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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #36736
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by kehlis
    This new rule is absolutely atrocious. Fair catches on kickoffs to the 25?

    So many players who ended up being great started their career making an impression on special teams. That is now a completely moot point.


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    We FINALLY get a competent ST Units on the team and they wanna implement this mess.

    Not a fan of this at all.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • illwill10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2009
      • 19791

      #36737
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by reyes the roof
      I look at it the complete opposite. Unless the coverage team makes an extraordinary play you’re probably looking at a worst case scenario of starting around the 20. I’m willing to risk those five yards for an opportunity break off a big return. Granted the skill level of my returner will also be a factor
      Speaking as an Eagles fan who's team doesn't have a good ST unit overall(outside of kicker), I'm all for just going for fair catches and hoping the opposing team does the same since Eagles ST unit is the weakness of the team

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      • reyes the roof
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2009
        • 11521

        #36738
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by illwill10
        Speaking as an Eagles fan who's team doesn't have a good ST unit overall(outside of kicker), I'm all for just going for fair catches and hoping the opposing team does the same since Eagles ST unit is the weakness of the team
        Yeah that’s the thing, as a Bears fan I’ve spent my life watching incompetent offenses that rely on defense and special teams to score

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        • IlluminatusUIUC
          MVP
          • Jan 2010
          • 2667

          #36739
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by mestevo
          Yeah, but all of that is the reason for independent medical professionals that answer to both the team and the union. 'Just let the team manage it' works for roster building, absolutely, but not medical decisions. Needs to be some level of transparency (at least between medical and labor) and accountability there.

          I think we all saw Tua's "back injury" after the Matt Milano hit in Week 3. The independent medical system is not working well enough to put added strain on it.
          Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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          • IlluminatusUIUC
            MVP
            • Jan 2010
            • 2667

            #36740
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            FWIW if you just squib the kick they have to return it. That may become the dominant strategy.
            Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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            • kehlis
              Moderator
              • Jul 2008
              • 27738

              #36741
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC
              FWIW if you just squib the kick they have to return it. That may become the dominant strategy.
              Why couldn't a fair catch be signaled for a squib kick? I don't think I saw a minimum distance the ball must travel before it can be waived for.

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              • reyes the roof
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 11521

                #36742
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by kehlis
                Why couldn't a fair catch be signaled for a squib kick? I don't think I saw a minimum distance the ball must travel before it can be waived for.
                Once it hits the ground there can’t be a fair catch

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #36743
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by reyes the roof
                  Once it hits the ground there can’t be a fair catch

                  Understand that but if that’s the tactic being used to get it downfield far enough to actually be problematic wouldn’t they be able to just waive for the FC pretty much right away?


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                  • reyes the roof
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 11521

                    #36744
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by kehlis
                    Understand that but if that’s the tactic being used to get it downfield far enough to actually be problematic wouldn’t they be able to just waive for the FC pretty much right away?


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                    You can call for the fair catch right away but the second the ball touches the ground there is no more fair catch

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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52896

                      #36745
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Gotta love unnecessary rule changes that limit game variance.

                      It's like a ****ing contagion.

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                      • SmashMan
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 9687

                        #36746
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        If they're really intent on changing it, why not just steal the XFL's kickoff rules?

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                        • IlluminatusUIUC
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 2667

                          #36747
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          Understand that but if that’s the tactic being used to get it downfield far enough to actually be problematic wouldn’t they be able to just waive for the FC pretty much right away?

                          What reyes said.


                          Once the ball goes 10 yards, its live for both teams, and once it touches the ground the FC signal means nothing. They can fall on it if they want, but they would get it where the returner dropped.
                          Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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                          • legendkiller5
                            The Lord of #Hashtags
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 7731

                            #36748
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by Kramer5150
                            It's getting harder and harder for me to watch this game anymore tbh....this is a game I grew up watching with my Grandpa and can remember watching the greats...Staubach, Bradshaw, Tarkenton and so on....so when I see all these rule changes it takes away what attracted me to the game as a youngin'.

                            Throw in the ridiculous pay these players get, and it just takes that "feeling" away for me.


                            The pro bowl? yeah now a freakin' flag football game....sooo many great plays from great players are now (to me) a thing of the past...thanks to the "golden boy" Brady, you so much as say nasty word to a QB you get a 15 yarder...and whatever you do don't try and tackle one.

                            This latest rule about kickoffs is a complete joke, as has been mentioned a lot of these guys earn their way to the roster by way of special teams...hell would Terrell Davis been noticed if it wasn't for the hit he made on special teams?
                            Yeah, you're going to have to explain that one to me.

                            What "feeling" is being taken away from players getting paid FMV?
                            Rice Owls - Houston Astros/Dynamo/Rockets/Texans - Arsenal - PSG

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                            • Kramer5150
                              Medicore Mike
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 7384

                              #36749
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by legendkiller5
                              Yeah, you're going to have to explain that one to me.

                              What "feeling" is being taken away from players getting paid FMV?
                              The "feeling" that I'm referring to is that I'm sick and tired of hearing about how much they love the game but when they don't get the payout they think they deserve then they will decide to holdout or what-not.

                              If the love of the game is that strong then I feel they should play for that reason, NOT just the ridiculous amounts of money they are getting paid...

                              I'm sure I'll get backlash over my thoughts, but at this point I really don't care, athletes (imo) are WAY over paid...some haven't done squat in the league but yet are getting these inflated contracts...for what?
                              People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                              “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                              “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                              • IlluminatusUIUC
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 2667

                                #36750
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by Kramer5150
                                I'm sure I'll get backlash over my thoughts, but at this point I really don't care, athletes (imo) are WAY over paid...some haven't done squat in the league but yet are getting these inflated contracts...for what?

                                The inflated contracts for guys who "haven't done anything" went away with the rookie cap.

                                TBH the NFL keeps making money hand over fist and given the choice, I'd rather that money go to the players over the owners.
                                Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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