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[IlluminatusUIUC]

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"NFL owners approved the bylaw proposal allowing teams to dress a third QB without using an active roster spot, I’m told. A no-brainer to bring it back in the aftermath of the San Francisco playoff game."

In predictable NFL fashion, they bring back something they rightly got rid of, in the dumbest way possible.


As written, a team can only bring in a 3rd QB if the first two QBs are out due to injury. If the medical staff clears one of the first 2, they have to come in immediately and the 3rd QB is ineligible again until that guy is hurt.


All you're doing is incentivizing medical staffs to lie! And what's more, this wouldn't have even solved the San Francisco situation because Brock Purdy was cleared to play.


Just freaking do this:


"The Gameday Roster is increased to 47 players. Three of them must be QBs."

Done. Printed.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1661031804608954373?s=46&t=bmmyw4g-qEId3d4KHhv-qw

[kehlis]

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This new rule is absolutely atrocious. Fair catches on kickoffs to the 25?

So many players who ended up being great started their career making an impression on special teams. That is now a completely moot point.


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[illwill10]

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"NFL owners approved the resolution putting the ball on the 25-yard line following a fair catch on a kickoff, I’m told.

Special teams coordinators unanimously opposed the change, but it’s happening."



Since that's the case, I think most teams will end up fair catching every returnable kick. Just eliminate kickoffs if you're trying to to be overly cautious with injuries.

[reyes the roof]

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In predictable NFL fashion, they bring back something they rightly got rid of, in the dumbest way possible.


As written, a team can only bring in a 3rd QB if the first two QBs are out due to injury. If the medical staff clears one of the first 2, they have to come in immediately and the 3rd QB is ineligible again until that guy is hurt.


All you're doing is incentivizing medical staffs to lie! And what's more, this wouldn't have even solved the San Francisco situation because Brock Purdy was cleared to play.


Just freaking do this:


"The Gameday Roster is increased to 47 players. Three of them must be QBs."

Done. Printed.

Instead in a few years they’ll change it so that the game day roster is 47 and you can fill it out however you want. Then teams will only carry 2 QBs and we’ll eventually get another situation like the championship game and they’ll bring back the emergency QB again, this time as the 48th spot on the game day roster.

[jeebs9]

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This new rule is absolutely atrocious. Fair catches on kickoffs to the 25?

So many players who ended up being great started their career making an impression on special teams. That is now a completely moot point.


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"NFL owners approved the resolution putting the ball on the 25-yard line following a fair catch on a kickoff, I’m told.

Special teams coordinators unanimously opposed the change, but it’s happening."



Since that's the case, I think most teams will end up fair catching every returnable kick. Just eliminate kickoffs if you're trying to to be overly cautious with injuries.

Is this a safety move? To make things safer? But overall there are less kick-off overall?


What's the point of kick off just place it at the 25 and get rid of kick off.

Good bye to the moments

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[mestevo]

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In predictable NFL fashion, they bring back something they rightly got rid of, in the dumbest way possible.


As written, a team can only bring in a 3rd QB if the first two QBs are out due to injury. If the medical staff clears one of the first 2, they have to come in immediately and the 3rd QB is ineligible again until that guy is hurt.


All you're doing is incentivizing medical staffs to lie! And what's more, this wouldn't have even solved the San Francisco situation because Brock Purdy was cleared to play.


Just freaking do this:


"The Gameday Roster is increased to 47 players. Three of them must be QBs."

Done. Printed.

Eh, feels like a good way to end your medical career by lying too, though. Never been more scrutiny by the players and the union over this kind of thing.

Edit: looks like the pitch was related to litigation and giving this a try for a year, dumping/tweaking if it doesn't work out.

[reyes the roof]

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"NFL owners approved the resolution putting the ball on the 25-yard line following a fair catch on a kickoff, I’m told.

Special teams coordinators unanimously opposed the change, but it’s happening."



Since that's the case, I think most teams will end up fair catching every returnable kick. Just eliminate kickoffs if you're trying to to be overly cautious with injuries.

I don’t see it having that great of an impact. Plenty of teams pass on the fair catch when the ball is 2-3 yards in to the end zone and bring it out so I don’t see teams starting to routinely call fair catches on balls not in the end zone unless your return team is terrible

[Kramer5150]

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This new rule is absolutely atrocious. Fair catches on kickoffs to the 25?

So many players who ended up being great started their career making an impression on special teams. That is now a completely moot point.


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It's getting harder and harder for me to watch this game anymore tbh....this is a game I grew up watching with my Grandpa and can remember watching the greats...Staubach, Bradshaw, Tarkenton and so on....so when I see all these rule changes it takes away what attracted me to the game as a youngin'.

Throw in the ridiculous pay these players get, and it just takes that "feeling" away for me.

The pro bowl? yeah now a freakin' flag football game....sooo many great plays from great players are now (to me) a thing of the past...thanks to the "golden boy" Brady, you so much as say nasty word to a QB you get a 15 yarder...and whatever you do don't try and tackle one.

This latest rule about kickoffs is a complete joke, as has been mentioned a lot of these guys earn their way to the roster by way of special teams...hell would Terrell Davis been noticed if it wasn't for the hit he made on special teams?

[illwill10]

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I don’t see it having that great of an impact. Plenty of teams pass on the fair catch when the ball is 2-3 yards in to the end zone and bring it out so I don’t see teams starting to routinely call fair catches on balls not in the end zone unless your return team is terrible

For me(if kickoff is returnable), you're going to decide whether you want to guarantee the ball at the 25 or do you think you can get it to at least the 30 yard line. For me, unless it's a terrible kick, I'm taking the guaranteed yards honestly. You're saving time off the clock, avoiding injury, reducing potential chance of turnover. I rather miss out on a big return, then potentially start the drive at the 15-20 yard line(potentially further with penalty)

This along with the punt rule change, they're reducing the impact of special teams.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Kick Returns are, more or less, out of the game anyway. In 2002, the average team returned 4.3 kicks a game. Last year it was 1.9.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Eh, feels like a good way to end your medical career by lying too, though. Never been more scrutiny by the players and the union over this kind of thing.

Medicine is always full of judgment calls, and introducing incentives to slant that judgment for the sake of the team is a foolish idea. Just force teams to carry 3QBs if you don't want the spectacle of a halfback taking snaps. Otherwise, let teams manage their rosters how they want and suffer the consequences.

[mestevo]

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Medicine is always full of judgment calls, and introducing incentives to slant that judgment for the sake of the team is a foolish idea. Just force teams to carry 3QBs if you don't want the spectacle of a halfback taking snaps. Otherwise, let teams manage their rosters how they want and suffer the consequences.

Yeah, but all of that is the reason for independent medical professionals that answer to both the team and the union. 'Just let the team manage it' works for roster building, absolutely, but not medical decisions. Needs to be some level of transparency (at least between medical and labor) and accountability there.

Build a bad roster though and you get to deal with those dividends either way.

[slickdtc]

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Yeah, I trust the doctors 0% with some of the stuff we’ve seen over the years. I know the “eye test” doesn’t work for medical especially when we don’t have the information the doctors on the sidelines do, but that blue medical tent and other things they’ve introduced have seemingly become more of a farce then a real effort to reduce or minimize injury. It seems more that they want to show they’re trying then to actually try. I get it, it hurts their product by keeping players sidelined. It’s hard not to take what the NFL says with anything but a cynical point of view.

[reyes the roof]

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For me(if kickoff is returnable), you're going to decide whether you want to guarantee the ball at the 25 or do you think you can get it to at least the 30 yard line. For me, unless it's a terrible kick, I'm taking the guaranteed yards honestly. You're saving time off the clock, avoiding injury, reducing potential chance of turnover. I rather miss out on a big return, then potentially start the drive at the 15-20 yard line(potentially further with penalty)

This along with the punt rule change, they're reducing the impact of special teams.

I look at it the complete opposite. Unless the coverage team makes an extraordinary play you’re probably looking at a worst case scenario of starting around the 20. I’m willing to risk those five yards for an opportunity break off a big return. Granted the skill level of my returner will also be a factor