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  • mestevo
    Gooney Goo Goo
    • Apr 2010
    • 19556

    #34936
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Rams and NFL settle with St. Louis for $790m.
    The fact that only one day of mediation resulted in a lump-sum settlement between St. Louis and the NFL means that an expansion team won’t be part of the negotiated package. Instead, the St. Louis entities get a lump-sum payment.

    So will the conclusion of the courtroom hostilities in a mutually-acceptable manner lay the foundation for the NFL returning to St. Louis if/when (when) the league inevitably expands? At one source with knowledge of the dynamics predicted on Wednesday, the “bad blood” arising from the months of litigation that eventually forced the league to fork over nearly $800 million means that the NFL’s business in St. Louis has been concluded for a very long time, if not for good.

    Some will say that the NFL will eventually need St. Louis if, as we recently explained, the league could begin a push toward 40 teams. Even if two teams land in London, that’s six domestic locations that will be needed, in time.

    But here’s the reality. The future growth of the league will be driven not by dropping teams in specific cities but by broadcasting games to all of them, specifically to the ones in which sports betting is legal. Smaller markets with smaller stadium can support teams moving forward, because the “where” doesn’t matter. The revenue from the game location doesn’t matter. The TV and gambling money from each game will become the key.

    What matters is more. More teams. More games. And the push by St. Louis for more from the league after the Rams left could mean that any eventual expansion plans will pass St. Louis by.

    Thus, all that St. Louis will possibly ever get from the NFL, ever again, is the current $790 million settlement.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #34937
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Wonder why they settled as opposed to taking it straight to trial?
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • Master Live 013
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2013
        • 12327

        #34938
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys.
        OSHA Inspector for the NBA.

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        • mestevo
          Gooney Goo Goo
          • Apr 2010
          • 19556

          #34939
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Looks like Amazon could become not just the exclusive home of Sunday Ticket but also a minority owner of NFL Media (Network. Red Zone, etc).

          Amazon has taken pole position in negotiations for outside investors to buy a piece of the NFL's sprawling media empire.


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          • mestevo
            Gooney Goo Goo
            • Apr 2010
            • 19556

            #34940
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by Master Live 013
            Couldn't happen to a nicer group of guys.
            It's an early Christmas for the NFL. Seems it's the last thing people in St. Louis wanted. Literally 1 day into mediation and they settle.

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            • Jr.
              Playgirl Coverboy
              • Feb 2003
              • 19171

              #34941
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by mestevo
              Looks like Amazon could become not just the exclusive home of Sunday Ticket but also a minority owner of NFL Media (Network. Red Zone, etc).

              Amazon has taken pole position in negotiations for outside investors to buy a piece of the NFL's sprawling media empire.


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              This is interesting because Jeff Bezos keeps coming up as a name in the eventual Broncos sale.

              Would this potentially block him from being able to purchase the Broncos?

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              My favorite teams are better than your favorite teams

              Watch me play video games

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              • ggsimmonds
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jan 2009
                • 11235

                #34942
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Is anyone else unsure of how they feel with DPI penalties on underthrown balls where there is contact because the receiver suddenly stops and comes back to the ball? Saw it in the OT of the Raiders-Cowboys game to set up the GW FG. Just seems like a very difficult position for a defender to be in

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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #34943
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                  Is anyone else unsure of how they feel with DPI penalties on underthrown balls where there is contact because the receiver suddenly stops and comes back to the ball? Saw it in the OT of the Raiders-Cowboys game to set up the GW FG. Just seems like a very difficult position for a defender to be in
                  I've never liked it myself. It's rewarding the offense for a bad throw
                  My favorite teams are better than your favorite teams

                  Watch me play video games

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                  • p_rushing
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 14514

                    #34944
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Wonder why they settled as opposed to taking it straight to trial?
                    Originally posted by mestevo
                    It's an early Christmas for the NFL. Seems it's the last thing people in St. Louis wanted. Literally 1 day into mediation and they settle.
                    NFL wanted nothing to do with discovery, they will do whatever they need to so they stay out of court. They got more money and less costs because if you can get a threat of discovery, the NFL folds.

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                    • mestevo
                      Gooney Goo Goo
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 19556

                      #34945
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Originally posted by p_rushing
                      NFL wanted nothing to do with discovery, they will do whatever they need to so they stay out of court. They got more money and less costs because if you can get a threat of discovery, the NFL folds.

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                      And that's the thing, some were saying the NFL's liability could be in the billions if St. Louis went through with a trial. It's why a significant penalty in addition to getting an expansion franchise was being talked about. Relative to that, less than $800m is getting off really light.
                      St. Louis has asked to be awarded the $550 million that the Rams paid the NFL as a relocation fee, as well as the increase in the franchise value since the move.

                      Forbes estimated the Rams’ franchise value at $1.45 billion in 2016, just before the Rams moved, and at $4.8 billion in 2021.

                      Throw in the tax revenue St. Louis lost when the Rams moved, and damages could top $4 billion, independent of any punitive damages.

                      There is no guarantee that even a hometown jury would award anywhere near that much money, but the risk could compel a settlement of at least $2 billion, said Patrick Rishe, who teaches sports business at Washington University in St. Louis.

                      A favorable judge and a nebulous NFL relocation policy is helping St. Louis beat Stan Kroenke and fellow owners in court over the Rams' move to L.A.


                      Punitive damages could have been even more astronomical as depending on the circumstances they could multiply.

                      Remains to be seen if there's any infighting over how that's being paid with Kroenke recently balking about the legal coverage he'd promised previously, but outside of that this was absolutely Christmas in November for the NFL as they wrapped up 4+ years of litigation with a single day of mediation.

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                      • slickdtc
                        Grayscale
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 17125

                        #34946
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                        Is anyone else unsure of how they feel with DPI penalties on underthrown balls where there is contact because the receiver suddenly stops and comes back to the ball? Saw it in the OT of the Raiders-Cowboys game to set up the GW FG. Just seems like a very difficult position for a defender to be in


                        Hate it because it’s being exploited now. There are QB’s who are using it as a strategy, it should be addressed.
                        NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
                        NFL - Buffalo Bills
                        MLB - Cincinnati Reds


                        Originally posted by Money99
                        And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                        • IlluminatusUIUC
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 2667

                          #34947
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by slickdtc
                          Hate it because it’s being exploited now. There are QB’s who are using it as a strategy, it should be addressed.
                          Brady and Manning have been doing this since the mid 2000s. Getting free yards by working the refs like this is part of what makes a QB jump from good to elite.
                          Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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                          • slickdtc
                            Grayscale
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 17125

                            #34948
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Hated them too
                            NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
                            NFL - Buffalo Bills
                            MLB - Cincinnati Reds


                            Originally posted by Money99
                            And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                            • mestevo
                              Gooney Goo Goo
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19556

                              #34949
                              Re: NFL Off Topic
                              The Raiders-Cowboys’ Thanksgiving game is projected to be the most-watched NFL regular-season game on any network since 1990, per @CBSSports.

                              The game delivered an estimated average of 38.531 million viewers.

                              It was also the most-streamed Paramount+ game ever.



                              Some context via PFT.
                              Nothing on American television, other than NFL postseason games, draws anything close to that number. This year’s most-watched World Series game drew 14 million viewers. This year’s most-watched NBA Finals game drew 12.5 million viewers. This year’s Academy Awards drew 9.9 million viewers.

                              The most-watched NBA game ever, Michael Jordan‘s last game with the Chicago Bulls in the 1998 NBA Finals, drew 35.9 million viewers.

                              Last edited by mestevo; 11-26-2021, 04:19 PM.

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                              • steelerfan
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 4338

                                #34950
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Hmm. Maybe the NFL knows what they're doing with their Thanksgiving Day lineup after all.

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