if your head hits the ice wrong. A college referee died because he tripped in warmups and hit his head last year.

I also remember more hockey players retiring due to fear over one more concussion over the years than football players.

A real hard elbow does not do the same type of long lasting damage that a helmet hit does though. It is similar to boxing and when it converted to the big boxing gloves. When they used bare fists there were more injuries per fight and guys looked a lot rougher after the fight, but the padded gloves actually do more serious long term damage to the head.

[slickdtc]

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I dunno man, have you seen when a player hits a guy up high in hockey and the snapping effect it has on the head and neck?

Wouldn't that be equivalent to the "driving through a player" that's prevalent in football? While a helmet to helmet is more like a crunching against the boards in hockey?

Maybe you're right that it looks worse but isn't as damaging. Still severe enough. Like getting hit by a car compared to a truck. You're gonna be injured badly either way.

[ggsimmonds]

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I dunno man, have you seen when a player hits a guy up high in hockey and the snapping effect it has on the head and neck?

Wouldn't that be equivalent to the "driving through a player" that's prevalent in football? While a helmet to helmet is more like a crunching against the boards in hockey?

Maybe you're right that it looks worse but isn't as damaging. Still severe enough. Like getting hit by a car compared to a truck. You're gonna be injured badly either way.

Those types of hits are not as common in hockey though. I think even those hits aren't as bad as the big football hits, but I lack the medical knowledge to say with any certainty.

But a hit against the boards in hockey is nothing like a helmet to helmet hit in football.

[kehlis]

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Those types of hits are not as common in hockey though. I think even those hits aren't as bad as the big football hits, but I lack the medical knowledge to say with any certainty.

But a hit against the boards in hockey is nothing like a helmet to helmet hit in football.

Don't happen often? They happen at least a dozen times a game? Every hit is a high hit.

[ggsimmonds]

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Don't happen often? They happen at least a dozen times a game? Every hit is a high hit.

I see a lot of shoulder checks, but not that many hits where the head receives the initial impact.

[kehlis]

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I see a lot of shoulder checks, but not that many hits where the head receives the initial impact.

He wasn't talking about hits directly to the head though, he was talking about high hits that result in the violent jolt of the neck and head into boards.

You're 100% right in that there are very few direct hits to the head.

[ggsimmonds]

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He wasn't talking about hits directly to the head though, he was talking about high hits that result in the violent jolt of the neck and head into boards.

You're 100% right in that there are very few direct hits to the head.

Okay, I thought he was talking about hits like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pan973u3jyE

Those are brutal and do some damage, but those are the ones that don't happen as often.

Either way I wouldn't expect either athlete to be solving complex mathematical equations after their playing days are over.

[steelerfan]

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Agreed, regardless of if it's selve serving or not I'm happy to see it go to a cause rather than to have line someone's pockets who don't need them to be further lined.

I'm jaded enough to believe that nearly every "cause" exists solely to line someone's pockets.

[TripleCrown9]

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Apologies if I missed it, but no talk about next year's HOF-eligible players?

Hines Ward
Chad Johnson
Jason Taylor
Donovan McNabb
Brian Dawkins
Bob Sanders
LaDainian Tomlinson
Joey Porter

[TheMatrix31]

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Apologies if I missed it, but no talk about next year's HOF-eligible players?

Hines Ward
Chad Johnson
Jason Taylor
Donovan McNabb
Brian Dawkins
Bob Sanders
LaDainian Tomlinson
Joey Porter

Nope. Too busy talking about distractionary bull****.


Obviously LT. I also think Jason Taylor and Brian Dawkins fit the definition what I would say is a Hall of Fame career. Leaning yes on McNabb too.

[TracerBullet]

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These last couple of hall of fame nominees have just started making me feel old. A lot of these guys were the guy on their teams when I really started playing Madden. Also, Olin Kreutz and Derrick Mason are missing from your list TC9.

Also kind of crazy looking at other players who have been retired for 5 years now. Larry Johnson, Ricky Williams, Jeremy Shockey (actually feels like longer for him), Thomas Jones, Matt Light, etc.

[steelerfan]

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Hines Ward is a no-brainer, though I'm sure he'll have to wait.

I'm not sold on Joey Porter. I'd love to see him make it but I'm not holding my breath.

[PeoplesChampGB]

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Nope. Too busy talking about distractionary bull****.


Obviously LT. I also think Jason Taylor and Brian Dawkins fit the definition what I would say is a Hall of Fame career. Leaning yes on McNabb too.

I wouldn't vote for him. Hall of Good. Yes. Hall of Fame. Nah. I would put Warner in though.

[Dog]

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Dawkins should get it. McNabb won't.

Lol at Bob Sanders being on the list. Dude played like 14 total games his entire career


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[ProfessaPackMan]

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Bob Sanders??