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[jasontoddwhitt]

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Chuck Pagano is apparently going to be doing this every week on The Pat McAfee Show for the Thursday night game, and it's awesome.

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[Blzer]

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Here's a stupid question:

Why do quarterbacks who roll out of the pocket and have a clear opportunity to throw a ball away when getting heat on them take the sack? I should see this ball be thrown away 95% of the time, with the other 5% being a result of them tucking the ball in and not having a shot.

I was consciously aware of this at least twice this past Sunday, and I just saw it in the TNF game as well.

[ggsimmonds]

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Another week of Stanley, Dobbins, and Edwards still recovering from 2021 preseason injuries. And we added new ACL and achilles tears to the list. Something ain't right

[Blzer]

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So I'm on delay and currently watching the CHI-GB game recording from Sunday night.

There is a play where after a replay a player is ruled down by contact short of the goalline, but it was clearly within a foot of the line. After review, they place a ball at the 1-yard line.

My question is... why? Why is it not placed where the ball was down? Why is it that everywhere else in the field it's placed right where they were down, but here they say: "Nope, bring it back a yard away."

Same thing I don't get about DPI in the endzone being placed at the 1 instead of either being a TD or pretty much literally right on the goalline, whereas a hold in the opposite endzone is a safety.

Anyway, this ended up being costly. The next play was 4th down, and a replay review can't guarantee that they make it over the goalline... but if it was placed 2-2.5 feet closer, it's an easy score.

I don't get it. Even if I did, I wouldn't agree.

[stlducks]

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To what extent does a team's training and medical staff impact injuries?
How would one know when a staff is not doing a good job?

I ask because of Baltimore. It just seems like up and down the roster when guys get hurt it takes longer than expected to recover. We got guys who suffered ACL tears preseason of last year who still aren't ready, meanwhile on other teams there are guys that suffered the injury late during the regular season that are already back on the field.

I understand everyone is different, but like I said its for every injury a Raven sustains. Over the past few seasons Baltimore has been hit hard by injuries and the recovery times do make me wonder

I thought the same for the 49ers specifically RBs and DBs. Every season the top RB and 2 or 3 defensive backs get hurt. At what point do you blame coaching?


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[Laboog]

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Here's a stupid question:

Why do quarterbacks who roll out of the pocket and have a clear opportunity to throw a ball away when getting heat on them take the sack? I should see this ball be thrown away 95% of the time, with the other 5% being a result of them tucking the ball in and not having a shot.

I was consciously aware of this at least twice this past Sunday, and I just saw it in the TNF game as well.

What about the QBs who run out of bounds behind the LOS instead of throwing the ball away? That is very frustrating to watch too.

[TheShizNo1]

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Blzer, hit up a coaching clinic this winter. Most of them have "rules of the game" type sessions and will even send you home with a power point.

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[Blzer]

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What about the QBs who run out of bounds behind the LOS instead of throwing the ball away? That is very frustrating to watch too.

In my mind I guess I had implied this part in my post without saying it, but you're absolutely right. I think that is more infuriating.

Now I do tend to forget that players don't see a blue or yellow line on the field as we do on TV (and off-topic even from NFL OT but I wish video games allowed us the option to disable this if we wanted), but the QB should always be aware for passing reasons and the sidelines would have the chain gang right there for you to see. That definitely leaves me flummoxed.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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DPI in the end zone should not be an automatic TD. Why should it be assumed that if the WR interfered with, that it would be an automatic TD, when we’ve seen guys drop wide open passes with no one around them.

Placing it at the 1(in this specific instance, any other DPI should just be 15 yards, depending on where on the field the Offense is at)is perfectly fine.

And placing the ball right on the goal line would be kinda pointless because the ball would pretty much already break the plane just from it laying there. Hell, you can try this out at home and I guarantee a part of the ball will be over that line.

Edit: Looking at the replay now(Actual Game, not all-22, they placed the ball exactly where it was at when his knee went down, so it was halfway between the goal line and the 1 yard line, not exactly at the 1.

[Blzer]

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DPI in the end zone should not be an automatic TD. Why should it be assumed that if the WR interfered with, that it would be an automatic TD, when we’ve seen guys drop wide open passes with no one around them.

Placing it at the 1(in this specific instance, any other DPI should just be 15 yards, depending on where on the field the Offense is at)is perfectly fine.

My counter to that is a hold in your own endzone is a safety. Why should we assume that a sack occurs?

Maybe that should place them at their 1-yard line as well.

And placing the ball right on the goal line would be kinda pointless because the ball would pretty much already break the plane just from it laying there. Hell, you can try this out at home and I guarantee a part of the ball will be over that line.

Then place it 1 inch away, I suppose. Tell the defense to not interfere with a pass in the endzone if they don't want to play against that offensive reward.

One yard can still be pretty long. It's three feet. That is not where the foul occurred, and had a foul not occurred it is possible of that touchdown happening.

The initial point though was that this play that I saw was at a spot that they could declare for themselves. The player was down probably 8 inches from the goal line, but after review since they didn't break the plane they placed it back 36 inches away from the goal line. The next play they were stuffed (controversially so, which also went to replay and simply couldn't be determined), but those 28 inches made all the difference between them scoring and not scoring.

I don't get why it wasn't placed where the player was ruled down upon review, whereas anywhere else on the field they would do exactly that.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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My counter to that is a hold in your own endzone is a safety. Why should we assume that a sack occurs?

Maybe that should place them at their 1-yard line as well.



Then place it 1 inch away, I suppose. Tell the defense to not interfere with a pass in the endzone if they don't want to play against that offensive reward.

One yard can still be pretty long. It's three feet. That is not where the foul occurred, and had a foul not occurred it is possible of that touchdown happening.

The initial point though was that this play that I saw was at a spot that they could declare for themselves. The player was down probably 8 inches from the goal line, but after review since they didn't break the plane they placed it back 36 inches away from the goal line. The next play they were stuffed (controversially so, which also went to replay and simply couldn't be determined), but those 28 inches made all the difference between them scoring and not scoring.

I don't get why it wasn't placed where the player was ruled down upon review, whereas anywhere else on the field they would do exactly that.

I agree with placing it at the 1 or halfway between the 1 and goal line on holds in the end zone! That’s a silly one just like giving teams an automatic TD on DPI in the end zone!

Everything else I stand on. DPI being placed at the 1 yard line is fine. You get 4 extra chances to punch it in and if you can’t do that because you needed an extra 20 inches or so, that’s on you.

Do you screenshots of that 3rd and Goal run where he was considered down and where they actually placed the ball at on the 4th and goal? Just wanna see something right quick.

[Laboog]

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DPI in the end zone should not be an automatic TD. Why should it be assumed that if the WR interfered with, that it would be an automatic TD, when we’ve seen guys drop wide open passes with no one around them.

Placing it at the 1(in this specific instance, any other DPI should just be 15 yards, depending on where on the field the Offense is at)is perfectly fine.

And placing the ball right on the goal line would be kinda pointless because the ball would pretty much already break the plane just from it laying there. Hell, you can try this out at home and I guarantee a part of the ball will be over that line.

Edit: Looking at the replay now(Actual Game, not all-22, they placed the ball exactly where it was at when his knee went down, so it was halfway between the goal line and the 1 yard line, not exactly at the 1.

If you make DPI to be 15 yards only, wouldn’t defenses take advantage of that rule? Anytime a defender is beat 20+ yards downfield they would just tackle the receiver and only give up 15 yards.

[Scott]

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I'd rather make DPI half the distance to the goal.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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FWIW, the referees do have the power to award a touchdown for a "palpably unfair act" but I can't imagine a scenario where DPI would ever rise to that standard. The only time I would have made that call in all the games I've ever watched was what Tomlin wandered on the field like a doofus and interfered with a kick return.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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If you make DPI to be 15 yards only, wouldn’t defenses take advantage of that rule? Anytime a defender is beat 20+ yards downfield they would just tackle the receiver and only give up 15 yards.

True but I’ll take that 15 yard penalty compared marking it where the interference “may” have occurred.

I put “may” in quotations because we all know how WRs love to flail their arms at the slightest amount of contact from a DB, even from uncatchable balls. They game that real good, especially on potential home run shots.